# Election Wiki leaks Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [October 10, 2016, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-wiki-leaks-thread/768160 "2016-10-10T17:21:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 8:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-wiki-leaks-thread/768160/101 "2016-10-17T08:23:46Z")
If a “state party” really did anything, I bet it’s more along the lines of Ecuador getting tired of the freeloader. ---
**Author:** ![coremelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@coremelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coremelt)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 8:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-wiki-leaks-thread/768160/102 "2016-10-17T08:53:45Z")
> [@Lord\_Feldon](#): > > There was a rumor circulating for several hours that the embassy was raided and Assange was either “taken” or dead, but it seems pretty unlikely that such an operation would go down with _nobody_ actually noticing. It’s not some lonely rural outpost. You can’t fart in central London without someone tweeting a picture of it. A raid on the Embassy happening in the UK is pretty much unthinkable anyway. Every single country with a UK embassy (eg all of them) would complain loudly and probably withdraw their ambassadors to the UK. Even in China they respect the sanctity of embassies, if a dissident is in a foreign embassy, they can put extreme pressure on the country to hand them over, but I’ve never heard of them physically raiding one. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-wiki-leaks-thread/768160/103 "2016-10-17T12:28:39Z")
I’m thinking the powers that be @ Ecuador is not happy to now be harboring a man who has targeted, personally and viciously, the future President of the United States. They probably thought Assange was worth it when he was (seemingly) tossing random spit balls at people, but now he has targeted a person who has the ability, with little effort of her own, to make Ecuador’s life hell. So… yeah. State agency, I can believe. Or, you know, he didn’t pay his BBC tax. (J/k!) ---
**Author:** ![coremelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@coremelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coremelt)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-wiki-leaks-thread/768160/104 "2016-10-17T12:57:18Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > They probably thought Assange was worth it when he was (seemingly) tossing random spit balls at people, but now he has targeted a person who has the ability, with little effort of her own, to make Ecuador’s life hell. > > So… yeah. State agency, I can believe. > (J/k!) Hmm, yeah maybe it’s got to the point where Ecuador is not ready to push him out the door to arrest but they’d just rather he stop making trouble. Or in other words they changed the wifi password on him. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-wiki-leaks-thread/768160/105 "2016-10-17T17:00:33Z")
What is Wikileaks anyway? It seems to be some rapist hiding in an embassy in cahoots with the GRU. Anybody know any differently? ---
**Author:** ![coremelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@coremelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coremelt)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-wiki-leaks-thread/768160/106 "2016-10-17T17:11:09Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > What is Wikileaks anyway? It seems to be some rapist hiding in an embassy in cahoots with the GRU. Anybody know any differently? I know you joke, but I think they did some important work prior up to 2011 exposing abuses in Iraq and Afghanistan. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-wiki-leaks-thread/768160/107 "2016-10-17T17:31:11Z")
> [@coremelt](#): > > I know you joke, but I think they did some important work prior up to 2011 exposing abuses in Iraq and Afghanistan. And once he made his distaste for Clinton so public, he suddenly became a Putin patsy, Trump employee, rapist email counterfeiter. So darn strange how much he changed. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-wiki-leaks-thread/768160/108 "2016-10-17T17:51:05Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > And once he made his distaste for Clinton so public, he suddenly became a Putin patsy, Trump employee, rapist email counterfeiter. So darn strange how much he changed. I dislike my neighbor three doors down, but I’m not going to make a habit of fencing items I know thieves have stolen from him. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-wiki-leaks-thread/768160/109 "2016-10-17T17:56:27Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > I dislike my neighbor three doors down, but I’m not going to make a habit of fencing items I know thieves have stolen from him. Good for you. So if you were running wikileaks, you’d only accept leaks from those of the finest character. Or maybe you’d only publish leaks that weren’t “stolen”. Or you wouldn’t leak things about people you dislike. Or something. What is your little analogy supposed to be telling me exactly? ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-wiki-leaks-thread/768160/110 "2016-10-17T17:59:20Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > And once he made his distaste for Clinton so public, he suddenly became a Putin patsy, Trump employee, rapist email counterfeiter. So darn strange how much he changed. Well, he’s been an accused rapist for some time now. He’s not hiding out in the embassy because he likes the coffee. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-wiki-leaks-thread/768160/111 "2016-10-17T18:00:57Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > Good for you. So if you were running wikileaks, you’d only accept leaks from those of the finest character. Or maybe you’d only publish leaks that weren’t “stolen”. Or you wouldn’t leak things about people you dislike. Or something. What is your little analogy supposed to be telling me exactly? That I wouldn’t be running Wiki Leaks, because: 1. The ends just don’t justify the means and 2. It’s too damn easy to turn it into a personal weapon. My question to you is do you care how information you find useful is acquired? ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-wiki-leaks-thread/768160/112 "2016-10-17T18:08:56Z")
