# Elizabeth Warren has Dropped Out.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elizabeth-warren-has-dropped-out/848969>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [March 5, 2020, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elizabeth-warren-has-dropped-out/848969 "2020-03-05T16:01:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2020, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elizabeth-warren-has-dropped-out/848969/21 "2020-03-05T16:57:58Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> I don’t know, all she really has to do is say “I endorse Bernie Sanders,” then go back to the Senate and keep her head down for the next couple months. Plus I imagine having the opportunity to be a 78-year-old heartbeat away from the presidency could probably make even the most ingenuous among us a crafty political beast.

No way, man. Reporters will constantly be peppering her to talk more about her endorsement and why she’s not out stumping, and she’ll blow it eventually. You don’t recruit people like her for shenanigans.

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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2020, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elizabeth-warren-has-dropped-out/848969/22 "2020-03-05T16:58:12Z")

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I don’t understand why people want always try to take effective people out of the Senate.

But if I were going to appoint her to something, I’d let her control her baby - the CFPB. Especially if SCOTUS rules that POTUS can replace the head at will.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2020, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elizabeth-warren-has-dropped-out/848969/23 "2020-03-05T17:02:55Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> And yet Tulsi Gabbard keeps going, like that gym membership you haven’t gotten around to cancelling.

I’m predicting big shifts in momentum. It’ll end up being Gabbard versus Weld in the general. You heard it here first.

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**Author:** ![Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/do_not_taunt/32/2968_2.png) [@Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Do_Not_Taunt)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2020, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elizabeth-warren-has-dropped-out/848969/24 "2020-03-05T17:06:12Z")

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Stacey Abrams would be a good choice: young, ambitious, and put freakin’ Georgia in play in 2018. Plus she’s not currently in the Senate (or any elective seat), so no loss to bring her up to VP.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2020, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elizabeth-warren-has-dropped-out/848969/25 "2020-03-05T17:07:39Z")

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I can’t see Warren as a Biden VP. They disagree on everything, and she adds as much charisma to the ticket as day-old cornflakes. Plus I would think you need at least one person on the ticket who doesn’t look like the model in a Depends commercial.

The Democratic establishment seems to have put their thumb pretty heavily on the scale for the safe candidate. People don’t hate Biden as much as they did Hillary, at least not yet, but that didn’t work out well in 2016. Or in 2004 - Kerry got the nod because he was “not-Bush”, with the observed results.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2020, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elizabeth-warren-has-dropped-out/848969/26 "2020-03-05T19:50:32Z")

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If Trump polls are not looking good in the summer he would not hesitate to dump Pence for someone like Nikki Haley. In fact he may have already decided to dump Pence.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2020, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elizabeth-warren-has-dropped-out/848969/27 "2020-03-05T19:53:47Z")

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> [@Bijou\_Drains](#):
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> If Trump polls are not looking good in the summer he would not hesitate to dump Pence for someone like Nikki Haley. In fact he may have already decided to dump Pence.

Can’t link to it right now, but there’s a CNN talking head who has said exactly this. Trump has put pence in charge of the coronavirus as a set-up for him to fail. Then on the day the Dems introduce their nominee at the convention, Trump calls a press conference in the Rose garden to announce he’s replacing Pence with Haley.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2020, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elizabeth-warren-has-dropped-out/848969/28 "2020-03-05T19:58:27Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> And yet Tulsi Gabbard keeps going, like that gym membership you haven’t gotten around to cancelling.

She’'s still working on that job at Fox News.

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**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2020, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elizabeth-warren-has-dropped-out/848969/29 "2020-03-05T20:14:10Z")

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I’m sad, but also not surprised. I gave “a lot” of money to Warren’s campaign. As in, I usually gave $2 or $5 when they asked. I went on my own and gave a whole $15 the night of that awesome debate.

I’m glad she stopped, looking at the numbers, but super bummed that the numbers got to where they were. I don’t know what people were missing when it came to Warren as a candidate. To me, she was perfect.

I don’t know who to vote for next week in the OH primary. I almost kinda think I don’t care (they’re both (yes, forget Gabbard)) fine to me. I might just vote for Warren anyway…I’d stay home but there’s a local issue I want to support.

