# Electronic tracking: new constraint for Saudi women. **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [November 23, 2012, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electronic-tracking-new-constraint-for-saudi-women/641913 "2012-11-23T17:04:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![kanicbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@kanicbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kanicbird)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2012, 12:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electronic-tracking-new-constraint-for-saudi-women/641913/21 "2012-11-24T12:07:15Z")
Does it give the women more freedom to travel? If so perhaps this is a program will end up with the opposite effect. Which is worse, being denied travel or allowed to travel with tracking? I’m sure that this program will allow more women to be able to travel and interact with others, and that seems like a good step. Oppression of women has been very ingrained into that society, and it would be difficult for things to change instantly (much like black oppression after slavery was abolished - it took perhaps 100 years for most of the outright discrimination againt blacks to end), but just perhaps this bit of technology will allow a healing of that rift, enable men to trust and respect women more. And with technology changing a lot quicker then it did during slavery, hopefully and prayerfully that process can be speeded up. -IMHO Peace ---
**Author:** ![Ellen\_Cherry](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellen_cherry/32/3600_2.png) [@Ellen\_Cherry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellen_Cherry)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2012, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electronic-tracking-new-constraint-for-saudi-women/641913/22 "2012-11-24T14:01:33Z")
> [@taskmgr.exe](#): > > Disrespectful whelp. I believe you wrote that out of anger. You’re right to be angry. Authority in Arab World tend to be backwards, and deserve offensive words. But that doesn’t mean you can offend anyone from Arab countries, or living in Arab counties. That’s not nice. Don’t call people whelps, taskmgr.exe; name-calling is against the rules in this forum and all forums except the barbecue pit. ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2012, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electronic-tracking-new-constraint-for-saudi-women/641913/23 "2012-11-24T14:36:01Z")
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**Author:** ![taskmgr.exe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d9b06d/32.png) [@taskmgr.exe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/taskmgr.exe)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2012, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electronic-tracking-new-constraint-for-saudi-women/641913/24 "2012-11-26T14:22:39Z")
> [@Ellen\_Cherry](#): > > Don’t call people whelps, taskmgr.exe; name-calling is against the rules in this forum and all forums except the barbecue pit. OK. Insulting Arabs is OK but counter-attacking these insults is not okay. Got it. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2012, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electronic-tracking-new-constraint-for-saudi-women/641913/25 "2012-11-26T14:29:09Z")
> [@taskmgr.exe](#): > > OK. Insulting Arabs is OK but counter-attacking these insults is not okay. Got it. You can’t insult members of this board. Everyone else is fair game. ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2012, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electronic-tracking-new-constraint-for-saudi-women/641913/26 "2012-11-26T14:32:42Z")
> [@taskmgr.exe](#): > > OK. Insulting Arabs is OK but counter-attacking these insults is not okay. Got it. Yes because the entire Saudi community is not on this board. If she had said YOU had a tiny dick, she would have been warned, and rightfully so. Just because you are Arab (if you are) and she says “Arabs have tiny dicks” doesn’t mean anything, unless she said it right after you said you were Arab. I came to post that your supposedly helpful little comment was less than. You can’t call people a “disrespectful whelp” and then tell them “that’s not nice” like they were three. Well, you can, but they won’t listen. And there’s nothing stopping any of us from insulting all Saudi men, who keep their women prisoner and slaves because they have dicks. ---
**Author:** ![taskmgr.exe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d9b06d/32.png) [@taskmgr.exe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/taskmgr.exe)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2012, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electronic-tracking-new-constraint-for-saudi-women/641913/27 "2012-11-26T14:36:57Z")
> [@Anaamika](#): > > Yes because the entire Saudi community is not on this board. If she had said YOU had a tiny dick, she would have been warned, and rightfully so. Just because you are Arab (if you are) and she says “Arabs have tiny dicks” doesn’t mean anything, unless she said it right after you said you were Arab. > > I came to post that your supposedly helpful little comment was less than. You can’t call people a “disrespectful whelp” and then tell them “that’s not nice” like they were three. Well, you can, but they won’t listen. And there’s nothing stopping any of us from insulting all Saudi men, who keep their women prisoner and slaves because they have dicks. Yeaaaaaaaaah, **Anaamika**. Indeed. Annihilate those brown and ugly terrorist Arabs. BUHAHAHAHA! ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2012, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electronic-tracking-new-constraint-for-saudi-women/641913/28 "2012-11-26T14:52:28Z")
That’s very mature. If you cannot deal with us like an adult I don’t see you as fit to discuss with. Unlike others on this board I am not content to keep banging my head on a brick wall hoping it will learn. ---
**Author:** ![Lochdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/edb3f5/32.png) [@Lochdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lochdale)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2012, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electronic-tracking-new-constraint-for-saudi-women/641913/29 "2012-11-26T14:56:45Z")
> [@taskmgr.exe](#): > > Yeaaaaaaaaah, **Anaamika**. Indeed. Annihilate those brown and ugly terrorist Arabs. BUHAHAHAHA! Saudi Arabia is a misogynistic, backwards country. Were I an Arab I would be ashamed of it. I hope you are too. ---
**Author:** ![taskmgr.exe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d9b06d/32.png) [@taskmgr.exe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/taskmgr.exe)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2012, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electronic-tracking-new-constraint-for-saudi-women/641913/30 "2012-11-26T14:57:31Z")
> [@Anaamika](#): > > That’s very mature. If you cannot deal with us like an adult I don’t see you as fit to discuss with. Unlike others on this board I am not content to keep banging my head on a brick wall hoping it will learn. What is written there is still offensive to me. I really can’t understand how you can call it non-offensive. Unbelievable. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2012, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electronic-tracking-new-constraint-for-saudi-women/641913/31 "2012-11-26T15:00:11Z")
