# Elementary Kids Sing Obama Indoctrination Song **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 26, 2009, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elementary-kids-sing-obama-indoctrination-song/511623 "2009-09-26T04:36:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Blalron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/35a633/32.png) [@Blalron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blalron)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2009, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elementary-kids-sing-obama-indoctrination-song/511623/101 "2009-09-26T20:51:02Z")
> [@CBS NEWS](#): > > RNC Chair Michael Steele [writes](http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/09/25/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry5339718.shtml) that the video shows “the indoctrination of our nation’s greatest treasure – our children.” > > “Friend, this is the type of propaganda you would see in Stalin’s Russia or Kim Jong Il’s North Korea,” Steele writes. “I never thought the day would come when I’d see it here in America.” The Right Wing noise machine must be running out of material. Seriously, is this the best you’ve got? All I’ve seen out of the GOP lately is either blatantly making shit up (like “death panels”) or making Mount Everest sized mountains out of molehills. I hope the GOP keeps getting crushed in elections, over and over again, until they finally wise up and become a responsible opposition party. But as it stands now, they’re just batshit crazy. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2009, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elementary-kids-sing-obama-indoctrination-song/511623/102 "2009-09-26T20:59:03Z")
Hell, its gotten so you can’t even make fun of them anymore, you can’t keep up! Two years ago, if I had suggested that anyone would be saying the kind of stuff Michelle Bachmann (R-Guano) says, I would have got roundly dumped upon by tighty righty and loony left alike. Plus, I don’t have a good enough imagination to make up shit like that! ---
**Author:** ![Raygun99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Raygun99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raygun99)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2009, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elementary-kids-sing-obama-indoctrination-song/511623/103 "2009-09-26T21:06:41Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > **Sam** , what the hell has got into you? I’m serious, here, not messin’. I mean it, what the bleeding fuck has gotten into you! You never used to pull crap like this, you were always reliably conservative, but you put up a fair fight, never hit below the belt. Well, hardly ever. > > Lately, that’s all blown away, like you’d been replaced by somebody far less reasonable and far more bitter. You never shrank from sharp words, but lately you’re just plain nasty! > > I want \*\*Sam Stone \*\*back. I like him, and I don’t much like you. You know, I wasn’t going to say anything, since the thread’s not about Sam, but I really concur with this. I’m not the most active member of this board, but there’s a number of posters I follow, particularly the Canadian denizens of the board, and in the last year, it really does seem like you’ve turned some sort of wild corner, Sam. And it’s not that I’m attacking you from a partisan standpoint - I’ve voted for Stockwell Day, for pete’s sake - it’s that I see you posting things that are just transparently proven false and paranoid. Is this extended performance theatre in the “taste of their own medicine” category? I saw you post about how Fox News was to your distaste - how do you not see that all these manufactured outrages are coming from that same noise machine (of which Fox is a part of, but not entire)? ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2009, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elementary-kids-sing-obama-indoctrination-song/511623/104 "2009-09-26T21:10:57Z")
Children are our nation’s greatest treasure? Right. Tried to sell one on Craigslist lately? You can’t \*give \*them away. ---
**Author:** ![Blalron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/35a633/32.png) [@Blalron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blalron)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2009, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elementary-kids-sing-obama-indoctrination-song/511623/105 "2009-09-26T21:12:56Z")
I think a good question for someone of any political or moral persuasion to ask himself when he stumbles upon a news story: Many, many bad things happen in this country, and throughout the world. Considering this fact, is this particular unpleasant news item worthy of my outrage, or is there something more important I could be focusing on? ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2009, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elementary-kids-sing-obama-indoctrination-song/511623/106 "2009-09-26T21:44:40Z")
> [@Raygun99](#): > > You know, I wasn’t going to say anything, since the thread’s not about Sam, but I really concur with this. I’m not the most active member of this board, but there’s a number of posters I follow, particularly the Canadian denizens of the board, and in the last year, it really does seem like you’ve turned some sort of wild corner, Sam. And it’s not that I’m attacking you from a partisan standpoint - I’ve voted for Stockwell Day, for pete’s sake - it’s that I see you posting things that are just transparently proven false and paranoid. Is this extended performance theatre in the “taste of their own medicine” category? > > I saw you post about how Fox News was to your distaste - how do you not see that all these manufactured outrages are coming from that same noise machine (of which Fox is a part of, but not entire)? [Seconded.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11593486#post11593486) ---
