# Election Day \[Week\]\[Month\[s\]\] \[Year\] 2020 follow-along thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 3, 2020, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618 "2020-11-03T05:36:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 93
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1843 "2020-11-04T22:24:40Z")
Donald Trump is hereby claiming on twitter that Pennsylvania, Georgia and North Carolina electoral votes are his. Who knew it was that easy? ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1844 "2020-11-04T22:24:49Z")
Here’s the clip of that press conference. I forgot that Eric Trump was the kick-off speaker, I guess Daddy wanted someone experienced at losing. And I was partly wrong about the masks, the 4 speakers did not wear masks when they weren’t speaking. Everyone else was masked though, and I saw some of the biggest masks I’ve ever seen.😃 > **[Trump Campaign Claims Voter Fraud in Pennsylvania, Files Lawsuit](https://www.c-span.org/video/?477808-1%2Ftrump-campaign-claims-voter-fraud-pennsylvania-files-lawsuit)** > > Eric Trump, Rudy Giuliani, and other Trump campaign advisers held a press conference in Philadelphia as Pennsylvania officials continued counting votes in the 2020 election. While declaring victory in the state, and citing voter fraud, Mr. Giuliani... ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1845 "2020-11-04T22:27:51Z")
Damn, why didn’t Biden think of that? ---
**Author:** ![Folly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folly/32/3219_2.png) [@Folly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folly)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1846 "2020-11-04T22:28:26Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > Donald Trump is hereby claiming on twitter that Pennsylvania, Georgia and North Carolina electoral votes are his. Who knew it was that easy? He should have thrown Michigan and/or Nevada in there too since he’s going to need at least one of them… ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1847 "2020-11-04T22:34:09Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > Donald Trump is hereby claiming on twitter that Pennsylvania, Georgia and North Carolina electoral votes are his. Who knew it was that easy? Heh. Twitter has flagged about half the Trump Tweets of the past 24 hours as being disputed and/or misleading, including that one. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1848 "2020-11-04T22:35:24Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > Donald Trump is hereby claiming on twitter that Pennsylvania, Georgia and North Carolina electoral votes are his. Who knew it was that easy? Link: > Someone tell me that this isn’t Trump’s crossing the Rubicon moment. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1849 "2020-11-04T22:35:29Z")
Thank you **Folly** and **Jas09**. That was my original understanding, but I was reading an article that explicitly said ballots could be counted until Friday. It was either poorly written, or the reporter didn’t know the difference themselves. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1850 "2020-11-04T22:35:45Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > A rare laugh in the middle of a long long long horror movie. And I hate horror movies. Seriously, it was priceless. I _especially_ hate horror movies that are Priceless! ---
**Author:** ![Folly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folly/32/3219_2.png) [@Folly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folly)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1851 "2020-11-04T22:37:33Z")
> [@Folly](#): > > He should have thrown Michigan and/or Nevada in there too since he’s going to need at least one of them… Oh wait, I actually looked at the tweet and he does throw Michigan in at the end. And something ridiculous about secretly dumped ballots? ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1852 "2020-11-04T22:39:27Z")
> [@Folly](#): > > And something ridiculous about secretly dumped ballots? “ **Widely** reported” secretly dumped ballots. Why, he’s been reporting widely on it for weeks! ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1853 "2020-11-04T22:39:41Z")
The “hereby” is my favorite part of that declaration. I hereby declare that the only people who use the word “hereby” are trying to sound legally official about something that they don’t understand in the slightest. ---
**Author:** ![Folly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folly/32/3219_2.png) [@Folly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folly)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1854 "2020-11-04T22:41:23Z")
> [@TroutMan](#): > > “ **Widely** reported” secretly dumped ballots Not much of a secret then… ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1855 "2020-11-04T22:41:45Z")
> [@Folly](#): > > something ridiculous about secretly dumped ballots? Maybe misremembering those missing 300K which DeJoy refuses to look for? ---