They’re already prepared to go to school in Texas: > **[The case of the Texas child-tracker](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=673284)** > > This is a really odd story, wanted some opinions on it - an independent high school district in San Antonio, Texas implemented a policy whereby all students have to wear an ID badge with a radio tracker in it, the idea being that it would be easier... ---
**Author:** ![taskmgr.exe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d9b06d/32.png) [@taskmgr.exe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/taskmgr.exe)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2012, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electronic-tracking-new-constraint-for-saudi-women/641913/32 "2012-11-26T15:00:24Z")
> [@Lochdale](#): > > Saudi Arabia is a misogynistic, backwards country. Were I an Arab I would be ashamed of it. I hope you are too. I think you didn’t read my post. > [@taskmgr.exe](#): > > Disrespectful whelp. I believe you wrote that out of anger. You’re right to be angry. **Authority in Arab World tend to be backwards** , and deserve offensive words. But that doesn’t mean you can offend anyone from Arab countries, or living in Arab counties. That’s not nice. Yes, I feel ashamed. ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2012, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electronic-tracking-new-constraint-for-saudi-women/641913/33 "2012-11-26T15:09:58Z")
> [@taskmgr.exe](#): > > What is written there is still offensive to me. I really can’t understand how you can call it non-offensive. Unbelievable. What, that Saudis keep their women prisoner merely because they have penises? Is that better? I didn’t call them dicks, I just pointed out that was the reasoning. I have no interest in annihilating Arab countries. I have no interest in annihilating anyone. I remember they are human, which is something Saudis don’t seem to be doing for their women. And please remember I am specifically referring to Saudis. Stop extrapolating to all Arabs. ---
**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2012, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electronic-tracking-new-constraint-for-saudi-women/641913/34 "2012-11-26T15:16:34Z")
> [@taskmgr.exe](#): > > What is written there is still offensive to me. So? ---
**Author:** ![taskmgr.exe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d9b06d/32.png) [@taskmgr.exe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/taskmgr.exe)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2012, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electronic-tracking-new-constraint-for-saudi-women/641913/35 "2012-11-26T15:18:26Z")
> [@AClockworkMelon](#): > > So? So don’t offend people please. ---
**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2012, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electronic-tracking-new-constraint-for-saudi-women/641913/36 "2012-11-26T15:19:07Z")
> [@taskmgr.exe](#): > > Disrespectful whelp. I believe you wrote that out of anger. You’re right to be angry. Authority in Arab World tend to be backwards, and deserve offensive words. But that doesn’t mean you can offend anyone from Arab countries, or living in Arab counties. That’s not nice. Whelp? What’s next? Wench? Missy? Girlie? Since when are Saudi men all Arab men? Saudi men treat women like cattle. If they wanted to change these disgusting laws they could. Until they do anything with a vagina should stay away from them. Why would any sane grown woman want to be around a man who was comfortable with laws turning mature adult women into seven year olds in need of constant direct supervision? ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2012, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electronic-tracking-new-constraint-for-saudi-women/641913/37 "2012-11-26T15:21:23Z")
Seven year olds have more autonomy! I thank my lucky stars every time I hear about more atrocities in Saudi Arabia that I wasn’t born there, that I was born in India, which while it has its problems, welcomes girl children far more. ---
**Author:** ![taskmgr.exe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d9b06d/32.png) [@taskmgr.exe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/taskmgr.exe)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2012, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electronic-tracking-new-constraint-for-saudi-women/641913/38 "2012-11-26T15:26:01Z")
> [@LavenderBlue](#): > > Whelp? What’s next? Wench? Missy? Girlie? > > Since when are Saudi men all Arab men? Saudi men treat women like cattle. If they wanted to change these disgusting laws they could. Until they do anything with a vagina should stay away from them. Why would any sane grown woman want to be around a man who was comfortable with laws turning mature adult women into seven year olds in need of constant direct supervision? You talk as if insulting Saudis is OK but insulting Arabs is not OK. > [@LavenderBlue](#): > > Saudi men treat women like cattle. I don’t do that. You’re still overgeneralizing. ---
**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2012, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electronic-tracking-new-constraint-for-saudi-women/641913/39 "2012-11-26T15:34:31Z")
> [@taskmgr.exe](#): > > You talk as if insulting Saudis is OK but insulting Arabs is not OK. > > I don’t do that. You’re still overgeneralizing. I’m perfectly comfortable with insulting a society where women are treated like children. It’s not overgeneralizing to express disgust at a such a country. Saudi laws on women insult all women everywhere. As a woman and the mother of two daughters why shouldn’t I take offense at such laws and the men who refuse to change them? ---
**Author:** ![taskmgr.exe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d9b06d/32.png) [@taskmgr.exe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/taskmgr.exe)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2012, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electronic-tracking-new-constraint-for-saudi-women/641913/40 "2012-11-26T15:51:40Z")
> [@LavenderBlue](#): > > I’m perfectly comfortable with insulting a society where women are treated like children. It’s not overgeneralizing to express disgust at a such a country. Saudi laws on women insult all women everywhere. As a woman and the mother of two daughters why shouldn’t I take offense at such laws and the men who refuse to change them? So why do you insult me? I am no longer living in Arab countries. But it really hurts me when someone thinks all Arabs are misogynist and backwards. Do I deserve feeling so bad by your insults, just because I come from the same country with these backwards people? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electronic-tracking-new-constraint-for-saudi-women/641913.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/electronic-tracking-new-constraint-for-saudi-women/641913.md?page=3)