# Elitism that you (ashamedly) participate in. **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [April 24, 2010, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elitism-that-you-ashamedly-participate-in/537232 "2010-04-24T18:42:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2010, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elitism-that-you-ashamedly-participate-in/537232/101 "2010-04-28T15:06:59Z")
> [@Autolycus](#): > > I can pose as an anime elitist until I let it slip that I like Dragon Ball Z. That’s the great thing about being an elitist. You can like (relatively) terrible/popular things, as long as you’re aware that they’re terrible/popular. It’s only a problem when people think that those things are the epitome of the whateverness. So, for example, I have no qualms about listening to both “Single Ladies” by Beyonce \*\*\*and \*\*\*“Test Anxiety” by Toenut. > [@VarlosZ](#): > > I just hope I never meet anyone from Tokyo. I spent a semester there in college. I’m back in Milwaukee now, though, so that probably cancels it out for you. ---
**Author:** ![Hampshire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hampshire/32/4887_2.png) [@Hampshire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hampshire)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2010, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elitism-that-you-ashamedly-participate-in/537232/102 "2010-04-28T15:33:15Z")
> [@NinjaChick](#): > > Amen. This doesn’t fit the thread, because I’m not at all ashamed of it, but seriously - Domino’s or Little Caesar’s or Papa John’s or Pizza Hut is not pizza. Double Amen. I love me some pizza and when I hear someone say “hey, let’s order some pizza” I’m the first to jump up and yell yipee! But my dreams can be crushed just as quickly when they say they are getting it from one of those 3 places. “Really? Pizzahut is the best you could come up with? No thanks, I think I’ll be having this cup of water and some cheerios thanks.” ---
**Author:** ![kushiel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbce88/32.png) [@kushiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kushiel)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2010, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elitism-that-you-ashamedly-participate-in/537232/103 "2010-04-28T16:35:09Z")
> [@Zsofia](#): > > What’s really embarrassing is that I’m such an elitist I don’t even watch anymore. I guess a lot of the fun for me was the thrill of the hunt, the excitement of opening up a Priority Mail box to find stuff I just ordered because the name sounded interesting - god, our Hana Yori Dongo tapes actually had time codes and commercials in them. It just isn’t fun at all anymore, and I haven’t watched anything for years. I want to see Legend of the Galactic Heroes, but at 720p, that’s 100 gigs of data. Fuck that, I want someone to license it so I can just order it and get DVDs. I don’t want to spend how many hours torrenting it, then burning it to DVD, not to mention the fact I’d have to buy an external hard drive to store it. So yeah, I hate watching anime on a computer. Anime was meant to be played on a TV screen [strike]so i can shimmy up to the screen to kiss Allen Schezar[/strike]. > [@Kyla](#): > > But what are your thoughts on yaoi? Well played, ma’am, well played. > [@Autolycus](#): > > I can pose as an anime elitist until I let it slip that I like Dragon Ball Z. Then it’s curtains for me, over 9000 of them. > > I was never gosu but yet still elitist when I played WC3. Noobs made my skin crawl. You’re not that much younger than me - DBZ on TV was the first source of anime for a lot of people in our age group. Personally, I’m still waiting to run into someone who sees Char Aznable and calls him a ripoff of Zechs Merquise. Well, nowadays they’d be calling him a ripoff of Graham Aker, but you know… ---
**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2010, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elitism-that-you-ashamedly-participate-in/537232/104 "2010-04-28T16:55:19Z")
Video games. I exercise great patience with those who suck or don’t know any better yet and go to great lengths to help them get up to speed, but if I’m playing with a group of people that want to play a little more seriously, then get out of the party. ---
**Author:** ![puddleglum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puddleglum/32/137_2.png) [@puddleglum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puddleglum)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2010, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elitism-that-you-ashamedly-participate-in/537232/105 "2010-04-28T17:37:39Z")
Hot dogs. The difference between a good hot dog and a bad one is huge. Nathan’s or Hebrew National are the only national brands that are any good and only cost a couple dollars more. There is no other food product where spending less than three more dollars for a package gives you so much superior a product. That non-poor people willingly consume bad hot dogs mystifies me. Books- I was into Somerset Maugham in college and the device he had in his books for identifying stupid characters is for them to read detective novels. Now, I can’t help looking down at people who read detective novels. My feelings for Ashenden fans are complicated. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2010, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elitism-that-you-ashamedly-participate-in/537232/106 "2010-04-28T18:43:56Z")
