# Electric Sun **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [July 8, 2006, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electric-sun/363586 "2006-07-08T02:15:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 18
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2006, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electric-sun/363586/341 "2006-07-23T22:12:58Z")
[QUOTE=TheFonz] Oh I’m sorry, I thought you were _trying_ somewhat to think about the evidence for yourself. You know, the pictures, the magnetic fields, you know… the facts and not the THEORIES. [/QUOTE] Forgot to add: I already did bother to see the pretty (stolen) pictures you post, I looked for better evidence and pictures, I not only thought of the evidence, but I investigated, what you point out is not the whole picture and me and others find that you are producing constantly misleading evidence. You have no facts and that only produces sorry theories. ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2006, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electric-sun/363586/342 "2006-07-23T22:14:31Z")
[QUOTE=TheFonz] No strawman in that argument. You can say it’s not so all you want, but as far as I’m concerned I’ve won this one. [/QUOTE] Scott? Scotty boy? Is that you? O glory! Hey guys! **Scott Plaid’s** back! Let’s kill the fatted … squid or whatever. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2006, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electric-sun/363586/343 "2006-07-23T22:20:40Z")
[QUOTE=TheFonz] What’s pathetic is that you’re trying to please the crowd and not actually debate the subject at hand. Crap like this: [/quote] I said that because it is the truth, I have dealth with Moon hoaxers, flood proponents and I already read Von Daniken, Velikovsky and many others untill I noticed they had lousy evidence. > [@](#): > > Instantly gives you away. If you can’t _hang_ then get out. As I said, you have another thing coming if you continue to steal images and refuse to post to sites that show any research done to support your points. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2006, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electric-sun/363586/344 "2006-07-23T22:28:12Z")
[QUOTE=TheFonz] If you can’t _hang_ then get out. [/QUOTE] Says the guy that was afraid to show up at his own roast: > **[TheFonz jumps the dinosaur](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=379296)** > > The jump in progress: Dinosaurs and Man?!? TOGETHER??? - Great Debates - Straight Dope Message Board After a lightning storm, the SDMB cable TV channels in my house got scrambled, it was a trip to see a Food Network show mixed with the Donner party... ---
**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2006, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electric-sun/363586/345 "2006-07-23T22:29:39Z")
[QUOTE=TheFonz] Oh I’m sorry, I thought you were _trying_ somewhat to think about the evidence for yourself. You know, the pictures, the magnetic fields, you know… the facts and not the THEORIES. [/QUOTE] He’s right, you know. Pictures = Facts. Which is why i’d like to present to you the TRUE nature of the Universe; planets are merely the food of an enormous, powerful being known as Galactus. As an aspect of the Universe, Galactus creates these “planets” (known to him as “tastori”, a Greek word from which we get our word “tasty”) as giant cosmic “eggs” which, when full of life, can then be consumed by him to provide him with sustenance. Look here; [http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d90/shadeedge/Earth.jpg](http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d90/shadeedge/Earth.jpg) this is a planet ripe for eating; you can already see the swirl of whipped cream he has added to the south of planet to improve it’s taste. This one is multi-flavoured; [http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d90/shadeedge/240px-Jupiter.jpg](http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d90/shadeedge/240px-Jupiter.jpg) like our cakes (which we also derived from Galactus) this one has clear multiple layers, some chocolate, some marshmallow. And here, a purely blueberry flavoured “planet”; [http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d90/shadeedge/240px-Uranus.jpg](http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d90/shadeedge/240px-Uranus.jpg) I believe i’ve made my point; after all, pictures are facts. Or perhaps it’s just that our analysis of pictures can be suspect. Hmm. Nah. ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2006, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electric-sun/363586/346 "2006-07-23T22:33:33Z")
[QUOTE=TheFonz] Oh I’m sorry, I thought you were _trying_ somewhat to think about the evidence for yourself. You know, the pictures, the magnetic fields, you know… the facts and not the THEORIES. [/QUOTE] You want pictures. I got pictures. [The Jackelope.](http://snowedin.net/images/jackalope-640.JPG) [A Mermaid.](http://theoscarsite.com/chronicle/1984img/splash.jpg) [Proof That We Never Landed On The Moon.](http://www.stuffucanuse.com/fake_moon_landings/moon_landings.htm) Pretty scary, huh. Imagine if that were a \*magnetized \*Jackelope. Talk about your [Armageddon!](http://www.cinenet.gr/wallpapers/armageddon.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![TheFonz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ac8455/32.png) [@TheFonz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheFonz)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2006, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electric-sun/363586/347 "2006-07-23T23:14:17Z")
