# Elevator Pitch Superhero Movies

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elevator-pitch-superhero-movies/829281>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [February 10, 2019, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elevator-pitch-superhero-movies/829281 "2019-02-10T14:04:24Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elevator-pitch-superhero-movies/829281/21 "2019-02-11T18:53:07Z")

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I’d pay to watch Sklad the Rhymer give an elevator pitch of one of his superhero ideas to Rebecca Watson in an elevator.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elevator-pitch-superhero-movies/829281/22 "2019-02-11T18:58:45Z")

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Deadpool would also be an interesting addition to **Doug K.**'s Captain America idea.

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**Author:** ![furryman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/furryman/32/99_2.png) [@furryman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furryman)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elevator-pitch-superhero-movies/829281/23 "2019-02-11T19:13:15Z")

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Screwball: In case you don’t know Screwball is basically a living cartoon. In the movie they use the same process they used in _Roger Rabbit_ to make it look like a cartoon is interacting with real people.

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**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elevator-pitch-superhero-movies/829281/24 "2019-02-11T22:27:39Z")

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“Speedman”. Speedman is a super-speedster. You know, like the Flash. His powers work by changing the flow of time, so that he can move at super-speed. To everyone else, that is. To him, he moves at normal speed, and everything else slows down.

Otherwise, he’s a normal middle-aged guy who is moderately out of shape. So he could run from Los Angeles to New York in five minutes to get the McGuffin across the country, but to him it would take months of steady jogging. And he’s in no shape to jog across the country, he’s just a regular guy.

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elevator-pitch-superhero-movies/829281/25 "2019-02-11T23:32:11Z")

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> [@Lemur866](#):
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> “Speedman”. Speedman is a super-speedster. You know, like the Flash. His powers work by changing the flow of time, so that he can move at super-speed. To everyone else, that is. To him, he moves at normal speed, and everything else slows down.
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> Otherwise, he’s a normal middle-aged guy who is moderately out of shape. So he could run from Los Angeles to New York in five minutes to get the McGuffin across the country, but to him it would take months of steady jogging. And he’s in no shape to jog across the country, he’s just a regular guy.

That would work, but he’d need a super speedster plane and car. I can see him driving across country weaving in and out of the (to him)s topped traffic. He could even land his super speedster plane between planes that are already landing.

That would be an image - the Speedster plane landing while a jumbo jet is “suspended” right at the runway threshold.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elevator-pitch-superhero-movies/829281/26 "2019-02-11T23:38:04Z")

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_[Handiman](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkQQGsOegv0): The Motion Picture_.

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**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elevator-pitch-superhero-movies/829281/27 "2019-02-12T00:09:17Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> That would work, but he’d need a super speedster plane and car. I can see him driving across country weaving in and out of the (to him)s topped traffic. He could even land his super speedster plane between planes that are already landing.
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> That would be an image - the Speedster plane landing while a jumbo jet is “suspended” right at the runway threshold.

The point is that in theory he’d be able to run across the continent in minutes. In practical terms, he’d never be able to do it, because he’d have to actually exert the same effort of running across the continent that any normal person would. Giving him a super car or super plane removes the gimmick. This guy can move at super-speed, but he can only do what a normal person could do, and it’s just as hard for him as for any other normal person. Even just jogging across the city at super speed is going to take him hours of subjective time.

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**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elevator-pitch-superhero-movies/829281/28 "2019-02-12T00:15:33Z")

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I would have liked a couple of movies in between Endgame and Infinity War. I know we’re going to explore this some in Endgame but I’d like to have seen more.

My idea is a Dracula-Blade-Dr. Strange trilogy. Basically copying the Dr. Strange run that dealt with Dracula and vampires in the 80’s. I don’t want Mordo. He’s an idealogue now and that’s boring. He was very interesting before the end credit scene.

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elevator-pitch-superhero-movies/829281/29 "2019-02-12T17:51:14Z")

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> [@Lemur866](#):
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> The point is that in theory he’d be able to run across the continent in minutes. In practical terms, he’d never be able to do it, because he’d have to actually exert the same effort of running across the continent that any normal person would. Giving him a super car or super plane removes the gimmick. This guy can move at super-speed, but he can only do what a normal person could do, and it’s just as hard for him as for any other normal person. Even just jogging across the city at super speed is going to take him hours of subjective time.

I understand, but I’m just being a studio suit and trying to make your idea “work”. Because a super hero with just the super speedster power would never use it. He’s just SuperFedExMan otherwise.

