Totally fine. Optimal, even.
I worked out the numbers a while back: on a Model 3, the lowered air density from hot air actually gives more power savings than the extra load on the AC unit. And in my experience, this is borne out–I see maybe a 10% range increase going from cool temps (say, 10 C) to warm (35 C).
The cells themselves like to be warm. Tesla now has a feature that pre-warms the battery pack before reaching a Supercharger station because they can charge faster that way.
Dude,you literally were bitching about me cherry picking the cost of a super charger. I respond with a cite showing you know nothin about supercharger cost. Now you’re changing your story to pretend you were complaining about installing a supercharger at all. Do you understand that everything is saved and stored for us all to see?
Nissan LEAF batteries are not great in high temperatures. They do not have active battery cooling. This does lead in some cases to premature battery degradation. (think areas like Phoenix AZ; not kind to LEAF batteries)
In areas like yours, stick to EV’s with good thermal management.
Exactly this. I’m not sure how often anyone actually drives for 600 miles non-stop without a break for even a pee. I actually think it’s recommended to take breaks while driving to avoid fatigue, which can be dangerous.
Whenever I have stopped for gas in my ICE car on a road trip, I don’t think I have EVER gassed up and zoomed off. My family uses the restroom, we get snacks, have a stretch…
DC fast chargers are being installed every 200km or so along the major highways in my neck of the woods. Canadian Tire is installing them in parking lots of their stores. PetroCanada is rolling out fast chargers in their stations that are located on or near major highways.
In general, people really have trouble wrapping their heads around how an EV changes the way we will be thinking about how we “fuel” our vehicles.
Yep the 200 miles in 75 minutes for a supercharger totally makes my points crazy. Oh wait, I said that 600 miles in 480 minutes would be needed which is half the speed of a supercharger and then proposed putting a supercharger. Huh, its almost like you agree with me.
You may have just answered a question I’ve often wondered. My washer and electric dryer just happen to be in my garage anyway. If I had an EV, could I simply unplug the dryer and plug the EV into the 220 V dryer outlet? Would I even need any new wiring at all?
You mean the cost to a company who has installed hundreds of chargers across the country instead of a small urban pilot. I think having a discussion on what the infrastructure cost really would be to hotels would be interesting but attacking me for proposing a charger that meets the standards that I explained how I achieved and documenting the cost for that installation is hardly a crazy way to argue.
No new wiring required. The existing outlet is fine.
If you’re really lazy, you can get something like the Dryer Buddy. One input, two outputs, and has either a manual or automatic cutover. But just unplugging and replugging works fine, too.
You continue to spout misinformation. It’s roughly 200 miles in 25 minutes for a Supercharger, not 75 minutes. And not too long from now, it’ll be 200 miles in 15 minutes.
You know what you are correct. If there were supercharger equivalents every 200 miles across the country then EVs would be totally practical and you wouldn’t even need the charger at the hotel since you could add 200 miles in 20 minutes over breakfast. That would solve range anxiety completely. Hmmm . . . That almost exactly what I’ve proposed.
Admittedly it would be my personal hell having to stop every 3 hours but it would work.
Maybe you should write a book so you can cite yourself. I’ve been citing my sources where are yours? The wikipedia pageshows 20 minutes to 50%, 40 minutes to 80% and 75 minutes to 100%. Maybe I’m missing something but at least I’m showing my work.
Yes you can, though a typical dryer outlet is only 30 amps (NEMA 14-30 usually), which will max out at around 7.2kw for charging. (But in reality, an EV will not draw the full 30 amps so as to not trip your breaker, so you’ll get maybe 6kw.)
I installed a 50-amp (NEMA 14-50) plug on my garage to charge my EV. Fortunately the main electrical panel was only a few feet away so the installation was very easy. I just had to pay a guy to bend the conduit for me, since I don’t have a conduit bender.
The car will draw 40 amps (9.6kw) which can effect a recharge from zero to 90% in about eight hours. Of course I almost never bring the car home anywhere near empty, so it usually charges for 3-4 hours a night.
I think everyone can see how bizarrely distorted your views are here. Reasonable stopping interval for just about everyone equals “personal hell” for Oredigger77.
Well, I can show you a photo of my own charge screen here. It shows a charge rate of 486 miles/hour. Note that this is an instantaneous rate–it can’t sustain that over the full charge cycle. But it can get roughly that below 70%ish. 200 mi / 486 mph * 60 min/hour = 24.7 minutes.
You don’t charge to 100% at a Supercharger (I included this fact in my trip above). The charge rate declines rapidly at high charge levels. Stopping in the 70-80% range is ideal. Charging at ~200 mile intervals works nicely.
Just an honest question here - when the rest of us use terms like Supercharger and L2, do you know what we are talking about? As in, could you describe the difference between the two?
I ask because you seem to use the word supercharger in varying ways, sometimes maybe referring to an L2 charger.
It was the first Google hit :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: It’s insulting to think that I spent as much time as I did in making sure that my throwaway line “millions” wasn’t completely inaccurate only to be accused of not doing any research.
Did this hotel have streetlights in the parking lot? Then some power has already been run.
My understanding, and I’m going to do this post without google, is that L1 chargers are the basic home chargers, L2 are the fancier chargers that are also used at like grocery stores and stuff that offer public charging typically to try and draw in EV drivers. Superchargers are specific to tesla who also has mega chargers. Originally you could sign up to get them to put a free supercharger at your facility and put you on a map so tesla divers would come visit you. If you’re looking for technical differences no I have no idea. No more than I do that level 5 autonomous driving means that people aren’t need and at level 4 someone still has to sit there but I don’t know the details.
Honestly, I couldn’t tell you where the nearest public charger is as my interest in EVs is purely theoretical. I do know that I’ve talked a dozen people into EVs in the last year and talked to probably 50 people due to my excitement over the R1T. Getting the range to 400 miles makes a big difference to most people myself included. I think I’ve showed why that true.
From what I can tell you are the one who brought up the $6,000 outlet. You really seem to be running with the bit but it sure has me confused.