# Election Day \[Week\]\[Month\[s\]\] \[Year\] 2020 follow-along thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 3, 2020, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618 "2020-11-03T05:36:01Z")\
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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1442 "2020-11-04T15:31:05Z")

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> [@FlikTheBlue](#):
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> Maybe it’s just me being overly pessimistic about the results, but I think the issue is there are too many voters who will vote based on wanting to “trigger the libs” than on any policy positions their own candidate holds.

I think there are those, yes. But I think we often underestimate how many people vote based on who they think will be best for the economy. They’re willing to tolerate white supremacy and misogyny and all that shit as long as they have a job. I think there are large swaths of Trump supporters who don’t give a damn about liberals one way or the other and don’t understand why we have such animosity toward them.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1443 "2020-11-04T15:31:31Z")

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> [@urbanredneck2](#):
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> It’s part of the Equality Act

Which part specifically?

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**Author:** ![Wrenching\_Spanners](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ecb155/32.png) [@Wrenching\_Spanners](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wrenching_Spanners)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1444 "2020-11-04T15:32:24Z")

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I agree with that assessment. But the Democrats aren’t helping themselves out when a big chunk of that party is far left, and they’re the noisiest part of the party. Sure Biden and Hillary Clinton are centre-left. But a lot of Republican voters disagree with Bernie Sanders and the Green New Deal, and view that type of politics as core Democratic Party politics. And the Democrats can’t seem to get out the message of what their core politics actually are.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1445 "2020-11-04T15:33:19Z")

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> [@urbanredneck2](#):
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> But Trump hasnt done a single thing that would hurt her and she hasnt felt “hated” by Trump or any of his followers. She doesnt see Trump as the evil boogeyman the MSM paints him to be.

The fact that she believes this doesn’t mean it’s true.

Every American lost when Trump got elected. The difference is most of us know everyone lost and Trump supporters believe they won.

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**Author:** ![FlikTheBlue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fliktheblue/32/10972_2.png) [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1446 "2020-11-04T15:33:25Z")

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> [@Spice\_Weasel](#):
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> I think there are those, yes. But I think we often underestimate how many people vote based on who they think will be best for the economy. They’re willing to tolerate white supremacy and misogyny and all that shit as long as they have a job. I think there are large swaths of Trump supporters who don’t give a damn about liberals one way or the other and don’t understand why we have such animosity toward them.

I get that there are such people out there. But they have also drank the coolaid if they believe the party whose philosophy is steal from the middle class to give to the wealthy is the party that is best for the economy.

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**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1447 "2020-11-04T15:34:45Z")

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There is virtually no one in the Democratic Party that is actually far left politically.

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1448 "2020-11-04T15:35:14Z")

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Yes, they’re buying into a long - standing myth that Republicans are better for the economy than Democrats. I don’t know what it would take to change their perceptions.

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1449 "2020-11-04T15:35:34Z")

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Any news on the Senate? It looks like the Republicans will maintain control, which will mean no COVID bailout, no climate progress, no new federal judges, and fights over government shutdowns again.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1450 "2020-11-04T15:36:19Z")

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> [@Spice\_Weasel](#):
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> Yes, they’re buying into a long - standing myth that Republicans are better for the economy than Democrats. I don’t know what it would take to change their perceptions.-

And that the DOW = “The Economy”

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**Author:** ![FlikTheBlue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fliktheblue/32/10972_2.png) [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1451 "2020-11-04T15:36:50Z")

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> [@RitterSport](#):
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> Any news on the Senate? It looks like the Republicans will maintain control, which will mean no COVID bailout, no climate progress, no new federal judges, and fights over government shutdowns again.

It’ll probably be 52-48 Republican, assuming Michigan goes blue.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1452 "2020-11-04T15:37:25Z")

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> [@RitterSport](#):
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> Any news on the Senate? It looks like the Republicans will maintain control, which will mean no COVID bailout, no climate progress, no new federal judges, and fights over government shutdowns again.-

And no voting on anything the House sends over. It’s Obama II all over again.

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**Author:** ![Icarus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icarus/32/72_2.png) [@Icarus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icarus)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1453 "2020-11-04T15:37:25Z")

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> [@RitterSport](#):
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> Any news on the Senate? It looks like the Republicans will maintain control, which will mean no COVID bailout, no climate progress, no new federal judges, and fights over government shutdowns again.

