# Elementary: New CBS Sherlock Series \[Season 1 thread\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 20, 2012, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elementary-new-cbs-sherlock-series-season-1-thread/625762 "2012-06-20T16:37:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![obfusciatrist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4af34b/32.png) [@obfusciatrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/obfusciatrist)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2012, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elementary-new-cbs-sherlock-series-season-1-thread/625762/181 "2012-12-01T19:23:29Z")
Well, also, once the bomb didn’t go off, why wouldn’t she just remove and dispose of it? ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2012, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elementary-new-cbs-sherlock-series-season-1-thread/625762/182 "2012-12-01T19:26:53Z")
He mentions at some point that she engineers a move to the other office to get away from the bomb, but that doesn’t really explain why she didn’t get it. I guess maybe she was afraid it would go off when handled. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2012, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elementary-new-cbs-sherlock-series-season-1-thread/625762/183 "2012-12-01T19:28:23Z")
> [@obfusciatrist](#): > > Well, also, once the bomb didn’t go off, why wouldn’t she just remove and dispose of it? a) since it was her first bomb, she just assumed she built it wrong and it would always be safe b) removing things like this is when people usually get caught - and potentially she could have set it off. For the pager question - yeah - why it was still active is a very good question - and I don’t really buy that this was the _first_ time that number had been mis-dialed. The only possible bit there is if it was due to the battery being unstable, etc that allowed this “third redial is the charm” to set it off. (2 years between setting the bomb and the tower being close enough to hit the pager, but in the remaining 2 years - no one else mis-dialed the number? or was it a new deli?) I liked how in this one episode - Holmes solved a 4 year old murder, the original ELM bombings and the current bombing (convenient that it was the same cuplrit, but anyway) - not your traditional mystery show at all. Button - bomb - button - bomb - see the similiarity? ---
**Author:** ![MoodIndigo1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e8c25b/32.png) [@MoodIndigo1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MoodIndigo1)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2012, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elementary-new-cbs-sherlock-series-season-1-thread/625762/184 "2012-12-01T19:36:02Z")
Alfredo is an interesting character, I hope he sticks around even if Watson stays beyond this contract. For reasons pointed out by **DMark** I found that pager thing hard to believe, so I stopped caring about the story. ---
**Author:** ![getitrite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47774/32.png) [@getitrite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/getitrite)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2012, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elementary-new-cbs-sherlock-series-season-1-thread/625762/185 "2012-12-01T21:27:03Z")
I think the point of this show may not be solving anything, It might be the relationships we create when we allow ourselves to interact with others. This is shown with the interactions of not only the main subjects of the story, but also the stories themselves. How a woman looses her husband and didn’t notice in the years a change of pictures, or a wall or mold? I also hope Alfredo stays around, to peak Sherlocks interest in different ways too. Holmes will never be a love interest. She will keep Sherlock on his toes and sometime the critic is the motivation needed for big ideas. ---
**Author:** ![obfusciatrist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4af34b/32.png) [@obfusciatrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/obfusciatrist)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2012, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elementary-new-cbs-sherlock-series-season-1-thread/625762/186 "2012-12-01T21:27:23Z")
> [@simster](#): > > a) since it was her first bomb, she just assumed she built it wrong and it would always be safe > b) removing things like this is when people usually get caught - and potentially she could have set it off. c) As owner of the space it would be extremely easy for her to manufacture solitude to retrieve the bomb (and discovery wouldn’t have been any riskier than putting it there). d) She still had to work several months in an office knowing there was a bomb nearby. e) She couldn’t guarantee that the unexploded bomb would not be discovered and in its unexploded state probably would have lead back to her much more easily. Probably would have only required the Law & Order guys and not the preturnatural Sherlock Holmes guy. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Controvert](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dec6dc/32.png) [@The\_Controvert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Controvert)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2012, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elementary-new-cbs-sherlock-series-season-1-thread/625762/187 "2012-12-02T01:02:39Z")
> [@getitrite](#): > > I also hope Alfredo stays around, to peak Sherlocks interest in different ways too. Sorry to be pedantic, but the post + username combo is too irresistible. The word is [pique](http://www.vocabulary.com/articles/chooseyourwords/peak-peek-pique/). ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2012, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elementary-new-cbs-sherlock-series-season-1-thread/625762/188 "2012-12-02T02:30:44Z")
> [@DMark](#): > > Regarding this week’s plot. > > So - a pager. Sure, why not. > But doesn’t someone have to PAY to keep that pager active, like a cell phone? > Why would someone continue to pay the phone bill for a pager that they obviously want to forget they ever put there in the first place? > So who was paying to keep this pager activated? I thought they said that the pager was prepaid, although I doubt she prepaid for three or more years of service. And I doubt the battery would have lasted that long. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2012, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elementary-new-cbs-sherlock-series-season-1-thread/625762/189 "2012-12-02T03:53:00Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > The idea that a few handfuls of the uneroded sand was freshly detectable by casual glance after being mixed into the regular sand, and further the fact that the sand looked fresh and new and frosted after being clumped up in gasoline and then exploded in a plane crash and got scattered about is pretty ridiculously implausible. Welcome to the world of Sherlock Holmes, where he is, always was, and always will be so ridiculously observant as to be implausible. It’s what I have always hated about the character because, especially in Conan Doyle’s not-especially-talented hands, there is no way for the reader/viewer to work out the mystery because Holmes is withholding evidence for the Big Reveal. I guess the “Bravo! You are so smart!” moment is something readers like, but I always assumed Watson wanted to stab him in his sleep. ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2012, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elementary-new-cbs-sherlock-series-season-1-thread/625762/190 "2012-12-02T13:01:36Z")
