# Election Day \[Week\]\[Month\[s\]\] \[Year\] 2020 follow-along thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 3, 2020, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618 "2020-11-03T05:36:01Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![sweepkick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@sweepkick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sweepkick)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1963 "2020-11-05T01:13:21Z")

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Trump just filed a lawsuit to stop the counting in Georgia.

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1964 "2020-11-05T01:13:47Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> > [@Jungian\_Camisole1](#):
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> > > [@Bullitt](#):
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> > > I’m getting ready to sing, ding dong the witch is dead.
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> > Can we watch his toes curl up and go under Dorothy’s house? -
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> The house refused to do the scene. So did the stunt double. And the computer seized up rather than do the CGI.

And when the director looked for him to do the scene, he was nowhere to be found. Someone said he was at his lawyer’s office…

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**Author:** ![drm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a88e57/32.png) [@drm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drm)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1965 "2020-11-05T01:16:39Z")

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> [@sweepkick](#):
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> Trump just filed a lawsuit to stop the counting in Georgia.

So he knows he lost, good to know. The ragin’ cajun was pretty confident this morning.

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**Author:** ![Jungian\_Camisole1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jungian_camisole1/32/3646_2.png) [@Jungian\_Camisole1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jungian_Camisole1)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1966 "2020-11-05T01:17:59Z")

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> [@Bullitt](#):
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> And when the director looked for him to do the scene, he was nowhere to be found. Someone said he was at his lawyer’s office…

[Actor’sFlourish] And, scene! [O/Actor’sFlourish].

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1967 "2020-11-05T01:18:12Z")

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As Joseph P Kennedy said to his son John, “I’m not paying for a landslide.”

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**Author:** ![Jungian\_Camisole1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jungian_camisole1/32/3646_2.png) [@Jungian\_Camisole1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jungian_Camisole1)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1968 "2020-11-05T01:19:11Z")

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[quote=“sweepkick, post:1963, topic:924618, full:true”]  
Trump just filed a lawsuit to stop the counting in Georgia.  
[/quote]!

He’s panicking. Good. Next stop - SDNY

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**Author:** ![sweepkick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@sweepkick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sweepkick)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1969 "2020-11-05T01:20:38Z")

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[quote=“Jungian\_Camisole1, post:1968, topic:924618, full:true”]

> [@sweepkick](#):
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> Trump just filed a lawsuit to stop the counting in Georgia.  
> [/quote]!
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> He’s panicking. Good. Next stop - SDNY

I truly hope they get that chance.

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**Author:** ![Dr.Strangelove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.strangelove/32/6613_2.png) [@Dr.Strangelove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Strangelove)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1970 "2020-11-05T01:23:11Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> As Joseph P Kennedy said to his son John, “I’m not paying for a landslide”

As much as I’d like a landslide, a 270:268 win is comforting in one way: it means you compromised the minimum possible amount to win. Like a business bidding just one dollar less than a competitor for a contract job. Finding out that you massively underbid is a bad thing in that respect.

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**Author:** ![MandaJo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac91a4/32.png) [@MandaJo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MandaJo)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1971 "2020-11-05T01:25:50Z")

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But if Biden takes Pennsylvania, GA, NV and AZ, he wins with 306, the number Trump won by. He makes Trump as big a loser as Clinton was.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1972 "2020-11-05T01:26:22Z")

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> [@don\_t\_ask](#):
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> I backed Biden yesterday when his price got out to $3.70 with the early counts. My bookmaker just send through notification that they have already paid out on Biden as the winner.

Ah, don’t tease me, bro! Don’t do that. Don’t give me hope!

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**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1973 "2020-11-05T01:27:09Z")

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> [@Jas09](#):
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> | Trump Margin | | Percent In | | Reduction Per Percent | |
> | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
> | 458915 | | 80 | | | |
> | 356423 | | 83 | | 34164 | |
> | 319876 | | 84 | | 34759.75 | |
> | 292412 | | 85 | | 33300.6 | |
> | 265676 | | 86 | | 32206.5 | |

I’m seeing 88% and a shade under 200k difference - so 30k per percent seems to be holding.

What is their pace? 2% an hour? At that pace, crossover could occur in 3.5 hrs…

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1974 "2020-11-05T01:28:28Z")

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[quote=“Jungian\_Camisole1, post:1968, topic:924618, full:true”]

> [@sweepkick](#):
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> Trump just filed a lawsuit to stop the counting in Georgia.  
> [/quote]!
> 
> He’s panicking. Good. Next stop - SDNY

Yes he’s panicking, but be careful. A wounded, dying animal can be dangerous.