> [@Jophiel](#): > > Well, he’s been an accused rapist for some time now. He’s not hiding out in the embassy because he likes the coffee. And I remember a lot of murmurs from the left that the rape allegations were all a set up to punish Wikileaks’ impudence. Don’t hear that quite so much anymore. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-wiki-leaks-thread/768160/113 "2016-10-17T18:15:56Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > And I remember a lot of murmurs from the left that the rape allegations were all a set up to punish Wikileaks’ impudence. Don’t hear that quite so much anymore. You didn’t hear it from me. I’ll be sure to let the nebulous left know your thoughts though :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![coremelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@coremelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coremelt)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-wiki-leaks-thread/768160/114 "2016-10-17T18:25:18Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > And once he made his distaste for Clinton so public, he suddenly became a Putin patsy, Trump employee, rapist email counterfeiter. So darn strange how much he changed. Nope not suddenly at all. He’s been on a downward spiral since 2011. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-wiki-leaks-thread/768160/115 "2016-10-17T18:35:08Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > What is Wikileaks anyway? It seems to be some rapist hiding in an embassy in cahoots with the GRU. Anybody know any differently? > [@coremelt](#): > > I know you joke, but I think they did some important work prior up to 2011 exposing abuses in Iraq and Afghanistan. Still doesn’t really answer the question, though. I’m wondering who Wikileaks is _today_. Looking at Wikipedia, any information about their financing and organization ends around 2011, 2012, leaving the past 4 years a bit of a blank. > **[WikiLeaks](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WikiLeaks)** > > WikiLeaks (/ˈwɪkiliːks/) is a non-profit media organisation and publisher of leaked documents. It is funded by donations and media partnerships. It has published classified documents and other media provided by anonymous sources. It was founded in 2006 by Julian Assange, an Australian editor, publisher, and activist. Since September 2018, Kristinn Hrafnsson has served as its editor-in-chief. Its website states that it has released more than ten million documents and associated WikiLeaks has r... ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-wiki-leaks-thread/768160/116 "2016-10-17T20:40:23Z")
The Campaign is trying to anticipate what damaging material might come from Wiki leaks. The campaign has the original emails and can verify content coming from Wiki leaks. There should be off site backups too that preserve the email record. I’m pretty sure nothing leaked has been challenged, yet. Any faked emails will be discovered and discredited quickly. Hillary won’t forget this anytime soon. Imho I think it will effect her Presidency’s relationship with Russia. [http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/hillary-clinton-trump-wikileaks-229864#ixzz4NM9gNqrX](http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/hillary-clinton-trump-wikileaks-229864#ixzz4NM9gNqrX) > [@](#): > > But, mostly, in the words of one longtime aide, “she’s pissed.” > > And she is ever more determined to see that the foreign culprits her campaign is fingering are rooted out and their connections to Trump’s circle, especially dark-arts specialist Roger Stone, whom Clinton reviles, be publicly exposed. (Trump and Stone have vehemently denied any connection to WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, the Russians or the hacking, but current and former law enforcement and intelligence officials say those links will almost certainly be examined.) A smart move. Campaign is prepared for whatever Wiki leaks publishes. > [@](#): > > The campaign has scoured Podesta’s account, using search words to identify any information that could potentially come out and upend the race. > > Campaign manager Robby Mook has tried to keep the mood upbeat among the hundreds of young staffers who populate two floors of an overcrowded campaign headquarters in Brooklyn — and Clinton’s staff claims there’s nothing they have discovered in the hack that they expect will take them down or upend the race. > > But some of the “psy-ops” tactics appear to be working. Anxiety among Clinton aides and allies, some of whom are positioning themselves for jobs in the White House or ambassadorships, is spreading. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-wiki-leaks-thread/768160/117 "2016-10-17T21:03:13Z")
Ecuador shut off Assange’s internet. [https://www.google.com/amp/www.wsj.com/amp/articles/wikileaks-says-state-party-disrupted-assanges-internet-connection-1476714296?client=ms-android-motorola](https://www.google.com/amp/www.wsj.com/amp/articles/wikileaks-says-state-party-disrupted-assanges-internet-connection-1476714296?client=ms-android-motorola) [https://mobile.twitter.com/wikileaks/status/788099178832420865](https://mobile.twitter.com/wikileaks/status/788099178832420865) Not unexpected. The US must be applying enormous pressure on Ecuador. Wiki leaks still released a new batch of emails. Shutting down Assange won’t stop them. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-wiki-leaks-thread/768160/118 "2016-10-17T21:10:52Z")
Called it. (Hey! I did! So I get to call my calling it!) ---
**Author:** ![Duke\_of\_Rat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Duke\_of\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke_of_Rat)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-wiki-leaks-thread/768160/119 "2016-10-17T22:48:48Z")
Damn, guy was a hero when he was outing Bush/Cheney’s Iraq shenanigans. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-wiki-leaks-thread/768160/120 "2016-10-17T23:58:05Z")
Assange is putting his personal liberty at risk by exposing these records. Ecuador can kick him out of their Embassy at any time. That ends any protection that he has. I can only assume he feels this data dump is worth risking everything. I am puzzled why he’s risking so much for these emails. Nothing released so far is worth it. Imho There has to be bigger revelations to come. The military leaks were much different. There were shocking disclosures that changed how many viewed the recent wars. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-wiki-leaks-thread/768160.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-wiki-leaks-thread/768160.md?page=7)