# Election Day \[Week\]\[Month\[s\]\] \[Year\] 2020 follow-along thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 3, 2020, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618 "2020-11-03T05:36:01Z")\
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**Author:** ![orcenio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/orcenio/32/1036_2.png) [@orcenio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/orcenio)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1903 "2020-11-04T23:59:51Z")

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Trump is toast, however Trumpianism is still +68 million strong. Small steps. Enjoy this battle win Dems.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1904 "2020-11-05T00:00:17Z")

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Biden ran in 1988, 2008 and 2020. Reagan ran as many times. 1968, 1976 and 1980.  
There could be others though.

On a related note, [Harold Stassen](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_Stassen) ran 9 times without a whiff of success.  
1944, 1948, 1952, 1964, 1968, 1980, 1984, 1988, and 1992

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**Author:** ![Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de053/32.png) [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackknifed_Juggernaut)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1905 "2020-11-05T00:00:22Z")

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Makes sense, as there was that large group of Republicans against Trump. But not good for Dems going forward.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1906 "2020-11-05T00:01:13Z")

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> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> > [@Lantern2](#):
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> > Why is Nevada so slow at counting. It may well be the tipping point state.
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> They had some precincts in the Las Vegas area stay open later than scheduled.
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> [Early results show Joe Biden leading Donald Trump in Nevada](https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-donald-trump-race-and-ethnicity-nevada-campaigns-662be69283ae6d819c23d9c1ef58360b)

Forget casinos, it’s like they don’t have any clocks in the whole town…

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**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1907 "2020-11-05T00:01:42Z")

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Minor question: does anyone know why CNN won’t update to 214 electoral college votes for Trump? They don’t seem to be counting the Maine one. It’s a little annoying as Washington Post and NYT have had him at 214 for quite a while now. Does CNN not believe it, or are they just slow?

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**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1908 "2020-11-05T00:02:56Z")

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> [@Icarus](#):
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> Oddly, to me anyway, ABC still doesn’t have AZ called. They do have WIS/MI for Biden, but not AZ?

Wisconsin vote-counting is basically done. MI is almost done and most of the remaining votes are coming from “blue counties” - Trump isn’t going to catch up there.

But there are several hundred thousand votes outstanding in AZ and while the conventional wisdom is that they will lean Biden just enough that he will hold his narrow lead, it’s not a hard certainty yet. Hence not everyone is willing to call the state. We should probably get an answer there by late tonight. Same with Georgia, I suspect.

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**Author:** ![Mike\_Mabes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mike_mabes/32/1782_2.png) [@Mike\_Mabes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mike_Mabes)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1909 "2020-11-05T00:04:33Z")

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Harold Stasson never won of course, but ran 12 times!

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**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1910 "2020-11-05T00:05:45Z")

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> [@Skypist](#):
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> Maybe come up with some catchy slogans to promote BETTER JOBS and “the other side” wants the US to remain dependent on oil from the Middle East and force our own people to work in the mines for slave wages etc whatever.

[The average manual wage worker on an oil rig is the US is $75k.](https://www.ziprecruiter.com/Salaries/Oil-Rig-Worker-Salary#:~:text=As%20of%20Oct%2028%2C%202020,%2Fweek%20or%20%246%2C293%2Fmonth.) Good luck convincing people that is slave wages or they will find another similar paying job with a GED. Its important to figure out how we’re going to transition away from oil and gas but you’ll never sell the people in the oil field their lives will be better when they leave.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1911 "2020-11-05T00:05:56Z")

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I’m pretty sure it was only 9 times.  
See above:

> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> On a related note, [Harold Stassen](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_Stassen) ran 9 times without a whiff of success.  
> 1944, 1948, 1952, 1964, 1968, 1980, 1984, 1988, and 1992

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**Author:** ![Boycott](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boycott/32/6741_2.png) [@Boycott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boycott)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1912 "2020-11-05T00:07:51Z")

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Nelson Rockerfeller had a few cracks didn’t he before ending up getting the gig as Gerald Ford’s vice president.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1913 "2020-11-05T00:08:08Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> Trumpists are starting to absolutely lose their shit, and Trump is egging them on. This could turn very ugly.