> [@](#): > > Forgot to add: I already did bother to see the pretty (stolen) pictures you post, I looked for better evidence and pictures, I not only thought of the evidence, but I investigated, what you point out is not the whole picture and me and others find that you are producing constantly misleading evidence. You have no facts and that only produces sorry theories. The pictures are not facts? They are theories as well? Pathetic. I bet you can’t deny that those are tornadoes surrounding sunspot walls, in all that glowing hot gas making snaking filaments. I bet you cannot deny charged particles are headed towards sunspots. In those lines you saw in the picture of the sunspot. I bet you can’t deny that sunspots are massive hurricane-like storms. Unfortunately, I don’t bet you’ll ever see the significance of it. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2006, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electric-sun/363586/348 "2006-07-23T23:44:28Z")
[QUOTE=TheFonz] The pictures are not facts? They are theories as well? Pathetic. [/quote] See \*\*Contrapuntal \*\* and **Revenant Threshold** although extreme, they show the problems with your evidence, your images do not show the “facts” you say they are showing, for that we need the context and the research showing that they are what you think they are. (after research, I can see that they show other facts that you are choosing to ignore now). > [@](#): > > I bet you can’t deny that those are tornadoes surrounding sunspot walls, in all that glowing hot gas making snaking filaments. I bet you cannot deny charged particles are headed towards sunspots. In those lines you saw in the picture of the sunspot. I bet you can’t deny that sunspots are massive hurricane-like storms. Why is it that I picture the cowardly lion saying that? :). In any case, right now I see you are hung up on that point because you can not deal with the others. (a point that you are not noticing was partially granted (sun spots structures have a lot to do with magnetic phenomena, but that is only part of the story) It is not the sun spots I’m worried about, what I bet is that you will continue to ignore how sorry your evidence is attempting to make volcanic and meteor activity to be electric in nature. > [@](#): > > Unfortunately, I don’t bet you’ll ever see the significance of it. You are now just silly not noticing there is something to say about sun spots, but it is not the reason why your ideas are looking silly now. ---
**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2006, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electric-sun/363586/349 "2006-07-23T23:46:06Z")
[QUOTE=GIGObuster] There is no evidence for [Atlantis, Lemuria, Mu, and the Great Flood] [/QUOTE] I didn’t ask **The Fonz** for evidence of them. I simply asked if they figured in his theories. It was a yes or no question. He said yes. I didn’t ask him for evidence. At present, I am trying to see his history, cosmology etc. Leaving details, including proof , aside for now I want to see his big picture. ---
**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2006, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electric-sun/363586/350 "2006-07-23T23:52:52Z")
[QUOTE=Revenant Threshold] He’s right, you know. Pictures = Facts. Which is why i’d like to present to you the TRUE nature of the Universe; planets are merely the food of an enormous, powerful being known as Galactus. As an aspect of the Universe, Galactus creates these “planets” (known to him as “tastori”, a Greek word from which we get our word “tasty”) as giant cosmic “eggs” which, when full of life, can then be consumed by him to provide him with sustenance. Look here; [/QUOTE] Galactus doesn’t create planets. He just eats them. Many planets, including earth, _are_ giant eggs. After formation, the Celestials place an embryo within the planet. Know your Kirby. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2006, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electric-sun/363586/351 "2006-07-23T23:56:38Z")
[QUOTE=DocCathode] I didn’t ask **The Fonz** for evidence of them. I simply asked if they figured in his theories. It was a yes or no question. He said yes. I didn’t ask him for evidence. At present, I am trying to see his history, cosmology etc. Leaving details, including proof , aside for now I want to see his big picture. [/QUOTE] And that could be obtained with links to sites that show that big picture or a similar point of view (by experience I can tell you they exist) it would be better than the “Dance of the Seven Veils” \*\*TheFonz \*\* is performing here. ---
**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2006, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electric-sun/363586/352 "2006-07-23T23:59:39Z")
[QUOTE=DocCathode] Galactus doesn’t create planets. He just eats them. Many planets, including earth, _are_ giant eggs. After formation, the Celestials place an embryo within the planet. Know your Kirby. [/QUOTE] I am ashamed. I did know that it was someone else who puts the embryos in the planets, but couldn’t remember which group it was. Oh well. At least the facts/pictures still support my position. ---
