The car may have that feature in “Kia connect”, which i don’t subscribe to for reasons. The charger also has that feature, if i could get it on the Internet. (Which means connecting it to me home Wi-Fi.) In practice, i don’t have that feature.
The town will give me a discount if i program the car to only charge after 11pm (which is administered manually, they want me to to email them a photo of the setting on the relevant app – they obviously aren’t worried about people cheating) so they obviously prefer of I’d charge at night. But I’m too lazy to tiptoe down just before bed to plug in the car.
Why “glad you didn’t”? I have one and I love it.
Very logical. I would imagine the “charge ASAP” would be a higher cost than “As long as it’s good by 8AM”, as well as idle fees. One way or another, the people using the power will need to pay for it, since it’s a significant amount.
I’m imagining a system where the number of charges can be much greater, because the controller spreads and limits the load, rather than independent chargers. You have 40 of the 50A chargers? You wouldn’t need anywhere near (40x50)Amp feed or wire capacity, because nowhere near all the chargers running full blast will happen at the same time - just as you have, say, 5 outlets on a circuit in your home (I believe that’s code) any one can draw 12A - but plug in two toasters you pop the breaker. (But wouldn’t if there’s a controller to tell each (smart) toaster to use half the usual current).
Then everyone with an EV gets an assigned charger parking spot. The controller would even be smart enough to start charging some vehicles as soon as plugged in, to spread the load even further if there’s no time-variable power rate. It might even monitor and take into account the power used in the apartments too, to ensure the total feed for the building is used optimally.
Oops, sorry, wasn’t trying to correct you, just adding to the convo… rebadging is such an interesting phenomenon (and makes car shopping harder, IMO, so it’s useful to know when cars are actually the same thing just reskinned).
It wasn’t a reflection on the car. More one of circumstances and time. I ended up with a BMW iX1, which has been brilliant. Closer to my needs, and with the current tax incentives will end up costing me almost exactly half the iPace for a fully optioned one. The timing was everything. iPace is still likely nicer, but not two times nicer.
Timing in the EV market has been a big factor. The vagaries of government incentives really skews decisions. Here in Oz, my iX1 was right at the break point where one more dollar in price would remove the entirety of the government incentives. Back when the iPace was first on my radar there were no incentives at all. So massive distortion of value propositions.
No worries. Communicating clearly sometimes takes a village to point out all the ways something can be misunderstood. Part of my habitual wordiness is trying to close off avenues of possible confusion. Then I toss out a half-thought clause and as Britney sang: oops, I did it again.
Heh, that makes two of us!
Which, of course, the seller knew, and deliberately priced it precisely at that point. Even if, absent the incentive, they would have charged more.
While 110v/120v circuits might be ok in fair weather, when it gets cold they become much more inefficient because they have to keep the battery above a certain temp so it will accept a charge. On very cold days, with a car unprotected from wind, this can use more than 50% of the 1.3kw provided by most 120v/15A circuits under a continuous load, meaning you’re a) paying double or more what you would normally and b) only getting 2-ish miles per hour from the charger.
There’s definitely a need for something capable of at least 3-4kw if you want to make it viable.
It is messy because only a subset of buyers are eligible for the incentives. But it was pretty clear that the incentive break point was placing significant pressure keeping the price down.
My car was the initial configuration that only came as all wheel drive. Typically BMW release a cheaper FWD variant of a model sometime later. I was pretty sure there was a window in which the AWD was at the breakpoint and once the FWD was released the AWD would be allowed to rise in price past the threshold and the FWD take its place as the subsidised model. Turns out I got it exactly right.
As it was, the fully optioned car was listed at higher than the threshold, but they discounted it back without blinking as soon as you asked.
It wasn’t hard to work out the constraints on the system. Sadly popularity of the car meant a 6 month wait and zero room for deal making beyond those simple constraints.
And then you only get about 2/3 the normal range out of the cold battery when you drive, so even more expensive and futile.
All the more reason to get a 240V outlet in the garage. (which you can also use for heavy-duty tools if that’s your thing…)
I found out that the outside outlet I plug my 120v EVSE into and one of the three outlets in the kitchen are on the same breaker the first time I used an air fryer when I was charging the car.