# Elementary Kids Sing Obama Indoctrination Song **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 26, 2009, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elementary-kids-sing-obama-indoctrination-song/511623 "2009-09-26T04:36:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![CannyDan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cannydan/32/548_2.png) [@CannyDan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CannyDan)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2009, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elementary-kids-sing-obama-indoctrination-song/511623/181 "2009-09-28T20:21:50Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Not so. It was 1968 when the destruction of America _began_. It’s been a decades-long process. 😃 > > …people didn’t actually start to become the beligerent, accusatory, poorly dressed and ill-behaved (and to a considerable degree, drug-using) assholes they are today until circa 1968. > > But of course all that was necessary to undo racism. :rolleyes: Having been a part of that “process” since that very time, all I can say is thank you, thank you very much. Oh, and it wasn’t just institutionalized racism that got undone. There were a few other inconsequential societal issues being dealt with too. It was in all the papers. But you knew that already, didn’t you? So you only act like this in private conversations (or anonymous ones), not in public, huh? Wise move. Limits the odds of having your head handed back to you by someone. “Asshole”, am I? Where’s the smiley face for that crack? ---
**Author:** ![Algorithm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/algorithm/32/12204_2.png) [@Algorithm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Algorithm)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2009, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elementary-kids-sing-obama-indoctrination-song/511623/182 "2009-09-28T20:38:25Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > That’s because, contrary to many of my liberal brethren, I don’t act that way out in public. I regard this as more of a private conversation. Just what the fuck does “in public” mean, then? Do people yell and call you names on the street because you are politically conservative? ---
**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2009, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elementary-kids-sing-obama-indoctrination-song/511623/183 "2009-09-28T21:32:10Z")
> [@Evil\_One](#): > > I hadn’t heard about this since I’m not on the RNC mailing list. I’m not surprised given the current political tone. Both the DNC and the RNC do this sort of thing when then presented the opportunity. > > There is a difference in singing TO the president (being invited to the White House qualifiies in this case whether he’s in the room or not) and being taught a song ABOUT the president. There’s also a difference between indoctrination and celebrating a truly momentous event during black history month. This is much ado about nothing unless you have context which provides other incriminating evidence. We’ve got to stop using this petty crap as a distraction from serious issues. Check out the film Jesus Camp where the kids pray to a cutout of GWB. That’ll turn your stomach, but it’s still petty crap that deserves no notice other than morbid curiosity and feelings of sympathy for those poor kids. Now that’s some serious indoctrination. ---
**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2009, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elementary-kids-sing-obama-indoctrination-song/511623/184 "2009-09-28T21:35:11Z")
> [@Algorithm](#): > > This thread is the absolute best example of the stupid, shitty justifications people use for their stupid, shitty, partisan behavior. > > I fucking hate everyone in this thread, including myself for now having participated in it. > You stupid bastards really need to get over the mentality of using someone’s loose political affiliation with others who’ve committed condemnable acts to justify being a fucktard to them and everyone around them with similar political beliefs. I never voted for Bush, but took several of my friends to task for being idiots and blindly believing bullshit partisan smears. > > This thread is insulting to people who at least try to maintain a measure of fairness and rationality when it comes to politics, because you hacks will _presume_ hypocrisy in anyone with an apparently opposing political philosophy, and when a reasonable person actually does come along, and happens to condemn someone on side X of the political fence, all they hear in response is “side Y did it too”. Guess what, I condemned it then, too. And I voted for X. > > Fucking ridiculous. Well if it makes you feel any better I’ll try to hate you back. :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:😕:dubious:😃 nope, gave it my best shot and couldn’t do it. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2009, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elementary-kids-sing-obama-indoctrination-song/511623/185 "2009-09-28T21:46:37Z")
“Kumbama, my Lord, kumbama…” Hang on! We’ll do “Michelle, Row the Boat Ashore” next! ---
**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2009, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elementary-kids-sing-obama-indoctrination-song/511623/186 "2009-09-28T22:35:54Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > “Kumbama, my Lord, kumbama…” > > Hang on! We’ll do “Michelle, Row the Boat Ashore” next! Not familiar with that one but we used to sing My Goat Knows the Bowling scores Hallelujah! 2nd verse ; Sid’s new hair is in the mail Hallelujah! Okay everybody hold hands ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2009, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elementary-kids-sing-obama-indoctrination-song/511623/187 "2009-09-30T03:01:29Z")
[http://www.atlargely.com/atlargely/2009/09/indoctrination-vs-propaganda-bush-fema-and-singing-katrina-kids.html](http://www.atlargely.com/atlargely/2009/09/indoctrination-vs-propaganda-bush-fema-and-singing-katrina-kids.html) The children in New Orleans spontaneously sung this song for Bush. Of course it was not scripted. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2009, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elementary-kids-sing-obama-indoctrination-song/511623/188 "2009-10-13T02:11:01Z")
