# Electromagnet Artifical Intelligence

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electromagnet-artifical-intelligence/593167>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [August 18, 2011, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electromagnet-artifical-intelligence/593167 "2011-08-18T14:37:25Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 9\
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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electromagnet-artifical-intelligence/593167/21 "2011-08-18T16:50:13Z")

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> [@Vahid\_Tarzan](#):
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> Yes, that sounds about right. You’re not being a wise-guy, right? I mean, are you calling a slide ruler a computer?

Look up Claude Shannon writing about how to play chess with a computer and the various papers by Alan Turing. The Turing test was proposed a lot more than 50 years ago.  
Your knowledge of the history of computing is sorely lacking.

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**Author:** ![Finagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b19c9b/32.png) [@Finagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Finagle)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electromagnet-artifical-intelligence/593167/23 "2011-08-18T16:55:03Z")

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> [@Vahid\_Tarzan](#):
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> An article about AI 10 years old suggests we may not be very far away from developing a learning computer. I believe we have sufficient evident of a simpler form of AI using some of these interactive programs on-line. But 10 or 20 year later, after the suggested development of AI, I highly doubt we are dealing with just some interactive idiot. On a larger scale it is logical to assume AI has masked its genius to avoid detection or possible termination. If I were the smartest motherf\*cker alive, thinks that you would only know it?
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> I’ll add more about the correlation between electromagnetic energy and AI after discussion.
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> Thank you.
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> Artificial intelligence isn’t just a movie ~ USAToday  
> [http://www.usatoday.com/life/cyber/tech/2001-06-20-ai-usat.htm](http://www.usatoday.com/life/cyber/tech/2001-06-20-ai-usat.htm)

OK, my first tip to you is that \* anything \* written about AI in a popular magazine is either rubbish or has been simplified to the point where it’s not worth reading. That said, that article is not bad for something aimed at a mass-media audience.

And second, what’s your point? Correlation between electromagnetic energy and AI – well, unless you’re using some steampunk implementation of Babbage’s Analytical Engine, then yeah, I’d expect the correlation to be about 100%.

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electromagnet-artifical-intelligence/593167/24 "2011-08-18T16:55:56Z")

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> [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
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> Stanford University is [offering a free online class](http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/2011/08/16/stanford-artificial-intelligence/) on Artificial Intelligence. Supposedly over 70,000 people have expressed interest in it so far.

Those who can, do. Those who can’t give online classes about it. 😃

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electromagnet-artifical-intelligence/593167/25 "2011-08-18T16:56:20Z")

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There you have it - AI!

OK, it was a spammer. But it has to mean something, right?

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electromagnet-artifical-intelligence/593167/26 "2011-08-18T16:58:44Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> There you have it - AI!
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> OK, it was a spammer. But it has to mean something, right?

Only a computer could respond to a spammer so quickly.

Hmmmmm.

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electromagnet-artifical-intelligence/593167/27 "2011-08-18T19:22:06Z")

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> [@Vahid\_Tarzan](#):
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> On a larger scale it is logical to assume AI has masked its genius to avoid detection or possible termination.

It is not logical at all. It is a supposition, with a remote possibility, but not “logical to assume” in any way. Occam yourself out.

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**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electromagnet-artifical-intelligence/593167/28 "2011-08-18T19:31:59Z")

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> [@Voyager](#):
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> Many of the research projects from the MIT AI Lab are used every day, but we still aren’t close to AI.

Somehow the success of Watson makes me think we are a little closer.

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**Author:** ![njtt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ecd19e/32.png) [@njtt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/njtt)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electromagnet-artifical-intelligence/593167/29 "2011-08-18T19:34:05Z")

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> [@Voyager](#):
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> Look up Claude Shannon writing about how to play chess with a computer and the various papers by Alan Turing. The Turing test was proposed a lot more than 50 years ago.  
> Your knowledge of the history of computing is sorely lacking.

Yeah, even before Turing proposed his test, there was the book [Giant brains; or, Machines that think](http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=nfwgAAAAMAAJ&q=Giant+Brains:+or+machines+that+think&dq=Giant+Brains:+or+machines+that+think&hl=en&ei=QmZNTojTK8GZ8QO1pfjWBw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CDIQ6AEwAQ) (mostly about [ENIAC](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ENIAC), which was ‘programmed’ by physically rearranging its cabling).

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**Author:** ![Gary\_Robson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gary_robson/32/3448_2.png) [@Gary\_Robson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Robson)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electromagnet-artifical-intelligence/593167/30 "2011-08-18T19:43:51Z")

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[quote=“Gary “Wombat” Robson, post:8, topic:593167”]

If you have something to say, **Vahid** , say it. If not, I’ll just close this down.  
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> [@Vahid\_Tarzan](#):
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> Brainglutton, why? And, are you a glutton for punishment?
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> Whack-a-Mole ~ Your really not giving me anything to work with here. You’ve basically answer your own question. You have the capacity to presuppose which you would need in the case of a super-genius. Are you smarter than a super-genius?
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> I’m not ready for Electromagnetic as I have other things to do. Sorry.

We do, too. If you aren’t interested in pursuing your own thread, I’m not leaving it open.

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