# Elizabeth Warren has Dropped Out.

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elizabeth-warren-has-dropped-out/848969
**Category:** Politics & Elections
**Created:** [March 5, 2020, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elizabeth-warren-has-dropped-out/848969 "2020-03-05T16:01:55Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)
#### Post date: [March 5, 2020, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elizabeth-warren-has-dropped-out/848969/1 "2020-03-05T16:01:55Z")

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[-=Link=-](https://vosizneias.com/2020/03/05/elizabeth-warren-is-ending-her-presidential-campaign/)  
Now we have a clear fight.

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### Author: ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)
#### Post date: [March 5, 2020, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elizabeth-warren-has-dropped-out/848969/2 "2020-03-05T16:09:14Z")

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No woman president for America for quite some time more yet.

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### Author: ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)
#### Post date: [March 5, 2020, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elizabeth-warren-has-dropped-out/848969/3 "2020-03-05T16:10:17Z")

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> [@Velocity](#):
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> No woman president for America for quite some time more yet.

With all these old guys, maybe the Veep will get in.

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### Author: ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)
#### Post date: [March 5, 2020, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elizabeth-warren-has-dropped-out/848969/4 "2020-03-05T16:12:21Z")

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If I were her, I’d be talking with the Biden people about being running mate. But then publicly endorse Bernie until the veep announcement is made in a few months. That way they can make a big show of the party uniting to take on Trump.

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### Author: ![orcenio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/orcenio/32/1036_2.png) [@orcenio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/orcenio)
#### Post date: [March 5, 2020, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elizabeth-warren-has-dropped-out/848969/5 "2020-03-05T16:12:48Z")

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The race isn’t over, but unless Joe has a seriously disastrous “Joe moment” during the primaries, he’s going to be your candidate.

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### Author: ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)
#### Post date: [March 5, 2020, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elizabeth-warren-has-dropped-out/848969/6 "2020-03-05T16:16:00Z")

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I bet that moment of Warren saying that Bernie called her a liar on national TV (in her opinion) is looming large on who she may endorse.

> **[Exclusive: Warren accused Sanders in tense post-debate exchange of calling her...](https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/15/politics/bernie-sanders-elizabeth-warren-debate-audio/index.html)**
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> In a tense and dramatic exchange in the moments after the Democratic debate Tuesday night, Elizabeth Warren accused Bernie Sanders of calling her a liar on national television.

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### Author: ![FlikTheBlue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fliktheblue/32/10972_2.png) [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)
#### Post date: [March 5, 2020, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elizabeth-warren-has-dropped-out/848969/7 "2020-03-05T16:18:01Z")

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> [@Velocity](#):
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> No woman president for America for quite some time more yet.

Maybe. Maybe not. I’m still predicting that Klobuchar will be Biden’s running mate. Given his age and health, I think she would have a decent shot at becoming #47 if Biden wins and she is the VP. If I was to bet I think her odds of being the 47th POTUS (46th if Trump wins this year) are probably higher than any other single individual.

ETA. I also predict that Warren is not going to endorse either Biden or Sanders at this time.

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### Author: ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)
#### Post date: [March 5, 2020, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elizabeth-warren-has-dropped-out/848969/8 "2020-03-05T16:24:48Z")

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> [@FlikTheBlue](#):
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> If I was to bet I think her odds of being the 47th POTUS (46th if Trump wins this year) are probably higher than any other single individual.

Was it her bland debate appearances, lackluster polling throughout the past year, or disastrous delegate count that makes you think that?

I’m not saying she won’t, stranger things have happened, but what on earth makes her the odds-on favorite in your opinion to be the 46th/47th president over any of the other candidates that lost this year?

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### Author: ![FlikTheBlue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fliktheblue/32/10972_2.png) [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)
#### Post date: [March 5, 2020, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elizabeth-warren-has-dropped-out/848969/9 "2020-03-05T16:26:56Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> Was it her bland debate appearances, lackluster polling throughout the past year, or disastrous delegate count that makes you think that?
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> I’m not saying she won’t, stranger things have happened, but what on earth makes her the odds-on favorite in your opinion to be the 46th/47th president over any of the other candidate that lost this year?

It’s mostly my guess that Biden promised her the VP position. I think there’s a small chance he may have even promised her that he would not run in ‘24 and endorse her for that election.