In the latest episode, when the new AA sponsor brings by a car at the end, what kind of car was that? ---
**Author:** ![ftg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ftg/32/2801_2.png) [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2012, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elementary-new-cbs-sherlock-series-season-1-thread/625762/191 "2012-12-02T14:07:38Z")
About triggering the bomb: The guy said he pressed redial twice more. So apparently 3 quick calls in succession was the trigger. It was also explained in-story that the firm had moved within days of when the victim went missing. So not a lot of time to retrieve the bomb, plus the guy was dead. The bomb was now Somebody Else’s Problem. Think of all the planning that went into making this bomb, but checking to see if the pager got a signal? Why bother? ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2012, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elementary-new-cbs-sherlock-series-season-1-thread/625762/192 "2012-12-02T14:53:48Z")
> [@ShibbOleth](#): > > In the latest episode, when the new AA sponsor brings by a car at the end, what kind of car was that? I think it was a Ferrari. ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2012, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elementary-new-cbs-sherlock-series-season-1-thread/625762/193 "2012-12-03T03:08:06Z")
> [@Infovore](#): > > Good to see Lisa Edelstein again after House. Wondering how she got the expertise to build the bomb, though. They explained how she knew how to refinish walls, but not how to build time bombs. Actually, they did explain. The environmentalist guy put plans on the internet. She looked up the plans. Easy-peasy. > [@DMark](#): > > Regarding this week’s plot. > > So - a pager. Sure, why not. > But doesn’t someone have to PAY to keep that pager active, like a cell phone? > Why would someone continue to pay the phone bill for a pager that they obviously want to forget they ever put there in the first place? > So who was paying to keep this pager activated? I’m fairly certain you are correct. A pager number has to be paid, or it gets reassigned. Furthermore, the battery would have gone dead long before. Even not taking any calls, it’s still putting out charge to the screen for time/date, and to stay monitoring for a call. I love how Sherlock is able to recognize a receiver and a transmitter on a circuit board. Is that plausible? My concern for the bit with Alfredo. Isn’t hiring a car theft addict to test your security systems like hiring an alcoholic to test if your cocktails are getting mixed right? ---
**Author:** ![obfusciatrist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4af34b/32.png) [@obfusciatrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/obfusciatrist)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2012, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elementary-new-cbs-sherlock-series-season-1-thread/625762/194 "2012-12-03T03:15:07Z")
I’d say it is more like hiring hackers to test your network security. ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2012, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elementary-new-cbs-sherlock-series-season-1-thread/625762/195 "2012-12-03T03:31:20Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > I think it was a Ferrari. I don’t think that it was. Which model of Ferrari do you think it was? ---
**Author:** ![zagloba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/977dab/32.png) [@zagloba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zagloba)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2012, 6:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elementary-new-cbs-sherlock-series-season-1-thread/625762/196 "2012-12-03T06:43:24Z")
> [@ShibbOleth](#): > > I don’t think that it was. Which model of Ferrari do you think it was? There was a honking great prancing horse decal on the front fender. I think it may have been a 458, but it’s been days now since I saw the episode. ---
**Author:** ![obfusciatrist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4af34b/32.png) [@obfusciatrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/obfusciatrist)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2012, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elementary-new-cbs-sherlock-series-season-1-thread/625762/197 "2012-12-03T13:29:04Z")
I’m not a car person so I have no idea what kind of Ferrari it is, but here are a couple screenshots for those who are car people. It does have a Ferrari logo in front of the passenger door and on the back. [![](https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8343/8241552566_eeb3eeee10_o.png) ](https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8343/8241552566_eeb3eeee10_o.png) [![](https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8483/8240484213_6da97e3e87_o.png) ](https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8483/8240484213_6da97e3e87_o.png) ---
**Author:** ![peedin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peedin/32/14095_2.png) [@peedin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peedin)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2012, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elementary-new-cbs-sherlock-series-season-1-thread/625762/198 "2012-12-03T14:07:05Z")
I had to laugh when Bell said “it’s a VHS tape. This is 2012, who has a VCR??” I said “me, and about a jillion other people.” ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2012, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elementary-new-cbs-sherlock-series-season-1-thread/625762/199 "2012-12-03T14:56:30Z")
> [@obfusciatrist](#): > > I’m not a car person so I have no idea what kind of Ferrari it is, but here are a couple screenshots for those who are car people. > > It does have a Ferrari logo in front of the passenger door and on the back. > > [http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8343/8241552566\_eeb3eeee10\_o.png](http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8343/8241552566_eeb3eeee10_o.png) > [http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8483/8240484213\_6da97e3e87\_o.png](http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8483/8240484213_6da97e3e87_o.png) Thanks, that helps. Looks like it could be a F430. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2012, 9:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elementary-new-cbs-sherlock-series-season-1-thread/625762/200 "2012-12-07T09:10:05Z")
I reckon Jonny Lee Miller the actor had a real cold and they wrote it into the story. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elementary-new-cbs-sherlock-series-season-1-thread/625762.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elementary-new-cbs-sherlock-series-season-1-thread/625762.md?page=11)