Yeah, it sure looks like the predicted D pick-ups were “fake news” and Le McConnell will continue to reign. It is to weep.

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1454 "2020-11-04T15:37:53Z")

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> [@urbanredneck2](#):
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> But Trump hasnt done a single thing that would hurt her and she hasnt felt “hated” by Trump or any of his followers. She doesnt see Trump as the evil boogeyman the MSM paints him to be.

Has she missed Trump’s overt antagonism towards Hispanics?

- [‘It’s worse than ever’: how Latinos are changing their lives in Trump’s America](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/oct/06/latinos-trump-hate-crimes-el-paso)
- [Commentary: Trump administration’s hostility toward Hispanics makes us stronger](https://www.chicagotribune.com/opinion/commentary/ct-opinion-hispanics-latinos-trump-animosity-cepeda-20190814-i2mb46o2pjdyjcbwvckfjmqupi-story.html)
- [Donald Trump kicked TV’s most influential Latino newsman out of a press conference](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/08/25/and-then-donald-trump-kicked-tvs-most-influential-latino-newsman-out-of-a-press-conference/)
- [‘Drug dealers, criminals, rapists’: What Trump thinks of Mexicans](https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us-canada-37230916)

(She may not be Mexican but does anyone here think MAGA-types and Trump will be careful to make a distinction?)

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1455 "2020-11-04T15:39:24Z")

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> [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
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> Has she missed Trump’s overt antagonism towards Hispanics?
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> - [‘It’s worse than ever’: how Latinos are changing their lives in Trump’s America](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/oct/06/latinos-trump-hate-crimes-el-paso)
> - [Commentary: Trump administration’s hostility toward Hispanics makes us stronger](https://www.chicagotribune.com/opinion/commentary/ct-opinion-hispanics-latinos-trump-animosity-cepeda-20190814-i2mb46o2pjdyjcbwvckfjmqupi-story.html)
> - [Donald Trump kicked TV’s most influential Latino newsman out of a press conference](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/08/25/and-then-donald-trump-kicked-tvs-most-influential-latino-newsman-out-of-a-press-conference/)
> - [‘Drug dealers, criminals, rapists’: What Trump thinks of Mexicans](https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us-canada-37230916)
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> (She may not be Mexican but does anyone here think MAGA-types and Trump will be carful to make a distinction?)-

Apparently, yes. One-issue voters only see their One Issue. She doesn’t want to skate in roller derby against a big-muscled former guy. Nothing else matters, I guess.

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**Author:** ![Wrenching\_Spanners](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ecb155/32.png) [@Wrenching\_Spanners](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wrenching_Spanners)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1456 "2020-11-04T15:40:09Z")

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> [@BeepKillBeep](#):
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> There is virtually no one in the Democratic Party that is actually far left politically.

Elizabeth Warren, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, about half of Slate writers and something like a third of this message board. And a significant chunk of my US Facebook friends.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1457 "2020-11-04T15:40:09Z")

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NM. Wrong thread.

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1458 "2020-11-04T15:40:40Z")

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> [@urbanredneck2](#):
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> She doesnt see Trump as the evil boogeyman the MSM paints him to be.

This is right up there on the list of cringe-worthy sentiments _constantly_ repeated.

The overwhelming majority of things that make DJT repellent to liberals are:

- what we have seen him say – words coming _directly out of his mouth, on camera,_ and
- statements he has directly made, on camera, about _things that he has done_ …

**without** the filter of the MSM.

This is one readily discernible and painfully distressing piece of the gish gallop storm that comes at us every day.

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**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1459 "2020-11-04T15:40:52Z")

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I don’t believe that, at all. In fact, Id go so far as to say that ALL of those listed would have won, easily.

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**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1460 "2020-11-04T15:41:27Z")

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> [@Wrenching\_Spanners](#):
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> …the Democrats can’t seem to get out the message of what their core politics actually are.

Part of the reason for that is because attack politics and, especially in the case of trump, blatant lying about the Democratic party, sadly seems to be effective. So how do Democrats fight back-- get just as dirty and spread their own blatant falsehoods? I don’t think that would work even if the Democratic side resorted to it.

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1461 "2020-11-04T15:43:22Z")

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How do you define the “far left”?

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