# Electrical pollution IS KILLING YOU ALL!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electrical-pollution-is-killing-you-all/654111>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 27, 2013, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electrical-pollution-is-killing-you-all/654111 "2013-03-27T17:20:57Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 16\
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**Author:** ![jz78817](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jz78817/32/1028_2.png) [@jz78817](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jz78817)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2013, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electrical-pollution-is-killing-you-all/654111/21 "2013-03-28T14:12:40Z")

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> [@CannyDan](#):
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> I think he’s suggesting that the whack-jobs totally ignore the relatively enormous amounts of E&M they are exposed to from the giant ball of burning hydrogen in the sky

some of which- by the way- _is_ ionizing radiation…

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> (maybe because it’s “natural”) and become hysterical about the relatively infinitesimal amounts emitted by common household objects.
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> Or maybe I misunderstood.

I don’t get why some people worry about mobile phones when we’ve been practically bathed in radio transmissions for a long-ass time.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2013, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electrical-pollution-is-killing-you-all/654111/22 "2013-03-28T14:24:35Z")

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> [@bienville](#):
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> The things you say- your purple prose just gives you away. You’re unbelievable.

Ooh!!

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**Author:** ![Small\_Clanger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9fc348/32.png) [@Small\_Clanger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Small_Clanger)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2013, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electrical-pollution-is-killing-you-all/654111/23 "2013-03-28T14:34:37Z")

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[QUOTE=CannyDan]  
I think he’s suggesting…  
Or maybe I misunderstood.  
[/QUOTE]  
No, you’re spot on thankyou.

I had a (pained) read of the book I first saw this in, and one recommended treatment for electricity poisoning is…

[Electro-Crystal Therapy](http://www.healthandgoodness.com/article/electro-crystal-therapy-and-health.html)

> [@Alternative medicine whackjobs](#):
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> The energy field can then be measured with a handheld scanner. These results, which can show past, present and **future problems** are analysed, and the appropriate Electro-Crystal therapy treatment can be arranged.

Future problems?

It also says to have your house _dowsed_, by a professional dowser. And apparently running water makes the electricity pollution worse, or something.

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**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2013, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electrical-pollution-is-killing-you-all/654111/24 "2013-03-28T14:56:59Z")

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> [@CannyDan](#):
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> I think he’s suggesting that the whack-jobs totally ignore the relatively enormous amounts of E&M they are exposed to from the giant ball of burning hydrogen in the sky (maybe because it’s “natural”) and become hysterical about the relatively infinitesimal amounts emitted by common household objects.

What do you mean ignore it? I assume whack-jobs wear sunscreen, sunglasses and get their moles checked the same as just about everyone else. I don’t see any evidence they ignore the danger from sun exposure.

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2013, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electrical-pollution-is-killing-you-all/654111/25 "2013-03-28T15:14:13Z")

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> [@Folacin](#):
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> We have micro-evolved over the last 6,000 years to be able to (mostly) withstand exactly the amount of radiation the sun gives off.

So, we can’t withstand even a slightly lower amount?

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**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2013, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electrical-pollution-is-killing-you-all/654111/26 "2013-03-28T15:19:27Z")

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> [@Darth\_Panda](#):
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> So, we can’t withstand even a slightly lower amount?

Heh, you jump on that instead of the 6000 years thing? But **Folacin** is obviously being factious.

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**Author:** ![CannyDan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cannydan/32/548_2.png) [@CannyDan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CannyDan)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2013, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electrical-pollution-is-killing-you-all/654111/27 "2013-03-28T15:59:09Z")

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> [@Simplicio](#):
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> What do you mean ignore it? I assume whack-jobs wear sunscreen, sunglasses and get their moles checked the same as just about everyone else. I don’t see any evidence they ignore the danger from sun exposure.

Perhaps you overlooked [this](http://www.mercola.com/Downloads/bonus/benefits-of-sun-exposure/report.aspx). Among other revelations:

> [@Some Whackjob](#):
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> The Free Report OVER A MILLION PEOPLE DIE EVERY YEAR FROM LACK OF SUN EXPOSURE sheds light on the issue of sun exposure, telling you:
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> Why sunlight is healthy  
> How just 10-15 minutes of sunlight per day can help you prevent cancer

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**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2013, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electrical-pollution-is-killing-you-all/654111/28 "2013-03-28T16:08:14Z")

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> [@CannyDan](#):
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> Perhaps you overlooked [this](http://www.mercola.com/Downloads/bonus/benefits-of-sun-exposure/report.aspx). Among other revelations:

Does the person who made that website advocate against the dangers of celphone radiation? If not, I don’t see the relevance.

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**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2013, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electrical-pollution-is-killing-you-all/654111/29 "2013-03-28T16:25:26Z")

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> [@jz78817](#):
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> I don’t get why some people worry about mobile phones when we’ve been practically bathed in radio transmissions for a long-ass time.

