# Elementary school serves floor sealant to students instead of milk **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [June 16, 2022, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elementary-school-serves-floor-sealant-to-students-instead-of-milk/966304 "2022-06-16T15:04:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2022, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elementary-school-serves-floor-sealant-to-students-instead-of-milk/966304/61 "2022-06-17T20:47:50Z")
Only marginally relevant, at best … > **[Do French children eat everything?](https://www.bbcgoodfood.com/howto/guide/karen-le-billion-french-children-eat-anything)** > > Do French kids really eat everything? We speak to author Karen Le Billon about adapting to the French way of feeding children... I found the article to make the same point of some documentary I watched – about how other European countries feed their school kids. This make the point well enough: > [@](#): > > **How did your children’s school lunches differ after the move?** > > French school lunches are simply amazing. The French have decided that teaching healthy eating routines to children is a priority, and they teach children about healthy food in the classroom and the lunchroom. > > Starting when children enter school at age three, school lunch consists of four courses: a vegetable starter (for example, grated carrot salad, or beet salad), a warm main course served with a side of grains or vegetables, cheese, and dessert. > > Fresh baguette, eaten plain, is also served. The kids drink water (there are no other drinks of any kind available at lunch, and there is a national ban on vending machines and junk food in all French schools). Dessert is usually fresh fruit, but a sweet treat is often served once a week. > > There is only one choice on the menu, and food is served to children at the table until they are finished primary school (at 12 years old). This may be why the place where lunch is eaten is called a ‘restaurant scolaire‘ (school restaurant). High-school students typically get two choices for each course and often eat in a ‘self’ (meaning a self-serve cafeteria), although many French parents are ambivalent about this self-service model (preferring the idea of a restaurant). > > The French Ministry of National Education sets a minimum time requirement for children to sit at the table: 30 minutes. This is in order to allow them eat their food sufficiently slowly and properly. Talk about ‘slow food’ training! I presume the omission of ‘floor sealant’ was an oversight. Something along the same lines, but a bit closer to home (for many of us): [**Appleton Central Alternative Charter High School’s Nutrition and Wellness Program**](https://www.dietisthekey.com/wellness/impact-of-fresh-healthy-foods-on-learning-and-behavior/) and/or [**More in-depth – 13pg. PDF**](https://www.sustainlv.org/one/wp-content/uploads/Appleton-school-food-study.pdf) Food … for thought 😉 ---
**Author:** ![PackerMan2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/packerman2/32/2894_2.png) [@PackerMan2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PackerMan2)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2022, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elementary-school-serves-floor-sealant-to-students-instead-of-milk/966304/62 "2022-06-17T20:51:22Z")
> [@Machine\_Elf](#): > > My employer also requires that containers be properly labeled. Not a fireable offense, since we don’t deal with food processing - but still a matter of safety and good laboratory practices. It’s an OSHA requirement > **[OSHA3636.pdf](https://www.osha.gov/sites/default/files/publications/OSHA3636.pdf)** ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2022, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elementary-school-serves-floor-sealant-to-students-instead-of-milk/966304/63 "2022-06-17T20:59:13Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > Given the choice I think I’d rather eat semen-tainted dressing than floor sealant milk. If you like the idea of eating semen-infused dressing, you don’t need to frame it in this negative way. There’s no judgment here. ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2022, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elementary-school-serves-floor-sealant-to-students-instead-of-milk/966304/64 "2022-06-17T20:59:56Z")
There’s a known psychological effect that makes events seen in slow motion seem more deliberate. [https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.1603865113](https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.1603865113) > We demonstrate that slow motion replay can systematically increase judgments of intent because it gives viewers the false impression that the actor had more time to premeditate before acting. In legal proceedings, these judgments of intent can mean the difference between life and death. Thus, any benefits of video replay should be weighed against its potentially biasing effects. It wouldn’t surprise me (though I know of no specific evidence) to find out that the more steps that are involved in a bad outcome, the more deliberate the event seems (because people think of each step as another opportunity to avert the incident, perhaps). ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2022, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elementary-school-serves-floor-sealant-to-students-instead-of-milk/966304/65 "2022-06-17T21:00:20Z")
> [@Ike\_Witt](#): > > My first question after all this would be, why do milk and floor sealant come in similar enough packaging that this is even possible? Didn’t we establish in a prior thread that eye drops and superglue come in identical containers? ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2022, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elementary-school-serves-floor-sealant-to-students-instead-of-milk/966304/66 "2022-06-17T21:05:14Z")