> [@kushiel](#): > > Anime was meant to be played on a TV screen [strike]so i can shimmy up to the screen to kiss Allen Schezar[/strike]. Series version or movie version? I’d go with the movie version, personally. (Side note: [\*\*\*\*del][/\*\*\*\*del] tags actually work for strikethru here.) ---
**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2010, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elitism-that-you-ashamedly-participate-in/537232/107 "2010-04-28T19:06:53Z")
> [@puddleglum](#): > > Hot dogs. The difference between a good hot dog and a bad one is huge. Nathan’s or Hebrew National are the only national brands that are any good and only cost a couple dollars more. There is no other food product where spending less than three more dollars for a package gives you so much superior a product. That non-poor people willingly consume bad hot dogs mystifies me. While you’re at it, go ahead and tell us which brands of pickled eggs, potted meat, and canned corned beef hash are just, like, the only ones worth buying. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2010, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elitism-that-you-ashamedly-participate-in/537232/108 "2010-04-28T19:30:24Z")
I’m only interested if it’s followed up with a discussion of the relative merits of MD20/20 and Boone’s Farm. ---
**Author:** ![suranyi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@suranyi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/suranyi)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2010, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elitism-that-you-ashamedly-participate-in/537232/109 "2010-04-28T19:54:45Z")
> [@VarlosZ](#): > > As a native New Yorker, I’m an elitist about urban living. > > “I don’t know how they do things in your cow town, but…” > “I’m actually from Phoenix, population 1.5 million.” > “Right, like I said, cow town.” > > I just hope I never meet anyone from Tokyo. I have to admit that in my travels, the only city I’ve been to that had the same manic energy of the people on the streets that NYC has is Tokyo. ---
**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2010, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elitism-that-you-ashamedly-participate-in/537232/110 "2010-04-28T19:57:50Z")
> [@kushiel](#): > > I want to see Legend of the Galactic Heroes, but at 720p, that’s 100 gigs of data. Fuck that, I want someone to license it so I can just order it and get DVDs. I don’t want to spend how many hours torrenting it, then burning it to DVD, not to mention the fact I’d have to buy an external hard drive to store it. > > So yeah, I hate watching anime on a computer. Anime was meant to be played on a TV screen [strike]so i can shimmy up to the screen to kiss Allen Schezar[/strike]. > > Well played, ma’am, well played. > > You’re not that much younger than me - DBZ on TV was the first source of anime for a lot of people in our age group. > > Personally, I’m still waiting to run into someone who sees Char Aznable and calls him a ripoff of Zechs Merquise. Well, nowadays they’d be calling him a ripoff of Graham Aker, but you know… I know you’re not talking no smack about my Zechs. Sigh… my first bishonen god. ---
**Author:** ![Kiros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/439d5e/32.png) [@Kiros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kiros)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2010, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elitism-that-you-ashamedly-participate-in/537232/111 "2010-04-28T20:03:58Z")
> [@winterhawk11](#): > > Okay, you win there. 'Cause…there’s no way I would have done that. 🙂 > > I’ve heard horror stories about EQ, and all I have to say is that I’m glad I didn’t catch the MMORPG bug until after WoW came out. I’ll settle for /facepalming at scrubs who can’t comprehend “if it’s green and glowy, you probably shouldn’t be standing in it!” 🙂 I was in college for most of the EQ heyday, so it actually wasn’t _that_ bad. Could I do it now that I have a ‘real’ job? Of course not, some of the things we did were insane (aforementioned Ragefire camps for cleric epics pretty much at the top of the list, but by no means alone on it). Did it still ruin WoW for me because everything is just handed to you on a damn silver platter? Of course. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2010, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elitism-that-you-ashamedly-participate-in/537232/112 "2010-04-28T20:05:00Z")
You know, I was actually a little bit disappointed by New York the first time, just because it seemed so much quieter at night than Tokyo. ---