My wife’s crazy uncle(no, really) is posting about all the voter fraud that has been happening around the nation. People voting twice in various states, votes exceeding registered voter totals, etc.

I’m not saying Trump will lose, but the meltdown is certainly stirring up.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1914 "2020-11-05T00:08:43Z")

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> [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](#):
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> > [@Folly](#):
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> > > [@BobLibDem](#):
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> > > Not only a Biden win, but we have our Peters out in front as well.
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> > Phrasing!.
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> Intentional? When I first read it, I didn’t know what he meant. I’m still just guessing. Heh.

Intentional.

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**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1915 "2020-11-05T00:11:22Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> That said, I agree with you that there are some warning signs going forward. I think the Democrats need an identity based on economics for the working class, but they have to do that in a way that doesn’t come across as being the party that wipes someone’s ass every time he shits in his pants.

I swear to God, they should take the .oney they spent on this race, including utterly unwinnable Senate runs, and do something nice for everyone in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan. Maybe everyone can pick a gift from a catalog? Above ground pool? Big TV? Or, I dunno, fix the crumbling infrastructure in the rust belt? Put community gyms and pools everywhere?

We could just buy these motherfuckers for less than we are spending on total media buys and endless events.

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**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1916 "2020-11-05T00:11:48Z")

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If we’re counting [perennial candidates](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perennial_candidates_in_the_United_States) like Stassen who never won the Presidency, Eugene V. Debs had five presidential runs and Norman Thomas had six.

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**Author:** ![The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_stainless_steel_rat/32/5727_2.png) [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1917 "2020-11-05T00:15:50Z")

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> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> Biden ran in 1988, 2008 and 2020. Reagan ran as many times. 1968, 1976 and 1980.  
> There could be others though.
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> On a related note, [Harold Stassen](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_Stassen) ran 9 times without a whiff of success.  
> 1944, 1948, 1952, 1964, 1968, 1980, 1984, 1988, and 1992

Probably the record holder is Williams Jennings Bryan, who was nominated and ran for president Three times (1896, 1900, 1908) as the Democratic Party’s candidate (note, it was a different time and a very different Party). Bryan lost all three elections and is better known today for the Scopes “Monkey” trial.

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**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1918 "2020-11-05T00:18:16Z")

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> [@Akaj](#):
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> Possible tangent, but … how were all the polls so wrong (again)? Trump easily won states that were called toss-ups (FL, TX, IA) and may yet win states that were polling as clear Biden wins (PA, AZ, NV).

I guess that depends on where you’re looking. The election seems to be going very close to what was predicted on 538 with the exception of Florida (although well within the margin of error).

> **[2020 Election Forecast](https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-election-forecast/?cid=rrpromo)**
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> Latest forecast of the 2020 presidential election between President Donald Trump and Joe Biden by Nate Silver’s FiveThirtyEight

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**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1919 "2020-11-05T00:19:56Z")

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> [@tingbudong](#):
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> r/conservative over on Reddit is falling to pieces right now…

Yeah, FreeRepublic is losing their shit too, which I can only take as a good sign.

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**Author:** ![Mike\_Mabes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mike_mabes/32/1782_2.png) [@Mike\_Mabes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mike_Mabes)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1920 "2020-11-05T00:22:39Z")

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THat is what I first thought, one site had a comment saying a dozen but that is wrong

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**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1921 "2020-11-05T00:22:45Z")

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> [@Jas09](#):
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> Just to update on Nevada - they have decided to release more vote totals tonight. This is due to “a lot of interest in how the vote is going in Nevada”. No shit, Sherlock.

And now they have walked this back again and say they are NOT likely to release any more tonight. Good times.

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**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1922 "2020-11-05T00:23:38Z")

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I’m starting to feel a bit like Anton Chigurh from No Country For Old Men:

Call it. Call it. Call it, friendo. Call it.

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