You can make quite decent paint with milk. > **[Milk paint](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milk_paint)** > > Milk paint is a nontoxic milk-based paint. It can be made from milk and lime, generally with pigments added for color. In other recipes, borax is mixed with milk's casein protein in order to activate the casein and as a preservative. > Milk paint has been used for thousands of years. It is extremely durable, often lasting for hundreds of years if protected from the elements. It is made of all-natural ingredients, and is very safe and non-toxic once applied. Because oil based and acrylic based pai... > [@Atamasama](#): > > As well as milking a seal? " _"Fix the damn thing_ _And leave my private life out of it_ _Okay, pal?"_ > [@Ike\_Witt](#): > > My first question after all this would be, why do milk and floor sealant come in similar enough packaging that this is even possible? Why does Tide make their pods look like candy so kids eat them? > [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > When I was in grade school in the 1970s, as far as I knew, the food we ate was prepared and served by school employees (lunch ladies, in other words). Same here but a decade or more earlier. OTOH, I am not sure if our “lunch ladies” were human. 🤪 > [@gnoitall](#): > > Then that chow hall transitioned to a contractor. Prices went up, everything became a la carte, and quality… it’s the only place I saw cockroaches baked onto strips of oven-fried bacon and where I was served a brown egg. Not a brown-shelled egg, a boiled egg where the “white” was medium beige and smelled of literal rotten eggs. So a rotten boiled egg. > > Pretty good indicator of what “lowest bidder” means. It is the GOP mania for “privatizing” which really means= “outsourcing to a contributor or brother in law so they can make $$$” ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2022, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elementary-school-serves-floor-sealant-to-students-instead-of-milk/966304/67 "2022-06-17T22:36:59Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Why does Tide make their pods look like candy so kids eat them? What kind of candy are you eating that looks like a Tide pod?! ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2022, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elementary-school-serves-floor-sealant-to-students-instead-of-milk/966304/68 "2022-06-17T22:40:21Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > What kind of candy are you eating that looks like a Tide pod?! Presumably he has been eating Tide pods if he thinks that’s what candy looks like. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2022, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elementary-school-serves-floor-sealant-to-students-instead-of-milk/966304/69 "2022-06-17T22:46:50Z")
OH SHIT we need to get him to the hospital! ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2022, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elementary-school-serves-floor-sealant-to-students-instead-of-milk/966304/70 "2022-06-17T23:12:50Z")
Aside: With all that panic over people eating Tide pods, and “how stupid are kids these days”, and so on, you know how many actual cases there were? Seven. In the whole country. ---
**Author:** ![Mama\_Zappa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/71e660/32.png) [@Mama\_Zappa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mama_Zappa)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2022, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elementary-school-serves-floor-sealant-to-students-instead-of-milk/966304/71 "2022-06-17T23:39:39Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > Shortly after, children began complaining that the milk tasted bad and caused burning sensations in their mouths and throats. Good thing this didn’t occur in a Catholic school in the 1960s. Those nuns would have made the kids finish their “milk” and “quit complaining or you’ll be sorry!”. I never ran into an attitude like that, personally, during my 12 years of parochial school, but I have friends who WERE forced to consume food that they loathed or that tasted off. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2022, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elementary-school-serves-floor-sealant-to-students-instead-of-milk/966304/72 "2022-06-17T23:47:33Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Aside: With all that panic over people eating Tide pods, and “how stupid are kids these days”, and so on, you know how many actual cases there were? Seven. In the whole country. BTW, I wonder about that whole kids-eating-Tide-pods scare. They’re too big to swallow whole so wouldn’t a kid bite into one and immediately taste something foul? (I assume that they don’t taste sweet.) ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2022, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elementary-school-serves-floor-sealant-to-students-instead-of-milk/966304/73 "2022-06-17T23:50:03Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > BTW, I wonder about that whole kids-eating-Tide-pods scare. What’s to wonder about? It was a hoax turned into a panic. It was the “murderous clowns lurking in the woods” myth all over again. ETA: I am referring to the panic about the Tide Pods Challenge, which supposedly all teens were doing. Accidental poisonings **did** happen, quite a few. