# Election Day \[Week\]\[Month\[s\]\] \[Year\] 2020 follow-along thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 3, 2020, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618 "2020-11-03T05:36:01Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Lamoral](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lamoral/32/16078_2.png) [@Lamoral](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamoral)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1742 "2020-11-04T20:35:23Z")

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Correct. I didn’t say “these things are God’s truth.” I said “they need to shut up about these things if they want to win.” Don’t they want to win?

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1743 "2020-11-04T20:35:44Z")

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> [@Lamoral](#):
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> Oh my God. You think America is the only polluter in the world? That Russia, China, India, all these huge countries burning coal and gas, don’t matter and that it’s ALL on America’s shoulders to ensure that Antarctica doesn’t melt? Look, I don’t WANT that to happen either, and I want climate change to be addressed because it IS a real thing.

I’ve gone on record as not wanting to unilaterally reduce carbon which would gain us nothing and cost us a lot. But Trump pulled out of the Paris agreement was just that, an agreement without binding power or a goal-setting committee. It cost us nothing to stay. Leaving was just performance art to try to impress upon people how much he didn’t believe climate change was real.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1744 "2020-11-04T20:35:57Z")

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My response would be to present them with my flexible pre-payment options. ‘Tssssss, sorry, but with your credit record… including defaults in El Paso, Florida, and more, we’re gonna need the $2.3 million upfront.’

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**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1745 "2020-11-04T20:36:28Z")

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I tried to stay up, but when there was no winner by midnight, I slept, worried that Steve Kornacki should take a nap at least. Still wondering. The country is divided.

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**Author:** ![tingbudong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tingbudong/32/520_2.png) [@tingbudong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tingbudong)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1746 "2020-11-04T20:36:50Z")

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I hear ya…just want to see a fucking win ☹

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**Author:** ![Lamoral](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lamoral/32/16078_2.png) [@Lamoral](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamoral)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1747 "2020-11-04T20:37:04Z")

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Someone before asked “maybe we need to take a long hard look at the Democratic policies that are turning people off”, and I was just trying to do that. The flurry of responses apparently demonstrates, at least in this small sample size, that people don’t want to do that. They just want to rage and rage against the evil Trumpers.

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1748 "2020-11-04T20:38:47Z")

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Faithless elector would be very on brand for this shitty year.

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**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1749 "2020-11-04T20:39:00Z")

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The AP has called Wisconsin for Biden. Trump demands a recount.

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**Author:** ![Lamoral](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lamoral/32/16078_2.png) [@Lamoral](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamoral)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1750 "2020-11-04T20:39:14Z")

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For the record: I am, at this point, CAUTIOUSLY OPTIMISTIC about Biden’s chance of pulling a win out of this. I’m not feeling as doom-and-gloom as I was last night. However, it’s clear to me that even if he wins, the “blue wall” is in a dilapidated state and just barely held together. It needs to be reinforced and renovated to the point where it is unquestionably strong.

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1751 "2020-11-04T20:39:46Z")

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A FB post I thought summed things up nicely: [Mike Selinker - I see a lot of people saying "How can it... | Facebook](https://www.facebook.com/704687308/posts/10157908436907309/)

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1752 "2020-11-04T20:40:00Z")

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I’m somewhat more optimistic that Biden pulls out a win than I am that he actually gets inaugurated though.

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**Author:** ![Esprise\_Me](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprise_me/32/2947_2.png) [@Esprise\_Me](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprise_Me)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1753 "2020-11-04T20:45:47Z")

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> [@Kron](#):
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> Surely California must be an empty hellhole at this point, considering how long I’ve heard right-wingers trot this tired bullshit out.

As a Californian who’s not leaving, I only wish repeating it would make it come true. I’d give a kidney to move just 10% of these idiots off the 101 and onto some highway in Arizona instead.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1754 "2020-11-04T20:46:50Z")

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As he takes 3 of the 4 in Maine, that is correct.

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**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1755 "2020-11-04T20:48:10Z")

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I don’t believe that the sort of brainwashed morons who do not believe in climate change will ever vote Democratic, so there’s no point in courting them.

Dems should shut up about gun control. Of course, the frothing dipshits who are single-issue about that will _also_ never vote Democratic so it’s dumb to suggest we court them, but honestly civilian guns aren’t today’s fight.

This is the first I’ve heard the schools are a pivotal issue. However I still think that we should fund public eduaction and support our children, so that makes me a flaming liberal maybe?

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**Author:** ![DMC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dmc/32/18049_2.png) [@DMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMC)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1756 "2020-11-04T20:48:24Z")

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I really wish Pennsylvania would finish its in-person voting counts.

Currently, Biden is behind by a little less than 400K. Based on mail-in ratios, he should gain (net) 606K votes from the remaining mail-in ballots (837K for him vs. 230K for Trump). While that would more than make up the difference, the majority of the counties remaining for in-person voting are typically red. Most of them are tiny, but Erie and York could cause some issues. With that said, big-assed, Biden-preferring Philadelphia county is also not done. I think the final tally for mail-in ballots will be around 2.1 million for Biden and 575K for Trump. I’m not feeling motivated enough to attempt to coax the in-person numbers out of the 9 counties that have yet to report anything and that are expected to be red, but my initial hunch is that Biden will end up taking the state narrowly.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1757 "2020-11-04T20:49:32Z")

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[The current state of Michigan’s Senate race](https://apps.npr.org/elections20-interactive/?#/states/MI/S): Essentially tied.

With 98% reporting, Peters is up by just under 6,000 votes. Counties still to report some votes: Wayne (Detroit) 6% unreported, Kent (Grand Rapids) 16% unreported, Genessee (Flint) 22% unreported. So I do cautiously expect Peters’ lead to grow a bit.

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1758 "2020-11-04T20:49:32Z")

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> [@begbert2](#):
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> This is the first I’ve heard the schools are a pivotal issue. However I still think that we should fund public eduaction and support our children, so that makes me a flaming liberal maybe?

If anything, school vouchers is something that Republicans run on, so I don’t know what that’s doing on the list.

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**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1759 "2020-11-04T20:50:07Z")

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You have to keep in mind that if California sheds a tiny fraction of its population into a place like, say, Idaho, our population doubles. You may think you’re barely leaking, but to us poor shlubs in “our votes matter more than yours” country it looks like a torrent.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1760 "2020-11-04T20:51:19Z")

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**Michigan** is 99% reported and shows Biden up by 61,000.

We’re probably stuck waiting on Nevada until tomorrow to decide this unless Georgia or N. Carolina surprise me a flip to Biden.

**The Georgia** lead is shrinking, so maybe, just maybe biden will take it.

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**Author:** ![Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.winston_oboogie/32/2945_2.png) [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Winston_OBoogie)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1761 "2020-11-04T20:51:56Z")

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> [@Lamoral](#):
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> You have no understanding of American culture if you think this would ever fly.

I’m an old fart. I remember when this was a reality. You scratch my back, I scratch yours. All changed in the 90s, when the Pubes realized that if they had the majority, they didn’t need to deal, they could just pass anything they want.

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