With his values and ideals I’d be very watchful for the crap he is going to be pulling these next days and weeks, and also the crap he’ll likely be pulling during his lame duck days.

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**Author:** ![Boycott](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boycott/32/6741_2.png) [@Boycott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boycott)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1975 "2020-11-05T01:31:41Z")

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CNN still haven’t called Arizona for Biden. Fox called Arizona for Biden on election night and doubled down on it when the Trump campaign urged for a retraction.

> **[Fox News doubles down on calling Arizona for Biden – video](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2020/nov/04/fox-news-doubles-down-on-calling-arizona-for-biden-video)**
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> 'I'm sorry, the president is not going to be able to take over and win enough votes to eliminate that seven-point lead that the former vice president has.'

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**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1976 "2020-11-05T01:32:52Z")

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> [@Dinsdale](#):
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> ’m seeing 88% and a shade under 200k difference

And they just went BACKWARDS - down to 87%. WTF?!

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**Author:** ![Mike\_Mabes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mike_mabes/32/1782_2.png) [@Mike\_Mabes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mike_Mabes)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1977 "2020-11-05T01:34:33Z")

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from CNN live updates

## Trump has questioned legal efforts in calls with allies

From CNN’s Kevin Liptak

President Trump offered less-than-enthusiastic endorsement of his team’s legal strategy in phone calls with some of his allies on Wednesday, sounding resigned to the plan falling short and questioning why his team hadn’t successfully challenged voting rules before the election even as he remained willing to see it through.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1978 "2020-11-05T01:36:30Z")

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> [@urbanredneck2](#):
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> On my Facebook I’m friends with a woman from Texas who is also part latino and she voted Trump. Why? Biden said he will sign laws that will require any womens athletics programs to accept any man who identifies as a woman. She hates this idea as do most female athletes and she happens to do womens roller derby.

???

Is _men’s_ roller derby even a thing?

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**Author:** ![sweepkick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@sweepkick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sweepkick)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1979 "2020-11-05T01:36:38Z")

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[quote=“Bullitt, post:1974, topic:924618, full:true”]

> [@Jungian\_Camisole1](#):
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> > [@sweepkick](#):
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> > Trump just filed a lawsuit to stop the counting in Georgia.  
> > [/quote]!
> > 
> > He’s panicking. Good. Next stop - SDNY
> 
> Yes he’s panicking, but be careful. A wounded, dying animal can be dangerous.
> 
> With his values and ideals I’d be very watchful for the crap he is going to be pulling these next days and weeks, and also the crap he’ll likely be pulling during his lame duck days.

Indeed. My hope is that Trump is so preoccupied with election lawsuits in the coming weeks that he wouldn’t take the time to crater the country. But I guess he does have staff/administration that could take care of that for him.

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**Author:** ![bengangmo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@bengangmo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bengangmo)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1980 "2020-11-05T01:36:52Z")

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> [@](#):
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> If the Russians were going to steal votes, wouldn’t they steal enough to, you know, win the election for Trump? (Although I suppose making it close stirs up more trouble.)

Indulging my inner conspiricist

- they thought they were but there was a bigger swing towards Biden than they “allowed” (if you were cheating, wouldn’t you want it close and less obvious than a North Korea level 98%)
- whatever the cheating process involved - there were logistical limits on how much they could adjust the results (i.e they couldn’t tamper with all the machines or the cheating method they did limited them in some way)
- Mail in and early voting overwhelmed the methodology they were using

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**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1981 "2020-11-05T01:38:07Z")

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> **[Arizona AG investigates whether Sharpie users' ballots were rejected in...](https://www.foxnews.com/politics/arizona-ag-investigating-complaints-from-maricopa-county-voters-over-usage-of-sharpies-on-ballots)**
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> The Republican Attorney General's Office in Arizona is investigating complaints from some Maricopa County voters that their ballots may have been discarded because they were filled out with Sharpie permanent markers.

Answer: No, not likely.

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**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/1982 "2020-11-05T01:42:43Z")

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> [@Dinsdale](#):
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> What is their pace? 2% an hour? At that pace, crossover could occur in 3.5 hrs…

Something like that. I think I calculated around midnight CT a few hours ago. But it could be earlier or later. I presume that networks would be reasonably quick to call once Biden takes the lead.

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