# Election Day \[Week\]\[Month\[s\]\] \[Year\] 2020 follow-along thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 3, 2020, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618 "2020-11-03T05:36:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 90
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1782 "2020-11-04T21:07:37Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > Where did Trump’s extra vote come from? Probably a Maine district. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1783 "2020-11-04T21:07:42Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > Where did Trump’s extra vote come from? One of the Maine delegates (Maine and Nebraska divide up some of their electors by congressional district). ---
**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1784 "2020-11-04T21:08:53Z")
> [@MaxTheVool](#): > > Something I’m someone shocked hasn’t been happening (knock on wood) is “Trump trains” surrounding wherever it is in PA that they’re counting the votes and threatening violence. I hope they have a TON of security. Get ready. Some crazy tweets just flying around that Trump is about to declare victory in PA and tell them to stop counting. Trump is about to speak in Philadelphia. ---
**Author:** ![Lantern2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lantern2/32/3010_2.png) [@Lantern2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lantern2)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1785 "2020-11-04T21:08:57Z")
I am surprised MI hasn’t been called for Biden. It looks over. I think the trends in PA are looking good too. Biden is now down by under 6%. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1786 "2020-11-04T21:14:23Z")
Are those “outcomes” from 538 or your guess? ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1787 "2020-11-04T21:17:20Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > Probably a Maine district. > [@kenobi\_65](#): > > One of the Maine delegates (Maine and Nebraska divide up some of their electors by congressional district). Okay, thanks. I don’t really understand this Electoral College thing, but thanks for the answer. ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1788 "2020-11-04T21:18:19Z")
CNN calls Michigan for Biden. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1789 "2020-11-04T21:19:08Z")
Assuming Biden makes it to 270, as seems to be trending, have there been any other Presidential elections where the winner got exactly the number of EC votes needed? I’m not recalling any. ---
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1790 "2020-11-04T21:19:38Z")
> [@Lantern2](#): > > I am surprised MI hasn’t been called for Biden. CNN just did so. ---
**Author:** ![Lamoral](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lamoral/32/16078_2.png) [@Lamoral](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamoral)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1791 "2020-11-04T21:19:55Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > There is absolutely no shortage of information out there which will tell them that climate change is a real thing and should be taken seriously. Indeed, the vast majority of it tells that story. These people are willfully ignorant. > > What else do you want? I never said we need to convince them that climate change is real. I said we need to convince SOME of them to vote for a Democratic president. Those are two totally different things. And one way that they could be convinced to vote for a Democratic president would be to NOT say that the oil industry needs to be shut down. ---
**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1792 "2020-11-04T21:22:33Z")
> [@Lamoral](#): > > I never said we need to convince them that climate change is real. I said we need to convince SOME of them to vote for a Democratic president. Those are two totally different things. And one way that they could be convinced to vote for a Democratic president would be to NOT say that the oil industry needs to be shut down. I don’t think they’re going to _forget_ which side the democrats are on. And if they do, I’m sure the republicans will remind them. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1793 "2020-11-04T21:22:51Z")
> [@Lamoral](#): > > And one way that they could be convinced to vote for a Democratic president would be to NOT say that the oil industry needs to be shut down. Good thing no candidate has said that. I am sure that is what they heard though. Same as defund the police became, “Liberals want no more police forces…not any…at all.” Again, there is no shortage of this being explained. They aren’t listening. ---
**Author:** ![Wrenching\_Spanners](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ecb155/32.png) [@Wrenching\_Spanners](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wrenching_Spanners)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1794 "2020-11-04T21:23:03Z")
So you don’t actually have a point that you’re willing to make an argument for, and you’re throwing out derogatory generalisations against someone who disagrees with you, and the cite you’re relying on. Nice. Just out of curiosity, what is your answer to these two questions: 1. Is the US basically centre-right in its overall political philosophy? 2. Should the leftmost Democratic Congresspeople be considered far-left in consideration of the overall US political philosophy? My answer to both those questions is yes, but it’s based on my observations and personal opinion. I readily accept that some people of this left-leaning board will disagree with me, but if they state that I’m factually wrong, I’d like them to provide me with the facts on why I’m wrong. And be prepared to defend their facts far better than you’ve defended your rather pathetic cite. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1795 "2020-11-04T21:24:16Z")
> [@Wrenching\_Spanners](#): > > So you don’t actually have a point that you’re willing to make an argument for, and you’re throwing out derogatory generalisations against someone who disagrees with you, and the cite you’re relying on. I’m saying take it to a different thread. This is not really the place for it. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1796 "2020-11-04T21:24:29Z")
Nate Cohn seems to think Biden has PA and it won’t be that close. [https://twitter.com/Nate\_Cohn/status/1324098639749406720](https://twitter.com/Nate_Cohn/status/1324098639749406720) “Neither Michigan nor Pennsylvania seem poised to be especially close, say under a point, once all of the votes are counted. Still a lot of uncertainty in Pennsylvania, but this doesn’t look like a looming recount situation” ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1797 "2020-11-04T21:24:52Z")
Excellent summary, I agree. ---
**Author:** ![MichaelEmouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/michaelemouse/32/101_2.png) [@MichaelEmouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MichaelEmouse)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1798 "2020-11-04T21:27:59Z")
Yeah, the election will probably come down to a few thousand votes in Nevada. Nevada has said they won’t announce further results until Thursday and a recount will likely be requested. I don’t know how long those takes. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1799 "2020-11-04T21:30:21Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > Okay, thanks. I don’t really understand this Electoral College thing, but thanks for the answer. Short version: states get a number of electors equal to their total number of members of Congress (Senators + Representatives). In most states, their electoral votes are “winner take all” – the candidate which wins the popular vote in that state receives all of the state’s electoral votes. But, in Maine and Nebraska, they do it a little differently. Two of each of those states’ electoral votes are determined by the statewide popular vote (representing the fact that each state has two U.S. Senators, who represent the entire state), but the remainder of the electoral votes in those states (three in Nebraska, two in Maine) are awarded to the candidate who wins the popular vote in each congressional district. This year, that’s led to splits in both states: in Maine, Biden won the statewide electors, but only one of the two districted electors, while, in Nebraska, Trump won the statewide electors, but only two of the three districted ones. ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1800 "2020-11-04T21:30:26Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > Nate Cohn seems to think Biden has PA and it won’t be that close. [https://twitter.com/Nate\_Cohn/status/1324098639749406720](https://twitter.com/Nate_Cohn/status/1324098639749406720) > > “Neither Michigan nor Pennsylvania seem poised to be especially close, say under a point, once all of the votes are counted. Still a lot of uncertainty in Pennsylvania, but this doesn’t look like a looming recount situation” Man I hope this is true. With Michigan just called for Biden (and AZ, which the AP has called but others stubbornly have not yet), by my count, PA puts Biden up at 284, so he wouldn’t even need Nevada. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1801 "2020-11-04T21:34:18Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > Short version … Thanks, that explains it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618.md?page=89) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618.md?page=91)