Electors take anti-Trump battle to court

If that’s how the Electoral College votes, then yes. Until then, there’s nothing to accept. That the Electors cast their votes for the candidate who won the most votes in their respective states is tradition, not law. While I fully expect that at least 270 Electors will vote for Trump on December 19, and will accept the results when that happens, I would also accept the results if they, by some strange set of circumstances, turn out some other way.

That wasn’t the point of the war. On the Southern side, it was to preserve slavery. On the Northern side, it was to preserve the Union. Lincoln just utilized the opportunity to put an end to any further questions on the issue.

The war was about slavery, even from the North’s side. You have to consider the stated reason - preserving the Union - within the context. Which was that Lincoln was elected on a platform of ending the further geographical expansion of slavery. Absent that platform, the Union would have preserved itself without a war.

And in retrospect, the point of the war (and ample justification for it) was getting rid of slavery.

People talking about jettisoning the South behaving terribly. Many of us here in the South live under a sort of hostile occupying government that treats minority citizens with all the oppression they can get away with. Remove federal laws, and those citizens suddenly suffer a great deal more.

Southerners need the rest of the country to mitigate the effects of our awful governments.

Source?

Exactly. I’m not in the south but I agree with you.

In fact, I don’t think that it would even be legal, even if the other states and the feds agreed to it. The constitution gives certain rights and protections to US citizens and there’s nothing in it that would allow those citizens to be arbitrarily stripped of that citizenship and those rights and protections solely based on the whims of a state or even of the federal government. It would require a constitutional amendment, and I think that an amendment to dissolve the union is pretty unlikely.