# Electoral College revolt? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 11, 2016, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electoral-college-revolt/771529 "2016-11-11T19:20:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2016, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electoral-college-revolt/771529/221 "2016-12-15T23:39:52Z")
> [@E-DUB](#): > > Hillary did say that the “deplorables” constituted “half of trump’s supporters”. Personally, I rate it at about a third, but it just seems like more since that sort leans toward loud and obnoxious.) … “and some, I assume, are good people.” I’m not sure WHY our Mr. HurricaneDitka actually WANTS to paint himself as one of the “deplorables” I find it odd. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2016, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electoral-college-revolt/771529/222 "2016-12-16T00:36:55Z")
Don’t forget the way liberals always exaggerate labels far beyond their true meaning. When you consider the fact that very few of the people and actions that liberals typically call racist, misogynist, hateful, etc., are in fact any of these things, the true percentage of deplorables amongst the Republicans who voted for Trump is probably in the low single digits. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2016, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electoral-college-revolt/771529/223 "2016-12-16T02:17:02Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > I think that McConnell wants Pence in. As does most every other Republican in Congress; they just a way to accomplish that while minimizing electoral blowback in 2018. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2016, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electoral-college-revolt/771529/224 "2016-12-16T04:47:10Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Don’t forget the way liberals always exaggerate labels far beyond their true meaning. When you consider the fact that very few of the people and actions that liberals typically call racist, misogynist, hateful, etc., are in fact any of these things, the true percentage of deplorables amongst the Republicans who voted for Trump is probably in the low single digits. What kind of uselessly unsubstantiated goo is that? There were at least five points in there that mean jack shit without cites. “Probably” doesn’t establish much credibility, especially if it’s trying to buttress a bone-headed speculation about the deplorable “true percentage”. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2016, 8:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electoral-college-revolt/771529/225 "2016-12-16T08:30:26Z")
Missed edit window by a couple hours…:rolleyes: mods…apologies in advance for mentioning “bone-headed” in my previous post.:o ---
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2016, 8:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electoral-college-revolt/771529/226 "2016-12-16T08:43:18Z")
> [@foolsguinea](#): > > Then Mitch has a lot of reason to investigate and see if the President-Elect stole it. > > Or, set aside the idea that Trump is a would-be nationalist dictator. If Trump may be an agent of a foreign power, then Mitch should want to look into that, and if Trump be a Russian plant, oppose Trump. But Mitch won’t do a thing until after the Electoral College meets & The Donald is inaugurated. Then, if Trump becomes an embarrassment, impeachment or even the threat of impeachment will produce President Pence. More in line with the Republican Establishment. ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2016, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electoral-college-revolt/771529/227 "2016-12-16T15:44:36Z")
> [@Bridget\_Burke](#): > > But Mitch won’t do a thing until after the Electoral College meets & The Donald is inaugurated. Then, if Trump becomes an embarrassment, impeachment or even the threat of impeachment will produce President Pence. More in line with the Republican Establishment. You didn’t really expect him to work to give the presidency to Clinton, did you? ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2016, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electoral-college-revolt/771529/228 "2016-12-16T15:45:37Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > Because you’re not paying attention, or…? Because some Democrats are being drama queens about the election. I predict we’ll survive President Trump more-or-less just fine. ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2016, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electoral-college-revolt/771529/229 "2016-12-16T16:00:51Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > You didn’t really expect him to work to give the presidency to Clinton, did you? Not many intelligent people on our side do at this point. But I think the idea of a bloc of EV’s going to somebody like Romney or McMullin - keeping Trump from getting 270 and throwing decision to Congress - is a reality based and hopeful plan for our country that reasonable Dems can get on board with. ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2016, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electoral-college-revolt/771529/230 "2016-12-16T16:04:47Z")
> [@GrandWino](#): > > Not many intelligent people on our side do at this point. But I think the idea of a bloc of EV’s going to somebody like Romney or McMullin - keeping Trump from getting 270 and throwing decision to Congress - is a reality based and hopeful plan for our country that reasonable Dems can get on board with. LOL. No wonder you guys like to tell each other that “reality has a left-wing bias”. That’s not reality. It’s a fucking fantasy. It’s delusional. It makes me wonder if we need to start giving out straight jackets when people register to vote as Democrats. It’s craziness, not a “plan”. ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2016, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electoral-college-revolt/771529/231 "2016-12-16T16:09:31Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > LOL. No wonder you guys like to tell each other that “reality has a left-wing bias”. That’s not reality. It’s a fucking fantasy. It’s delusional. It makes me wonder if we need to start giving out straight jackets when people register to vote as Democrats. It’s craziness, not a “plan”. This guy (Larry Lessig, Harvard prof, former pres candidate) has been offering free legal advice to electorals looking to flip. He says he knows of 30 that are planning on switching from Trump, and there only need to be 37. It’s a long shot, sure, but it’s not fantasy land either. > **[Harvard law professor says Republican electors close to blocking Trump win](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-electoral-college-republican-faithless-electors-stop-election-result-a7473296.html)** > > If it gets close to the 37 needed 'there will be a very interesting dynamic', says Larry Lessig ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2016, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electoral-college-revolt/771529/232 "2016-12-16T16:09:57Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > LOL. No wonder you guys like to tell each other that “reality has a left-wing bias”. That’s not reality. It’s a fucking fantasy. It’s delusional. It makes me wonder if we need to start giving out straight jackets when people register to vote as Democrats. It’s craziness, not a “plan”. Please do not appear to insult other posters by calling them delusional. [/ moderating] ---
**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2016, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electoral-college-revolt/771529/233 "2016-12-16T16:11:52Z")
> [@GrandWino](#): > > This guy (Larry Lessig, Harvard prof, former pres candidate) has been offering free legal advice to electorals looking to flip. He says he knows of 30 that are planning on switching from Trump, and there only need to be 37. It’s a long shot, sure, but it’s not fantasy land either. > > [Harvard law professor says '30' Republican electors ready to block Donald Trump win | The Independent | The Independent](http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-electoral-college-republican-faithless-electors-stop-election-result-a7473296.html) I am willing to bet $100 that there won’t be more than 3 Republican “faithless” electors. Much less 30. Anyone willing to take the bet? ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2016, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electoral-college-revolt/771529/234 "2016-12-16T16:13:33Z")
> [@Bone](#): > > Please do not appear to insult other posters by calling them delusional. > > [/ moderating] Sorry, I was trying to focus my comments towards the “plan”. ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2016, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electoral-college-revolt/771529/235 "2016-12-16T16:15:46Z")
> [@GrandWino](#): > > This guy (Larry Lessig, Harvard prof, former pres candidate) has been offering free legal advice to electorals looking to flip. He says he knows of 30 that are planning on switching from Trump, and there only need to be 37. It’s a long shot, sure, but it’s not fantasy land either. > > [Harvard law professor says '30' Republican electors ready to block Donald Trump win | The Independent | The Independent](http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-electoral-college-republican-faithless-electors-stop-election-result-a7473296.html) Bullshit. Your cite doesn’t say “He knows of 30 that are planning on switching from Trump”. It says, “between 20 and 30 Republican electors are **considering** voting against Mr Trump”. I can just imagine how those conversations have gone: “OK, sure Larry, I’ll think about it, but I have to get back to work now.” ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2016, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electoral-college-revolt/771529/236 "2016-12-16T17:41:40Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > It says, “between 20 and 30 Republican electors are **considering** voting against Mr Trump”. I can just imagine how those conversations have gone: “OK, sure Larry, I’ll think about it, but I have to get back to work now.” Gotta agree, I’ll be stunned if it even comes close. ---
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2016, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electoral-college-revolt/771529/237 "2016-12-16T18:11:25Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > You didn’t really expect him to work to give the presidency to Clinton, did you? OF course not. Mitch, like most Real Republicans, does not like Trump very much. But , even if he became convinced that Trump was guilty of conspiring with Putin, he’d wait to “discover” that _after_ the Inauguration. Then–President Pence! I also scorn the possibility that a more “reasonable” Republican be named by the Electoral College. The Republicans chose The Donald–let their reputation depend on his actions. Besides, most Republican issues would remain as bad–even with a Cabinet less fit to work a carnival side show. ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2016, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electoral-college-revolt/771529/238 "2016-12-17T06:21:38Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > Because some Democrats are being drama queens about the election. I predict we’ll survive President Trump more-or-less just fine. You didn’t say, “knock on wood.” That’s tempting fate, that is. ---
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2016, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electoral-college-revolt/771529/239 "2016-12-18T20:26:21Z")
Now I’ve heard everything: a legal challenge involving two faithless electors- who want to vote for Trump: [Colorado Supreme Court won’t hear appeal from anti-Trump electors](http://www.denverpost.com/2016/12/16/colorado-supreme-court-declines-anti-trump-electors-appeal/) Yes, that’s right, “anti-Trump” electors- who nevertheless want to vote for Trump in order to establish that electors can vote their conscience, regardless of partisan affiliation. Part of a larger strategy by a group known as “Hamilton Electors”, they hope their example will encourage other electors to defect from Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2016, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electoral-college-revolt/771529/240 "2016-12-18T20:32:56Z")
> [@Lumpy](#): > > Now I’ve heard everything: a legal challenge involving two faithless electors- who want to vote for Trump: > > [Colorado Supreme Court won’t hear appeal from anti-Trump electors](http://www.denverpost.com/2016/12/16/colorado-supreme-court-declines-anti-trump-electors-appeal/) The article you cited does not indicate that the faithless electors in question want to vote for Trump. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electoral-college-revolt/771529.md?page=11) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electoral-college-revolt/771529.md?page=13)