**Author:** ![CannyDan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cannydan/32/548_2.png) [@CannyDan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CannyDan)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2009, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elementary-kids-sing-obama-indoctrination-song/511623/107 "2009-09-26T21:51:39Z")
So I was completely, totally 100% right about this. > [@Christopher Manno](#): > > The song was one of eight skits performed during a February 2009 program that included second grade classes. Parents attended the program which took place on February 27, 2009. The other skits in the program included Groundhog Day, Chinese New Year, Abraham Lincoln, Valentine’s Day, George Washington, Mardi Gras, and Dental Health Month. The song about President Obama was in recognition of Black History Month. It was shortly after the inauguration, in recognition of Black History Month, and part of a program of other performances. Just as I expected. What I did not know, but which seems to justify my distinct lack of outrage, is that apparently none of the people actually involved found it objectionable. > [@Christopher Manno](#): > > We have been informed that the lyrics of the song were sent home with the children in advance of the assembly, which was the teacher’s normal procedure. There were no concerns or complaints prior to, during, or after the program. The school district’s present concerns focus on the _ **privacy of the children** _, not on any fears of “indoctrination”. The right’s ability to manufacture outrage about this is only another demonstration of their bankruptcy of ideas and issues. Bloviating vicious and duplicitous nonsense is all the right has to cling to, now that their world has been turned uppside down. Disgusting. ---
**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2009, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elementary-kids-sing-obama-indoctrination-song/511623/108 "2009-09-26T22:15:19Z")
> [@Evil\_One](#): > > Teaching childen who are barely continent in public to sing the praises of a specific leader of a country is what they do in places like North Korea. [O RLY](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wE2WEJ6BX8U)? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2009, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elementary-kids-sing-obama-indoctrination-song/511623/109 "2009-09-26T22:21:07Z")
**Canny Dan**? Cite? Not doubting, just want to rub somebody’s nose…uh, want to share it. Yes, thats it! Share! ---
**Author:** ![Frostillicus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Frostillicus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frostillicus)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2009, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elementary-kids-sing-obama-indoctrination-song/511623/110 "2009-09-26T22:32:39Z")
Well, there goes next week’s lesson plans. ---
**Author:** ![ladyfoxfyre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@ladyfoxfyre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladyfoxfyre)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2009, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elementary-kids-sing-obama-indoctrination-song/511623/111 "2009-09-26T23:13:23Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > **Canny Dan**? Cite? Not doubting, just want to rub somebody’s nose…uh, want to share it. Yes, thats it! Share! [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11600349&postcount=95](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11600349&postcount=95) ---
**Author:** ![you\_with\_the\_face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecccb3/32.png) [@you\_with\_the\_face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/you_with_the_face)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2009, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elementary-kids-sing-obama-indoctrination-song/511623/112 "2009-09-26T23:32:19Z")
> [@Evil One](#): > > Teaching childen who are barely continent in public to sing the praises of a specific leader of a country is what they do in places like North Korea. For reals. Its a travesty too that I’m forced to look at Washington’s ugly mug every time I pay with cash. I hate that slave-owning motherfucker. Lincoln, Franklin, and JFK too. I shudder to think that innocent children pay for their candy in money soiled with the likeliness of folks I had no hand in electing and whose politics offend me. What are we teaching them? That people like Jefferson were _heroes_?! When I have kids, I’m making them go to school on President’s day. Fuck all them motherfucking leaders who think they can make _my_ unborn babies pay them respect. Fuck 'em with the shovels used to bury them. We are not in Cuba, dammit. ---
**Author:** ![Nars\_Glinley](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nars_glinley/32/8177_2.png) [@Nars\_Glinley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nars_Glinley)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2009, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elementary-kids-sing-obama-indoctrination-song/511623/113 "2009-09-26T23:36:40Z")
> [@Shayna](#): > > [O RLY](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wE2WEJ6BX8U)? That is obviously a private school. It is also extremely creepy. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2009, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elementary-kids-sing-obama-indoctrination-song/511623/114 "2009-09-26T23:39:14Z")
> [@ladyfoxfyre](#): > > [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11600349&postcount=95](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11600349&postcount=95) Well, no wonder I missed it, it was over there… ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2009, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elementary-kids-sing-obama-indoctrination-song/511623/115 "2009-09-26T23:41:15Z")
Say, where’d that little scamp of an OP get off to, anyway? ---
**Author:** ![ladyfoxfyre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@ladyfoxfyre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladyfoxfyre)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2009, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elementary-kids-sing-obama-indoctrination-song/511623/116 "2009-09-26T23:45:46Z")
Staying to debate after such evidence was revealed would have been in congruent with the original intent of the OP. After all, he already admitted he should have focused on the teacher in question and not attempted to catch the entire liberal population in a trap. Is “hypocrite hunting” a regular term we can use now? ---