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2022, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elementary-school-serves-floor-sealant-to-students-instead-of-milk/966304/74 "2022-06-17T23:52:04Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Aside: With all that panic over people eating Tide pods, and “how stupid are kids these days”, and so on, you know how many actual cases there were? Seven. In the whole country. Not true, according to Wikipedia: > [@](#): > > Between 2012 and 2013, [poison control centers](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poison_control_center) reported over 7,000 cases of young children eating laundry pods, and ingestion of Procter & Gamble laundry pods had resulted in six deaths by 2017. > [@](#): > > In March 2013, _[Consumer Reports](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consumer_Reports)_ reported that “since early 2012, poison control centers nationwide have received reports of nearly 7,700 pod-related exposures to children age 5 years and younger.”[[6]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consumption_of_Tide_Pods#cite_note-ConsumerReports2013-6) In 2012 and 2013, an average of one child was admitted to hospital every day as a result of eating Tide Pods. But, note that, apparently, this was primarily among very young children, not “dumb kids who should know better” (though the “Tide Pod Challenge” was largely done by teenagers). > **[Consumption of Tide Pods](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consumption_of_Tide_Pods)** > > Like most detergent products, Tide Pods, a laundry detergent pod sold by Procter & Gamble (P&G) since 2012, can be deadly if ingested. Media reports have discussed how children and those with dementia could mistake laundry pods for candy and endanger their health or life by consuming them, and they were named an emerging health risk by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in 2012. Between 2012 and 2013, poison control centers reported over 7,000 cases of young children eating laundr... ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2022, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elementary-school-serves-floor-sealant-to-students-instead-of-milk/966304/75 "2022-06-17T23:53:07Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > But, note that, apparently, this was primarily among very young children, not “dumb kids who should know better” (though the “Tide Pod Challenge” was largely done by teenagers). I believe Chronos was conflating the number of poisoning cases with the number of deaths from poisoning. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2022, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elementary-school-serves-floor-sealant-to-students-instead-of-milk/966304/76 "2022-06-17T23:56:11Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > I believe Chronos was conflating the number of poisoning cases with the number of deaths from poisoning. That could be. Regardless, when it comes to young children, it doesn’t need to look like candy for them to put something in their mouths (and even swallow it). If you’ve had kids, or even spent any time around toddlers, you’ve likely seen that many of them tend to put _everything_ in their mouths. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2022, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elementary-school-serves-floor-sealant-to-students-instead-of-milk/966304/77 "2022-06-17T23:58:07Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > If you’ve had kids, or even spent any time around toddlers, you’ve likely seen that many of them tend to put _everything_ in their mouths. Pine cones, dirt, sticks, _anything_. Very young kids explore by putting things in their mouths. I had to watch my kids like a hawk. ---
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> [@Mama\_Zappa](#): > > Good thing this didn’t occur in a Catholic school in the 1960s. Those nuns would have made the kids finish their “milk” and “quit complaining or you’ll be sorry!”. > > I never ran into an attitude like that, personally, during my 12 years of parochial school, but I have friends who WERE forced to consume food that they loathed or that tasted off. “Offer it up for the poor souls in Purgatory!” ---
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I had this type of milk dispenser at college It makes a lot of sense if you’re cafeteria is more of a buffet style, where you get to choose what to eat. You also can fill up your own drinks, and get only as much as you’ll actually use. (Lots of cartons went half empty or even unopened at my high school.) ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2022, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elementary-school-serves-floor-sealant-to-students-instead-of-milk/966304/80 "2022-06-18T01:27:59Z")
> [@Mama\_Zappa](#): > > I never ran into an attitude like that, personally, during my 12 years of parochial school, but I have friends who WERE forced to consume food that they loathed or that tasted off. When I was pre-school, I went to what was then called “nursery school”. This was in the very early 50s. The woman that ran the place served a bean soup one day, and when I got to the bottom there was a large and unappetizing chunk of fat. She made me sit there until I ate it and I immediately vomited, for which I was punished. This wasn’t a parochial school, just a miserable bitch who shouldn’t have been taking care of kids. Some 70+ years later, fat still makes me gag and gets spat out immediately. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elementary-school-serves-floor-sealant-to-students-instead-of-milk/966304.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elementary-school-serves-floor-sealant-to-students-instead-of-milk/966304.md?page=5)