Like, for example, the entire history of life on this planet? The history of our use of Radio Frequency EM has been a continuing attempt at developing technologies to pull actual signal out of the naturally occurring noise.

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**Author:** ![CannyDan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cannydan/32/548_2.png) [@CannyDan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CannyDan)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2013, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electrical-pollution-is-killing-you-all/654111/30 "2013-03-28T16:40:20Z")

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> [@Simplicio](#):
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> Does the person who made that website advocate against the dangers of celphone radiation? If not, I don’t see the relevance.

I have no idea what else that website’s owner may or may not believe. But I don’t think I’m stretching the limits of credibility when I suggest that believers in one form of woo have a high likelihood of believing in other forms of woo. It’s the Pit, not GQ. Are you really looking for a further cite? I’ve provided evidence that at least \*some \*whackjobs do not “wear sunscreen, sunglasses and get their moles checked the same as just about everyone else” (emphasis mine). Which I think supports my original contention.

Are you quibbling about my use of the word “totally” in reference to ignore? Will it comfort you if I substitute “mostly”? I suspect, depending on the individual woo believer, either of these may be applicable.

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**Author:** ![Katriona](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/katriona/32/113_2.png) [@Katriona](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Katriona)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2013, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electrical-pollution-is-killing-you-all/654111/31 "2013-03-28T16:43:12Z")

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Well, this was just disappointing. I read the thread title as “Electoral Pollution.”

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2013, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electrical-pollution-is-killing-you-all/654111/32 "2013-03-28T16:55:46Z")

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I think I see a business opportunity here. Is there any product on the market that will “filter” the bad EM radiation out, and perhaps another one that you can hook up to your electrical system that will “clean” the electricity before it enters your home?

I mean, I know that people use home-made remedies like copper pots, wrapping themselves in foil, etc., but there is really no substitute for an expensive, nifty looking product with flashing lights is there?

I think this could be worth a lot.

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**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2013, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electrical-pollution-is-killing-you-all/654111/33 "2013-03-28T17:02:09Z")

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> [@CannyDan](#):
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> I have no idea what else that website’s owner may or may not believe. But I don’t think I’m stretching the limits of credibility when I suggest that believers in one form of woo have a high likelihood of believing in other forms of woo. It’s the Pit, not GQ. Are you really looking for a further cite? I’ve provided evidence that at least \*some \*whackjobs do not “wear sunscreen, sunglasses and get their moles checked the same as just about everyone else” (emphasis mine). Which I think supports my original contention.

“Wack-jobs” in your original post pretty clearly meant “people that advocate the dangers of celphone radiation”, not just any advocate of any BS medical theory. Pointing out that one group of people says something that contradicts what another group of people say doesn’t really provide much of an argument against the first group.

There isn’t any indication that people who fear celphone radiation ignore the risks from the sun (and even if they did, I’m not sure that would be much of a point against them). Worrying about celphone radiation is stupid, but so is the OP’s attempt at arguing against such worries.

> [@Euphonious](#):
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> I think I see a business opportunity here. Is there any product on the market that will “filter” the bad EM radiation out, and perhaps another one that you can hook up to your electrical system that will “clean” the electricity before it enters your home?

I knew a guy that was paranoid about this sort of stuff, and bought various gadgets to detect E&M fields and minimize the emissions from appliances. So someone is making a bunch of money off of this. (and to be fair, so far as I could tell, the gadgets did do what they said they would, so I guess its not really fraud, even though the health benefits from minimizing radiation don’t exist).

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2013, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electrical-pollution-is-killing-you-all/654111/34 "2013-03-28T17:05:21Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> I think I see a business opportunity here. Is there any product on the market that will “filter” the bad EM radiation out, and perhaps another one that you can hook up to your electrical system that will “clean” the electricity before it enters your home?
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> I mean, I know that people use home-made remedies like copper pots, wrapping themselves in foil, etc., but there is really no substitute for an expensive, nifty looking product with flashing lights is there?
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> I think this could be worth a lot.

From the link in post #5 and quoted by me in post #9:

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> We installed RF filters

Apparently it’s being done.

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2013, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electrical-pollution-is-killing-you-all/654111/35 "2013-03-28T18:05:09Z")

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> [@Simplicio](#):
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> Heh, you jump on that instead of the 6000 years thing? But **Folacin** is obviously being factious.

You and your facts have no place at this table, sir.

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**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2013, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electrical-pollution-is-killing-you-all/654111/36 "2013-03-28T18:16:33Z")

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> [@Darth\_Panda](#):
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> You and your facts have no place at this table, sir.

I think facetious is my most frequently misspelled word. Not sure why.

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