# Electoral College revolt? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 11, 2016, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electoral-college-revolt/771529 "2016-11-11T19:20:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2016, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electoral-college-revolt/771529/201 "2016-12-15T18:15:41Z")
Well, we are in a thread about the electoral college. There are probably better ones to discuss his wisdom and wit. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2016, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electoral-college-revolt/771529/202 "2016-12-15T18:43:57Z")
> [@Bridget\_Burke](#): > > The role of the Electoral College (as changed from its Constitutional basis by the Apportionment Act of the great minds serving in Congress back in 1911) does not make me happy. > > What _really_ makes me sore are the dunderheaded appointments Trump is making to his cabinet. And his dodging of the conflict of interest questions. And his preferring Twitter to press conferences. > > If you really want to propagandize Your Guy, drop the Electoral College debate & start telling us how wonderful the Trump Presidency will be. Let us know about his ethics, his wisdom & wit. . > > Actually, I can see why you’d rather discuss something more abstract. Yeah, the republican response has been, you lost, get over it! And, since it is your fault that you made us win, it is your fault what we are about to do. ---
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2016, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electoral-college-revolt/771529/203 "2016-12-15T18:50:35Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > Well, we are in a thread about the electoral college. There are probably better ones to discuss his wisdom and wit. So–why waste your energy here? The College will install Trump, no matter what we say here. Where are those threads explaining the wonderfulness of the upcoming regime? ---
**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2016, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electoral-college-revolt/771529/204 "2016-12-15T18:51:14Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > Yeah, the republican response has been, you lost, get over it! [Obama to GOP: “I won”](http://www.politico.com/story/2009/01/obama-to-gop-i-won-017862) ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2016, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electoral-college-revolt/771529/205 "2016-12-15T18:57:15Z")
> [@Bridget\_Burke](#): > > So–why waste your energy here? The College will install Trump, no matter what we say here. Because it’s fun. Because watching the Democrats frantically thrash about, looking for the tiniest little thread of anything to try to overturn the election results is some of the best entertainment I’ve had all year. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2016, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electoral-college-revolt/771529/206 "2016-12-15T19:11:24Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > Because it’s fun. Because watching the Democrats frantically thrash about, looking for the tiniest little thread of anything to try to overturn the election results is some of the best entertainment I’ve had all year. > [@](#): > > Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) said Monday it “defies belief” that Republican politicians would hesitate to review Russia’s intrusion. Former acting CIA director Mike Morrell called the Russian interference “the political equivalent of 9/11.” Mitch McConnell is now a Democrat. OK then. ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2016, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electoral-college-revolt/771529/207 "2016-12-15T19:13:56Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Mitch McConnell is now a Democrat. OK then. Is it your belief that McConnell is hoping to overturn the election results? ---
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2016, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electoral-college-revolt/771529/208 "2016-12-15T19:40:37Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > Because it’s fun. Because watching the Democrats frantically thrash about, looking for the tiniest little thread of anything to try to overturn the election results is some of the best entertainment I’ve had all year. Far more entertaining than trying to find something good to say about The Donald! ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2016, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electoral-college-revolt/771529/209 "2016-12-15T19:53:42Z")
> [@Bridget\_Burke](#): > > Far more entertaining than trying to find something good to say about The Donald! It sure is, but if you want to have a thread about that, start one and I’ll pop in and share some thoughts. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2016, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electoral-college-revolt/771529/210 "2016-12-15T20:26:45Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > Because it’s fun. Because watching the Democrats frantically thrash about, looking for the tiniest little thread of anything to try to overturn the election results is some of the best entertainment I’ve had all year. Do you also enjoy watching drowning kittens? They frantically thrash about, looking for the tiniest little thread of anything to try to overturn their fate. Of course, in this situation, you get to enjoy that fate along the rest of us. As you have yet to have actually said anything positive about Trump, I assume that you are just as concerned about the future with him as president as we are, you are just getting glee out of watching the people who are trying to help you get punished for their efforts. > [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > Is it your belief that McConnell is hoping to overturn the election results? Flipping to hillary, probably not. But getting the electors to appoint an actual mainstream republican, yeah, I think that is exactly what he is hoping. ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2016, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electoral-college-revolt/771529/211 "2016-12-15T20:34:23Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > … I assume that you are just as concerned about the future with him as president as we are … There are things that concern me, but I thought it was obvious I’m not nearly as concerned as the deranged Democrats. > [@k9bfriender](#): > > … the people who are trying to help you … Bullshit! They think I’m ‘irredeemable’ and ‘deplorable’. They’re not trying to _help_ me. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2016, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electoral-college-revolt/771529/212 "2016-12-15T20:37:27Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > [Obama to GOP: “I won”](http://www.politico.com/story/2009/01/obama-to-gop-i-won-017862) Yes, and that was after many hours of negotiation, where both sides were ostensibly working towards the same thing, helping recover from the economic collapse, and there was disagreement on the exact details of the plan. The idea that Obama won, and therefore should get to set the direction was something that was lost on the republicans, as they were insisting on having their way in the negotiations. They needed to be reminded of the fact that they were not in fact in charge, and that others had ideas that the american people wanted to see implemented. That is different than the situation where the republicans are currently trying to taunt the democrats with their “You lost, get over it!” rhetoric. Especially as it was a pyrrhic victory for them as they actually don’t want to go the direction that Trump is looking to take them. Did you see the democrats blaming the republicans for letting their candidate win with Obama? No, then it’s a bit different. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2016, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electoral-college-revolt/771529/213 "2016-12-15T20:42:28Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > Bullshit! They think I’m ‘irredeemable’ and ‘deplorable’. They’re not trying to _help_ me. Well, I didn’t think that you were a racist or a bigot, so I don’t know why you self describe as deplorable, but, in any case, I think the democrats have come around to the idea that racists and bigots need a seat at the table too. I don’t really like it, but if you are a self described deplorable, then I suppose we need your voice as well. And the idea that the democrats are not trying to help you? Well, maybe not you specifically, especially if you are a proud racist, but everyone is better off in a more peaceful, prosperous society, and that is what they are working on providing for you. The fact that you slap away that help doesn’t mean that we think you’re irredeemable, just that you need help more than you are willing to admit. ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2016, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electoral-college-revolt/771529/214 "2016-12-15T21:03:21Z")
You need to try reading my post again. I said “THEY THINK”. I didn’t claim to be a self-described or proud anything. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2016, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electoral-college-revolt/771529/215 "2016-12-15T21:34:56Z")
Seems like you neither trust nor respect the man all that much, but the pleasure of gloating at disheartened Dems is too sweet to resist. Got that about right? ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2016, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electoral-college-revolt/771529/216 "2016-12-15T21:40:30Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > You need to try reading my post again. I said “THEY THINK”. I didn’t claim to be a self-described or proud anything. Well, if you are not a bigot or a homophobe or a sexist or a xenophobe, then why do you think that they think that you are deplorable? Is this just something that you assume? Now, if you voted for Trump, then you are certainly allied with deplorables, so I would make the argument that it would be best to stand away from those who are rightly described as deplorable in order to avoid getting smeared with a similar brush. Now, who has called you deplorable? I will have words with them, I know it upsets you and removes you agency, and makes you do things you would rather not do. (Unless it was the pit, of course, no rules, so no reason to take things personally there. Or Der Trihs, I have no more words for him.) ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2016, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electoral-college-revolt/771529/217 "2016-12-15T21:46:14Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > There are things that concern me, but I thought it was obvious I’m not nearly as concerned as the deranged Democrats. Because you’re not paying attention, or…? > [@](#): > > Bullshit! They think I’m ‘irredeemable’ and ‘deplorable’. They’re not trying to _help_ me. A rising tide lifts all boats. Or, to put it concretely, _not_ getting into a trade war with China ([or a shooting war with Iran](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/09/09/trump-iranian-boats-that-make-improper-gestures-will-be-shot-out-of-the-water/)) is good for you regardless of how irredeemable or deplorable you may or may not be. If you can’t figure out that it’s generally better to vote for the asshole who is willing and able to look out for your best interests than the flatterer who is unwilling or unable, then you should really reconsider voting in future elections. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2016, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electoral-college-revolt/771529/218 "2016-12-15T22:09:55Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > Is it your belief that McConnell is hoping to overturn the election results? I think that McConnell wants Pence in. ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2016, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electoral-college-revolt/771529/219 "2016-12-15T23:08:32Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > “If” Then Mitch has a lot of reason to investigate and see if the President-Elect stole it. Or, set aside the idea that Trump is a would-be nationalist dictator. If Trump may be an agent of a foreign power, then Mitch should want to look into that, and if Trump be a Russian plant, oppose Trump. ---
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2016, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electoral-college-revolt/771529/220 "2016-12-15T23:16:25Z")
Hillary did say that the “deplorables” constituted “half of trump’s supporters”. Personally, I rate it at about a third, but it just seems like more since that sort leans toward loud and obnoxious. No reason to assume that you’re one of them, unless there is a reason that you’re not sharing. (Calling some trump supporters “loud and obnoxious” is not an insult. It is a defining characteristic. I’m not insulting the wind by saying that it blows.) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electoral-college-revolt/771529.md?page=10) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electoral-college-revolt/771529.md?page=12)