And, does he stop to eat along the way? How does that work?

Having the car or plane makes the power useful, but still keeps the essential conflict of his power - he can help people, but it’s booorrrringgg for him.

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**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2019, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elevator-pitch-superhero-movies/829281/30 "2019-02-15T00:34:17Z")

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Captain America 4 - Fortunate Son

John Walker (played by WWE star John Cena) is true-blue patriot soldier. After the mysterious disappearance of Captain America (post Endgame–Cap is gone), Walker is chosen to receive experimental treatments (Super Soldier Serum 2.0) to enhance his natural athleticism and given a new shield and Captain America costume. His more brutal and violent methods lead him to successfully take down a revitalized version of AIM, but he is also called out for tarnishing Steve Roger’s legacy. His next mission is bringing in a rogue operative…The Black Widow.  
Can John Walker live up to the legacy of the original or will he forge a new path?

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**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2019, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elevator-pitch-superhero-movies/829281/31 "2019-02-15T20:06:10Z")

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Man Man. Bitten by a radioactive man, Man Man has the proportionate strength and agility of a man.

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2019, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elevator-pitch-superhero-movies/829281/32 "2019-02-15T20:16:13Z")

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\*\*Zorro Rides Again. \*\*

Zorro’s descendant, Jimmy Vegas, fights corrupt politicians / business moguls in contemporary Los Angeles. He rides a black motorbike instead of a horse. Zorro counts as a superhero, doesn’t he?

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2019, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elevator-pitch-superhero-movies/829281/33 "2019-02-15T22:44:39Z")

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He isn’t usually considered one, but he should be. Distinctive costume, secret identity, fighting against injustice… He fits right in.

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**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2019, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elevator-pitch-superhero-movies/829281/34 "2019-02-15T23:12:51Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> I understand, but I’m just being a studio suit and trying to make your idea “work”. Because a super hero with just the super speedster power would never use it. He’s just SuperFedExMan otherwise.
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> And, does he stop to eat along the way? How does that work?
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> Having the car or plane makes the power useful, but still keeps the essential conflict of his power - he can help people, but it’s booorrrringgg for him.

But the cool part of his power is all the things he really could do with it. He can defeat bad guys easily, they pull out their guns, and 1 second later all of them are in the process of falling to the floor. If there’s a ticking countdown, he can stop and think through the solution. He has super-speed power, but it’s not the solution to every single problem like it is with lots of other comic book speedsters. It’s a way of asking what “super-speed” would really mean.

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**Author:** ![furryman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/furryman/32/99_2.png) [@furryman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furryman)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2019, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elevator-pitch-superhero-movies/829281/35 "2019-02-16T01:09:26Z")

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“How I became a lesbian superhero.” (With apologies to lesbians)  
Some type of mystical hyjinks turns a macho man into an incredibly sexy female superhero. The last scene shows him/ her embracing her femininity and riding off into the sunset with another female superhero.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2019, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elevator-pitch-superhero-movies/829281/36 "2019-02-16T03:12:25Z")

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**furryman** , you do realize, I hope, that transgenderism is not the same thing as homosexuality?

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2019, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elevator-pitch-superhero-movies/829281/37 "2019-02-16T06:23:26Z")

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But what about a hetero male who is transformed into a female, and retains a sexual attraction to women? Would it be inappropriate to call her a lesbian?

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2019, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elevator-pitch-superhero-movies/829281/38 "2019-02-16T14:59:19Z")

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It would not be appropriate to call him a lesbian, no. Unless you’re suggesting that the magical transformation changed the hero’s mental gender as well as physical sex, which would be difficult enough to present in a book, and essentially impossible on screen.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ecks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bcef8e/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ecks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ecks)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2019, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elevator-pitch-superhero-movies/829281/39 "2019-02-16T16:21:59Z")

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A Superhero who is powerful, heroic, earnest, honorable, and sincerely believes that abortion is murder.

A superhero who loses his powers and figure out what duty he has towards ordinary people now that he’s one of them.

A plague kills all ordinary humans, leaving a world inhabited only by superpowered people. Without ordinary people to protect or conquer, how do they define themselves?

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**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2019, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elevator-pitch-superhero-movies/829281/40 "2019-02-16T18:42:04Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> It would not be appropriate to call him a lesbian, no. Unless you’re suggesting that the magical transformation changed the hero’s mental gender as well as physical sex, which would be difficult enough to present in a book, and essentially impossible on screen.

“Actualllllyyyy…”

We are supposed to call this person whatever they want to be called.

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