**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2009, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elementary-kids-sing-obama-indoctrination-song/511623/117 "2009-09-26T23:50:11Z")
> [@Nars\_Glinley](#): > > That is obviously a private school. It is also extremely creepy. He didn’t say anything about the venue, just the activity in and of itself. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2009, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elementary-kids-sing-obama-indoctrination-song/511623/118 "2009-09-26T23:53:59Z")
> [@Raygun99](#): > > You know, I wasn’t going to say anything, since the thread’s not about Sam, but I really concur with this. I’m not the most active member of this board, but there’s a number of posters I follow, particularly the Canadian denizens of the board, and in the last year, it really does seem like you’ve turned some sort of wild corner, Sam. And it’s not that I’m attacking you from a partisan standpoint - I’ve voted for Stockwell Day, for pete’s sake - it’s that I see you posting things that are just transparently proven false and paranoid. Is this extended performance theatre in the “taste of their own medicine” category? > > I saw you post about how Fox News was to your distaste - how do you not see that all these manufactured outrages are coming from that same noise machine (of which Fox is a part of, but not entire)? So you have some examples of things I’ve posted that are transparently false? In this thread, I said that ACORN was supposed to receive 7 billion dollars from the stimulus. I did some searching, and it appears that the number was whittled down to 4.19 billion, specifically set aside in the stimulus for ‘neighborhood stabilization activities’. That money was originally supposed to go only to state and local governments, but Democrats changed the language to specifically allow the money to be dispersed to groups like ACORN. Here’s one [cite](http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2009/01/acorn_eligible_for_billions_fr.html). I also said that the NEA and the White House were politicizing the agency by asking artists to create specifically to advance the White House’s agenda. It appears that no one else here has heard of this. I find that very surprising, because the scandal has already [forced the resignation of the NEA’s communications director.](http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090925/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_nea_resignation_1) They also repeatedly lied about the call. First, they said that the ‘outreach’ wasn’t directed by the White House or the NEA, but by a third party. Then an E-mail surfaced from the NEA’s communications director, making it clear that he set it up. Then they said that there was ‘absolutely no attempt to ask artists to promote the President’s agenda’. Fortunately, one of the participants in the call was uncomfortable about it, and recorded it. The transcript specifically shows that the NEA and White House very specifically asked them to promote the administration’s agenda. This is not a wild conspiracy or a Fox News invention. Here’s [Jake Tapper’s](http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/09/after-inappropriate-nea-conference-call-white-house-pushes-new-guidelines.html) report, complete with an apology from the White House. Of course, they only had to apologize because they got caught. I was asked for a cite about Eric Holder’s dismissal of a case of voter intimidation against the Black Panthers. [Here it is.](http://www.mainjustice.com/2009/09/09/opr-opens-inquiry-into-black-panthers-case-dismissal/) > [@](#): > > **OPR Opens Inquiry Into Black Panthers Case Dismissal** > > The Department of Justice’s internal ethics watchdog is looking into the circumstances surrounding the dismissal in May of voter intimidation charges against members of the New Black Panther Party, a case that has sparked outrage from conservatives. The DOJ dismissed the case because they said they didn’t have enough evidence that voter intimidation occurred, which is ridiculous on its face since there is actual video of black panthers standing in front of a polling place tapping nightsticks in their hands and confronting people. And the government had already won a default judgment against them in federal court. As for Congress squashing corruption investigations, here’s one report from [Judicial Watch](http://www.judicialwatch.org/weeklyupdate/2009/36-why-nancy-pelosi-protecting-charlie-rangel). Charles Rangel is corrupt through and through. He’s been caught failing to report hundreds of thousands of dollars in income. He ‘forgot’ to pay $75,000 in taxes. He runs offices out of rent-controlled apartments in Manhattan he shouldn’t have. It apepars there are still investigations going on over John Murtha’s murky dealings, which is good, but the investigation into Chris “friend of Angelo” Dodd seems to have been killed. Anything else? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2009, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elementary-kids-sing-obama-indoctrination-song/511623/119 "2009-09-26T23:56:06Z")
Well, we tried. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2009, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elementary-kids-sing-obama-indoctrination-song/511623/120 "2009-09-27T00:08:00Z")
Jesus Marimba, **Sam** , you’ve gone from being overly partisan to flat out bullshit! You give us right-winger bloggers as cites, who are citing other right wing bloggers! You get to the actual nub of it, and there’s a big ol’ of cash that ACORN might have had a share in, or might not. And you tell us with a straight face its for ACORN? Are the rest of your stories as totally full of shit as this one? I’m just guessing here, but I’m ready to guess that the Black Panther thing is just about this lame. After all, your cite says “inquiry”. You do realize thats quite a bit short of “found guilty”, right? Jesus Tiberius Christ, **Sam,** what’s got into you? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elementary-kids-sing-obama-indoctrination-song/511623.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elementary-kids-sing-obama-indoctrination-song/511623.md?page=7)