# Election Day \[Week\]\[Month\[s\]\] \[Year\] 2020 follow-along thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 3, 2020, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618 "2020-11-03T05:36:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 81
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1602 "2020-11-04T17:57:21Z")
A recount will happen in Wisconsin, but that said, Biden has won it by 30,000, and in 2016, the recount changed the result by only just over a hundred votes. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1603 "2020-11-04T17:58:36Z")
In more positive news, Kanye West has officially conceded. ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1604 "2020-11-04T17:58:52Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > A recount will happen in Wisconsin, but that said, Biden has won it by 30,000, and in 2016, the recount changed the result by only just over a hundred votes. 383 votes, it was reported earlier today. (ETA, CNN or FOX, can’t recall. I switch back and forth) ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1605 "2020-11-04T17:59:58Z")
AP via NPR has not called Wisconsin. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1606 "2020-11-04T18:00:03Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > In more positive news, Kanye West has officially conceded. More humorous news anyway, and I’ll take it! ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1607 "2020-11-04T18:01:11Z")
> [@Pardel-Lux](#): > > And the Spanish Vox and the French Front National being more liberal than Trump 2016 is… hard to swallow. Both around 0.5 in an index that ranges from 0 to 1? _And_ more liberal than Trump? Come on… > That chart is in need of serious recalibration. The note for “illiberalism” says that it is measuring commitment to the democratic process. I don’t know if those two parties are more authoritarian in that sense. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1608 "2020-11-04T18:01:13Z")
By my back-of-the-napkin calculations Biden needs to get 58.5% of the outstanding votes in PA to win. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1609 "2020-11-04T18:02:40Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > In more positive news, Kanye West has officially conceded. Spotted on Facebook: “Election news update: early polling indicates that Kanye West and Jo Jorgenson are more or less splitting the coveted Was About To Vote When Someone Bumped Into Me demographic. More on this as it develops…” ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1610 "2020-11-04T18:02:53Z")
The race wasn’t particularly close. Biden got a lot more votes, regardless of what happens from here. ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1611 "2020-11-04T18:04:52Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > By my back-of-the-napkin calculations Biden needs to get 58.5% of the outstanding votes in PA to win. Yeah, I think it is possible. The problem with napkin-math though is that the number of outstanding votes is not quite nailed down. I’ve heard “millions”, the suspiciously precise “1.4 million”, “well over 1 million”, etc - I’m not sure I fully trust anybody to have a good idea at this point. ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1612 "2020-11-04T18:05:13Z")
Possible tangent, but … how were all the polls so wrong (again)? Trump easily won states that were called toss-ups (FL, TX, IA) and may yet win states that were polling as clear Biden wins (PA, AZ, NV). Or is it actual, as-yet-unexplained as proposed by @Little_Nemo and others? ---
**Author:** ![squidfood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a87d85/32.png) [@squidfood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squidfood)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1613 "2020-11-04T18:05:50Z")
> [@cuauhtemoc](#): > > [This eight-hour old tweet](https://twitter.com/BrianaWhitney/status/1323921138909470730) says the in-person vote from Maricopa county is all in, AZ still has hundreds of thousands of early votes to count, and that we shouldn’t expect to hear any results from them until around 7 this evening. The Fox News analyst defending the Fox call ([Source](https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/524392-arizona-governor-says-too-early-to-call-trump-biden-race)): > Arnon Mishkin, the director of the Fox News Decision Desk, told viewers that “it’s been clear for a while that the former vice president is in the lead in Arizona and was most likely to win the state.” > > “Yes, there are some outstanding votes in Arizona,” Mishkin said. “Most of them are coming from Maricopa, where Biden is currently in a very strong position. And many of them are mail-in votes where we know from our Fox News voter analysis Biden has an advantage.” > > He added that the president will likely win 44 percent of the outstanding vote when he needs at least 61 percent. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1614 "2020-11-04T18:06:39Z")
Granted. I am using the numbers on the NYTimes page. No reason to think they are an authority on it but I would guess they are close(ish). About as reliable as you and I are likely to find. > **[Presidential Election Results: Biden Wins (Published 2020)](https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/11/03/us/elections/results-president.html)** > > Joseph R. Biden Jr. was elected the 46th president of the United States. See full results and maps from the 2020 presidential election. ---
**Author:** ![TheCuse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thecuse/32/2854_2.png) [@TheCuse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheCuse)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1615 "2020-11-04T18:08:51Z")
> [@Akaj](#): > > Possible tangent, but … how were all the polls so wrong (again)? Trump easily won states that were called toss-ups (FL, TX, IA) and may yet win states that were polling as clear Biden wins (PA, AZ, NV). > > Or is it actual, as-yet-unexplained as proposed by @Little_Nemo and others? The different news organizations have been explaining why the polls were so wrong. I have zero faith in Little\_Nemo’s conspiracy theory ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1616 "2020-11-04T18:08:58Z")
I am curious at what seems to be an abundance of unusually close races. I am no statistician but that seems unusual. Are so many states really so evenly split that they are coming down to a percent or two difference? I’m not ready for the tin-hat conspiracy theories yet but I can feel them percolating. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1617 "2020-11-04T18:13:22Z")
> [@TheCuse](#): > > The different news organizations have been explaining why the polls were so wrong. Why were they so wrong? (I haven’t seen those stories yet) ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1618 "2020-11-04T18:13:53Z")
> [@ISiddiqui](#): > > Pence could sue as Trump has no legal right to fire another elected official. Only if Mother lets him. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1619 "2020-11-04T18:13:59Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > I am pretty sure Trump wins PA. The number of remaining votes isn’t enough for Biden to catch up, based on the NYT’s numbers. The NYT is still bullish on Biden but the numbers make no sense to me. I’m starting to lean your way. There is suspicion that the NYT is significantly overestimating the number of remaining ballot in Philadelphia. [Last I saw](https://twitter.com/dhopkins1776/status/1324034514704805888), NYT was estimating over 800K ballots total, but city commissioners are saying there will be 670K. ---
**Author:** ![TheCuse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thecuse/32/2854_2.png) [@TheCuse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheCuse)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1620 "2020-11-04T18:14:24Z")
Here’s one article from USA Today: > **[Polls showed Biden had a substantial lead. Why didn't Americans wake up to a...](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/11/04/polls-biden-had-lead-over-trump-election-results-unclear-wednesday/6158248002/)** > > Election polls showed Joe Biden had a national lead over Donald Trump. So are the polls wrong? It's not that simple. ---
**Author:** ![yarblek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/71e660/32.png) [@yarblek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yarblek)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1621 "2020-11-04T18:15:04Z")
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