**Author:** ![eschrodinger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschrodinger/32/122_2.png) [@eschrodinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschrodinger)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1856 "2020-11-04T22:41:58Z")
> [@TroutMan](#): > > [Portland got rid of all meth and other drug-related crimes yesterday.](https://ballotpedia.org/Oregon_Measure_110,_Drug_Decriminalization_and_Addiction_Treatment_Initiative_(2020)) Easy peasy. Let’s see a Republican mayor do _that_ . Decriminalized (meaning it’s a ticket, not a misdemeanor) possession of small amounts. Manufacturing and distributing are still crimes. > [@TroutMan](#): > > Does anyone know the specifics of the rule that allows counting ballots in PA until Friday? Is it that any ballot not counted by Friday is tossed out, or is it any ballot that doesn’t arrive by Friday? Meaning, if a ballot is received today and they can’t get to it by Friday, is it counted or not? Ballots postmarked by election day that come in by Nov. 6 will be counted, is my understanding. My understanding is that, by law, they are only supposed to count ballots that arrive by election day. The PA Supreme Court extended the deadline due to the present circumstances. The US Supreme Court let that ruling stand, for now, but hinted that they might look at it after the election. Based on my understanding of precedents, it would not be surprising if they overturned the extension by PA’s Supreme Court. PA voters were told to not chance it and get their ballots in by election day to be safe. The “late” ballots are being segregated. It remains to be seen how many will come in after Nov. 3, and before Nov. 6. As far as I know, states just have to certify their results (to be safe) by the safe harbor deadline of Dec. 8. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1857 "2020-11-04T22:45:24Z")
> [@eschrodinger](#): > > My understanding is that, by law, they are only supposed to count ballots that arrive by election day. Upon what do you base that understanding? Can you cite the law? ---
**Author:** ![eschrodinger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschrodinger/32/122_2.png) [@eschrodinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschrodinger)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1858 "2020-11-04T22:48:12Z")
My understanding of that is based on the fact that, as widely reported, the PA Supreme Court extended the deadline. By implication, there was a deadline that had to be extended. No, I don’t have a cite to the law at the moment. “Ballots must be delivered by 8pm on Election Day but the sooner the better.” From here: [https://www.votespa.com/Voting-in-PA/Pages/Mail-and-Absentee-Ballot.aspx](https://www.votespa.com/Voting-in-PA/Pages/Mail-and-Absentee-Ballot.aspx) ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1859 "2020-11-04T22:56:09Z")
OK, I found this: > Mail-in ballots in Pennsylvania have previously been due by the time polls close on Election Day. But the [court’s order](http://www.pacourts.us/assets/opinions/Supreme/out/J-96-2020mo%20-%20104548450113066639.pdf?cb=1) adds a three-day extension to receive ballots that are postmarked by 8 p.m. on Election Day. Ballots with a preelection postmark will now be counted as long as they are received by 5 p.m. on Nov. 6, three days after the polls close. It seems odd to me that ballots would have to be received by the time polls close on Election Day, as voters have no control over the Postal Service. If a voter mails a ballot in good faith before the polls close, then he or she should expect it to be delivered on time – but expectations are problematic when dealing with such a large logistics operation, especially when efforts were made to prevent delivery of mail. Here, ballots postmarked before the polls close are accepted up to 21 days after Election Day. ISTM that under the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment that PA voters should enjoy the same rights and privileges as voters in other states. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1860 "2020-11-04T22:56:30Z")
Ugh, I am dying just waiting for one more state to announce Biden has won it. Please! Nevada! Arizona! OR JUST PENNSYLVANIA!!! ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1861 "2020-11-04T22:56:54Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > Heh. Twitter has flagged about half the Trump Tweets of the past 24 hours as being disputed and/or misleading, including that one. What would happen if he suddenly stops Tweeting? Are any underlings standing by to check on his health? ---
**Author:** ![Hari\_Seldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hari_seldon/32/5173_2.png) [@Hari\_Seldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hari_Seldon)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1862 "2020-11-04T23:02:09Z")
> [@sweepkick](#): > > Kindly fuck off with your holier-than-thou bullshit. Trump was talking about imprisoning his political rivals since day-one. Moderating: Tone down such comments. No warning issued. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618.md?page=92) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618.md?page=94)