**Author:** ![put\_down\_the\_sabre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/da6949/32.png) [@put\_down\_the\_sabre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/put_down_the_sabre)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2010, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elitism-that-you-ashamedly-participate-in/537232/113 "2010-04-28T20:45:23Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > You know, I was actually a little bit disappointed by New York the first time, just because it seemed so much quieter at night than Tokyo. I agree – as much as I like New York, I think the hype is overblown. 24 hour metro sure is nice though – in Tokyo you’re looking at a horribly expensive taxi ride. pdts ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2010, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elitism-that-you-ashamedly-participate-in/537232/114 "2010-04-28T20:53:15Z")
> [@put\_down\_the\_sabre](#): > > 24 hour metro sure is nice though – in Tokyo you’re looking at a horribly expensive taxi ride. Nah, in Tokyo you either get home by the last train or stay out all night. That’s what we did, anyway. Which isn’t to say I wouldn’t have been happier if the trains and subways were running 24 hours, but events were pretty much structured around the limitations of the system. (E.g., a friend’s band would be playing at a show where the opening band wouldn’t start until something like 10 or 11 p.m., and then the thing would run through 5 or 6 a.m., maybe later.) ---
**Author:** ![kushiel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbce88/32.png) [@kushiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kushiel)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2010, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elitism-that-you-ashamedly-participate-in/537232/115 "2010-04-28T21:00:01Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > Series version or movie version? I’d go with the movie version, personally. (Side note: [\*\*\*\*del][/\*\*\*\*del] tags actually work for strikethru here.) Series version. I’ll admit it, I love my bishounen stereotype, and the animation style of the TV series gave him that in spades. > [@Zsofia](#): > > I know you’re not talking no smack about my Zechs. Sigh… my first bishonen god. Aw hells naw, GW was my first Gundam. 13x6 is still my one and only. ---
**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2010, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elitism-that-you-ashamedly-participate-in/537232/116 "2010-04-28T21:07:01Z")
See, now you’re going to make me go back and read awful fanfic. ---
**Author:** ![B.Serum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/b.serum/32/14266_2.png) [@B.Serum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/B.Serum)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2010, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elitism-that-you-ashamedly-participate-in/537232/117 "2010-04-28T21:26:40Z")
Fonts. Any font installed by Microsoft Office (Arial, Verdana, Comic Sans, etc.) shall never be used in any design work. Neither any of the “knockoff” fonts that are mere tracings of the genuine original (_“Baskerline”_ instead of **Baskerville** , _“Alphavers”_ instead of **Univers** , _“Clarion”_ instead of **Clarendon** , etc.) Oh… and fucking _[Papyrus!](http://www.papyruswatch.com/)_ It’s sad that a well-designed face can be undone by a combination of distinctiveness and omnipresent usage. ---
**Author:** ![MTCicero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a4c791/32.png) [@MTCicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MTCicero)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2010, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elitism-that-you-ashamedly-participate-in/537232/118 "2010-04-28T21:31:56Z")
> [@overlyverbose](#): > > I also like that we have a small TV that doesn’t dominate an entire wall of our family room All due respect, but I point at people like you and laugh. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2010, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elitism-that-you-ashamedly-participate-in/537232/119 "2010-04-28T21:39:10Z")
> [@kushiel](#): > > Series version. I’ll admit, it’s been much longer since I watched the series than since I watched the movie, so the latter’s Allen is much stronger in my mind. I might have to re-watch it again sometime soon… you know… _for science_. Whoa, and I can get the complete series on Amazon for only $30. Time to replace the shitty Chinese bootlegs I bought over a decade ago! (Not that I didn’t love subtitles that were often completely mis-timed.) Argh, dammit, and now all the suggestions that are popping up are making me want to get into anime again. Dammit, I gave this up when I stopped fansubbing! > [@B.Serum](#): > > Fonts. I learned about kerning here! ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2010, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elitism-that-you-ashamedly-participate-in/537232/120 "2010-04-28T22:53:35Z")
> [@melodyharmonius](#): > > Sci fi geeks don’t go mainstream. We are with the dungeons and the dragons This reminds me. 1st Ed. AD&D or get bent. I don’t need you Johnny-Come-Lately types with your “Ooohhh… according to my Druidic Blood Mage Sourcebook, I can Specialize in Necro-Thaumaturgy for 5% more Proficiency Points when I use a double-bladed dagger-staff!” crap. Back in my day, you shot off a Magic Missile and you\* liked\* it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elitism-that-you-ashamedly-participate-in/537232.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elitism-that-you-ashamedly-participate-in/537232.md?page=7)