**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2006, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electric-sun/363586/353 "2006-07-24T00:01:53Z")
If a wanted a_similar_ point of view I could just pick up my copies of Ancient Astronauts, or Book Of The Damned. I want to know **The Fonz** ’s big picture with all the details that are his alone. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2006, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electric-sun/363586/354 "2006-07-24T00:08:57Z")
[QUOTE=DocCathode] If a wanted a_similar_ point of view I could just pick up my copies of Ancient Astronauts, or Book Of The Damned. I want to know **The Fonz** ’s big picture with all the details that are his alone. [/QUOTE] Me too, but by finding where the stolen images came from, it has been demonstrated that (so far) there are no details that are his alone. ---
**Author:** ![42fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/b487fb/32.png) [@42fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/42fish)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2006, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electric-sun/363586/355 "2006-07-24T03:23:56Z")
[QUOTE=TheFonz] I heard our very own country’s wheat harvest is barely half of what it was last year. This cannot be good. [/QUOTE] US Wheat stats from the National Agricultural Statistics Service ([http://www.nass.usda.gov:8080/QuickStats/index2.jsp](http://www.nass.usda.gov:8080/QuickStats/index2.jsp)): Year …1000s of acres harvested …Production (millions of bushells) 2006 …47,048…1,805.6 2005 …50,119…2,104.7 2004 …49,999…2,158.2 2003 …53,063…2,344.8 2002 …45,824…1,605.9 2001 …48,473…1,947.4 ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2006, 7:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electric-sun/363586/356 "2006-07-24T07:56:47Z")
[QUOTE=42fish] US Wheat stats from the National Agricultural Statistics Service ([http://www.nass.usda.gov:8080/QuickStats/index2.jsp](http://www.nass.usda.gov:8080/QuickStats/index2.jsp)): Year …1000s of acres harvested …Production (millions of bushells) 2006 …47,048…1,805.6 2005 …50,119…2,104.7 2004 …49,999…2,158.2 2003 …53,063…2,344.8 2002 …45,824…1,605.9 2001 …48,473…1,947.4 [/QUOTE] Sorry. You have been brainwashed. We’re gonna need pictures. Unattributed, if you got’em. ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2006, 8:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electric-sun/363586/357 "2006-07-24T08:18:40Z")
[QUOTE=Contrapuntal] Sorry. You have been brainwashed. We’re gonna need pictures. Unattributed, if you got’em. [/QUOTE] [Is this of any help at all?](http://www.oznet.ksu.edu/fieldday/kids/pictures/kidsfield600/cg_wheat_closeup.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Grey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b782af/32.png) [@Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2006, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electric-sun/363586/358 "2006-07-24T13:40:50Z")
[QUOTE=42fish] US Wheat stats from the National Agricultural Statistics Service ([http://www.nass.usda.gov:8080/QuickStats/index2.jsp](http://www.nass.usda.gov:8080/QuickStats/index2.jsp)): Year …1000s of acres harvested …Production (millions of bushells) 2006 …47,048…1,805.6 2005 …50,119…2,104.7 2004 …49,999…2,158.2 2003 …53,063…2,344.8 2002 …45,824…1,605.9 2001 …48,473…1,947.4 [/QUOTE] Well of course they’d say that! Duh. BUT only half that is making it to market while the rest if rendered into vegetable oil [(PROOF!)](http://www.lamotte.de/english/vegetableoils.html) which can be pumped back into the earth to better mitigate the galactic flux [(PICS!)](http://images.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=http://users.rcn.com/zap.dnai/fluxcap.gif&imgrefurl=http://users.rcn.com/zap.dnai/cnslt001.html&h=480&w=640&sz=7&hl=en&start=8&tbnid=DHCOCh9NBLiajM:&tbnh=103&tbnw=137&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dflux%2Bcapacitor%2B%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D). Dead cave people knew this, why don’t you!? ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2006, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electric-sun/363586/359 "2006-07-24T14:28:48Z")
[QUOTE=Smeghead] [Is this of any help at all?](http://www.oznet.ksu.edu/fieldday/kids/pictures/kidsfield600/cg_wheat_closeup.jpg) [/QUOTE] Yes! That is it exactly! It is a perfect picture of half a wheat field. That’s all I need. And **Grey** seals the deal. Guess I’ll start stockpiling supplies for the coming unpleasantness. ---
**Author:** ![Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapioca_Dextrin)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2006, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electric-sun/363586/360 "2006-07-24T14:34:32Z")
The upcoming electric unpleasentness, surely? :dubious: [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electric-sun/363586.md?page=17) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electric-sun/363586.md?page=19)