Proving that nothing is so old, so outdated, or so lame that they don’t think it needs protesting, [I give you this](http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=news/local&id=7060094)! > [@](#): > > About 70 protesters stood on a sidewalk across the street from the B. Bernice Young School waving flags and homemade placards, singing “God Bless America” and “The Battle Hymn of the Republic,” and chanting slogans such as “No indoctrination” and “Free children, free minds.” > > A smaller group of counter-protesters watched and occasionally heckled them. “[We are idiots](http://memewatch.com/thelist/archives/pix/morans.jpg), and [we will not stop](http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/gawker/2008/05/english5.jpg)!” ---
**Author:** ![CannyDan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cannydan/32/548_2.png) [@CannyDan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CannyDan)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2009, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elementary-kids-sing-obama-indoctrination-song/511623/189 "2009-10-13T13:22:45Z")
Wow. Just wow. I’m so emotionally drained from constantly having to respond to another hysterically screamed claim that **“The end of the world is upon us!!”** (Trademark, Rightards dot com) that I just can’t respond any more. Think I’ll go have a lie down… ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2009, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elementary-kids-sing-obama-indoctrination-song/511623/190 "2009-10-13T13:31:39Z")
[The idea of Obama](http://www.salon.com/comics/tomo/2009/10/13/tomo/) strikes again! ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2009, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elementary-kids-sing-obama-indoctrination-song/511623/191 "2009-10-13T14:23:56Z")
I voted for Kodos. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2009, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elementary-kids-sing-obama-indoctrination-song/511623/192 "2009-10-13T14:26:37Z")
You \*think \*you voted for Kodos, but you actually voted for Hypno Toad. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2009, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elementary-kids-sing-obama-indoctrination-song/511623/193 "2009-10-13T14:31:58Z")
They also sang a song about Abraham Lincoln. A fucking Republican! ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2009, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elementary-kids-sing-obama-indoctrination-song/511623/194 "2009-10-13T14:33:15Z")
All glory to the Hypnotoad! ---
**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2009, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elementary-kids-sing-obama-indoctrination-song/511623/195 "2009-10-13T14:49:57Z")
For all those playing catch up on the outrage and looking to determine what they should be so angry about it was a song, sung once, in a school assembly that also featured songs about other Presidents, using lyrics given ahead of time to the parents of the students and with nary a word of protest before, during or after the assembly (up until the time it was released as a video to the world). Oh, and the teacher in charge has retired making it unlikely an encore performance will ensue. Did I miss anything? Because I’m outraged at my lack of outrage. ---
**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2009, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elementary-kids-sing-obama-indoctrination-song/511623/196 "2009-10-13T14:54:15Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > They also sang a song about Abraham Lincoln. > > A fucking Republican! Apparently some people never went to elementary school, or at least not one that put on performances. There were all kinds of songs about George Washington. Goddamn Federalists! ---
**Author:** ![Blalron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/35a633/32.png) [@Blalron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blalron)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2009, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elementary-kids-sing-obama-indoctrination-song/511623/197 "2009-10-13T15:33:10Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > That’s because, contrary to many of my liberal brethren, I don’t act that way out in public. I regard this as more of a private conversation. > > Still, the effect has happened to all of society. Conservatives and kids with no particular political affiliation have been Jerry Springerized right along with everyone else. Are “liberals” responsible for this? Or is it the corporate owned media, which just so happens to sell whatever gets ratings, regardless of how crass and vulgar it is? It’s corporate execs, who get together and look at the Nielson ratings, who decide on TV content, not some secret liberal conspiracy! I’ve never seen anything resembling Jerry Springer on PBS. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2009, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elementary-kids-sing-obama-indoctrination-song/511623/198 "2009-10-13T15:47:45Z")
This is an Obama plot. When these kids are old enough to vote they will be programmed to vote for him. That is the aim. But Obama will be long, long gone. That is a pretty bad plot. The song mentions Obama is the first black pres. Was that being kept from the kids? Is this information their parent have a right to suppress from their brood? It is a little about equal right. Is that something kids should not be taught about? It is harmless . ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2009, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elementary-kids-sing-obama-indoctrination-song/511623/199 "2009-10-14T01:48:46Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > You won’t shoot them, right? They are small and fast. Very hard to hit. I’m just kidding! :eek: ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2009, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elementary-kids-sing-obama-indoctrination-song/511623/200 "2009-10-14T02:54:28Z")
> [@ladyfoxfyre](#): > > Obamunchkins? Damn, now I’m going to imagine them all dressed up like donut holes. They gotta have a theme song. Weeeeeeee (pause) represent the lllollipop guild the lllollipop guild the lllollipop guild [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elementary-kids-sing-obama-indoctrination-song/511623.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elementary-kids-sing-obama-indoctrination-song/511623.md?page=11)