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### Author: ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)
#### Post date: [March 5, 2020, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elizabeth-warren-has-dropped-out/848969/10 "2020-03-05T16:27:53Z")

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> [@FlikTheBlue](#):
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> It’s mostly my guess that Biden promised her the VP position. I think there’s a small chance he may have even promised her that he would not run in ‘24 and endorse her for that election.

Ah, fair enough.

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### Author: ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)
#### Post date: [March 5, 2020, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elizabeth-warren-has-dropped-out/848969/11 "2020-03-05T16:29:09Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> If I were her, I’d be talking with the Biden people about being running mate. But then publicly endorse Bernie until the veep announcement is made in a few months. That way they can make a big show of the party uniting to take on Trump.

That sounds slick but Warren has neither the political skill nor cynicism required to pull it off.

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### Author: ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)
#### Post date: [March 5, 2020, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elizabeth-warren-has-dropped-out/848969/12 "2020-03-05T16:29:57Z")

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Warren as VP would placate a lot of Bernie supporters, which is good.

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### Author: ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)
#### Post date: [March 5, 2020, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elizabeth-warren-has-dropped-out/848969/13 "2020-03-05T16:31:45Z")

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Totally expected, but sad anyway.

Since this time Saturday, Steyer, Buttigieg, Klobuchar, Bloomberg, and now Warren have dropped out. At this rate we’ll be down to zero candidates by Monday. 😉

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### Author: ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)
#### Post date: [March 5, 2020, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elizabeth-warren-has-dropped-out/848969/14 "2020-03-05T16:33:21Z")

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I think Biden really has to get a much younger running mate. Most likely he picks Harris or someone like her. Warren would take attorney general or treasury secretary if offered.

I guess nobody noticed or cares, but Gabbard has not dropped out yet.

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#### Post date: [March 5, 2020, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elizabeth-warren-has-dropped-out/848969/15 "2020-03-05T16:35:04Z")

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I wouldn’t want Warren to be Biden’s veep. They disagree on a great deal, and being his veep would effectively muzzle her.

In the unlikely event that Bernie wins the nomination and the election, I’d love to see Warren as either Fed chair or Treasury secretary.

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### Author: ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)
#### Post date: [March 5, 2020, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elizabeth-warren-has-dropped-out/848969/16 "2020-03-05T16:37:08Z")

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I wouldn’t want Warren to be Biden’s veep. They disagree on a great deal, and being his veep would effectively muzzle her.

In the unlikely event that Bernie wins the nomination and the election, I’d love to see Warren as either Fed chair or Treasury secretary.

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### Author: ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)
#### Post date: [March 5, 2020, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elizabeth-warren-has-dropped-out/848969/17 "2020-03-05T16:37:25Z")

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Warren is from MA, Harris from CA. Amy best meets my “Euchre principle for VP selection”. You count on your partner for one trick.

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### Author: ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)
#### Post date: [March 5, 2020, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elizabeth-warren-has-dropped-out/848969/18 "2020-03-05T16:38:17Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> That sounds slick but Warren has neither the political skill nor cynicism required to pull it off.

I don’t know, all she really has to do is say “I endorse Bernie Sanders,” then go back to the Senate and keep her head down for the next couple months. Plus I imagine having the opportunity to be a 78-year-old heartbeat away from the presidency could probably make even the most ingenuous among us a crafty political beast.

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### Author: ![orcenio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/orcenio/32/1036_2.png) [@orcenio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/orcenio)
#### Post date: [March 5, 2020, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elizabeth-warren-has-dropped-out/848969/19 "2020-03-05T16:38:21Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> Was it her bland debate appearances, lackluster polling throughout the past year, or disastrous delegate count that makes you think that?
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> I’m not saying she won’t, stranger things have happened, but what on earth makes her the odds-on favorite in your opinion to be the 46th/47th president over any of the other candidates that lost this year?

A poor showing didn’t stop Obama from choosing Biden as veep, and Obama’s shine pulled through for him on Tuesday. Biden’s veep can ride that residual shine onward; and their veep after that, _ad infinitum_. We’ll call it the Obama perpetual motion machine. Can’t lose.

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### Author: ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)
#### Post date: [March 5, 2020, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elizabeth-warren-has-dropped-out/848969/20 "2020-03-05T16:39:53Z")

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And yet Tulsi Gabbard keeps going, like that gym membership you haven’t gotten around to cancelling.

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