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**Author:** ![FlikTheBlue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fliktheblue/32/10972_2.png) [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2020, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elizabeth-warren-has-dropped-out/848969/30 "2020-03-05T20:21:35Z")

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> [@ZipperJJ](#):
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> I’m sad, but also not surprised. I gave “a lot” of money to Warren’s campaign. As in, I usually gave $2 or $5 when they asked. I went on my own and gave a whole $15 the night of that awesome debate.
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> I’m glad she stopped, looking at the numbers, but super bummed that the numbers got to where they were. I don’t know what people were missing when it came to Warren as a candidate. To me, she was perfect.
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> I don’t know who to vote for next week in the OH primary. I almost kinda think I don’t care (they’re both (yes, forget Gabbard)) fine to me. I might just vote for Warren anyway…I’d stay home but there’s a local issue I want to support.

The way this primary has gone down has me rethinking some of my baseline assumptions. I’m now of the opinion that what happened is that Sanders, both in 2016 and this year, has stunted the liberal wing of the Democratic party. Rather than looking at Sanders being the last liberal standing and saying that Warren was splitting his vote, it could very well be that it was Sanders who has been taking votes from other liberal Democrats like Warren. In another universe in which Sanders dropped out last year for whatever reason, we might be down to Warren vs. Biden in a 50/50 matchup.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2020, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elizabeth-warren-has-dropped-out/848969/31 "2020-03-05T20:22:58Z")

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> [@ZipperJJ](#):
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> I’m glad she stopped, looking at the numbers, but super bummed that the numbers got to where they were. I don’t know what people were missing when it came to Warren as a candidate. To me, she was perfect.

All my negatives for her were negatives about her personally (she’s said some things during the campaign that struck me as disingenuous about other candidates), or very minor policy differences. For all measures I can think of, she was our best option for president starting in 2021, would do the best job, run the executive branch with the most competence and efficacy.

But our campaigns are super fucked up. And they don’t look to be any less fucked anytime soon.

I’m pretty sad that she’s out. My wife is furious.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2020, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elizabeth-warren-has-dropped-out/848969/32 "2020-03-05T20:28:00Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> Can’t link to it right now, but there’s a CNN talking head who has said exactly this. Trump has put pence in charge of the coronavirus as a set-up for him to fail. Then on the day the Dems introduce their nominee at the convention, Trump calls a press conference in the Rose garden to announce he’s replacing Pence with Haley.

More fake news from CNN.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Post date:** [March 5, 2020, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elizabeth-warren-has-dropped-out/848969/33 "2020-03-05T20:31:17Z")

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> [@FlikTheBlue](#):
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> The way this primary has gone down has me rethinking some of my baseline assumptions. I’m now of the opinion that what happened is that Sanders, both in 2016 and this year, has stunted the liberal wing of the Democratic party. Rather than looking at Sanders being the last liberal standing and saying that Warren was splitting his vote, it could very well be that it was Sanders who has been taking votes from other liberal Democrats like Warren. In another universe in which Sanders dropped out last year for whatever reason, we might be down to Warren vs. Biden in a 50/50 matchup.

**Flik** , I hadn’t thought of that, but that’s very possible. Had Sanders dropped out after his heart attack, it would likely be Warren v. Biden.

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**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2020, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elizabeth-warren-has-dropped-out/848969/34 "2020-03-05T20:38:28Z")

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I was surprised recently when I was talking to my brother about one of the debates, and he said he didn’t know much about Warren and hadn’t really considered her. My brother’s a 42-year-old very ‘woke’ guy with a good head on his shoulders and almost in lock step with me when it comes to politics. My boyfriend had the same non-reaction as my brother, he’s also a 42-year-old white guy with politics very close to mine. Neither of them are “Bernie Bros” but they would also consider themselves Democratic Socialists, like myself. I don’t know if they were gung-ho for any candidate yet. I think if it were closer, I would have convinced them to vote for Warren in the primary. It’s interesting to note that whatever campaigning Warren was doing, it didn’t reach those two in any meaningful capacity.

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**Author:** ![Hari\_Seldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hari_seldon/32/5173_2.png) [@Hari\_Seldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hari_Seldon)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2020, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elizabeth-warren-has-dropped-out/848969/35 "2020-03-05T20:39:26Z")

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She was my favorite. I identify as a wonk she is the wonkiest candidate I have ever seen. But now it is a straight head to head contest. It looks like Biden has the inside track, but a lot can change in a month. Try to picture what the race looked like a month ago.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2020, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elizabeth-warren-has-dropped-out/848969/36 "2020-03-05T20:42:41Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> More fake news from CNN.

It’s somebody’s opinion on Trump’s strategy.

That’s neither fake nor was it presented as news. It was presented on CNN but it was an opinion from a talking head and not from the network.

Maybe you were making a joke, in which case I apologise, but every significant part of this post is incorrect, which is impressive in its own right.

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2020, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elizabeth-warren-has-dropped-out/848969/37 "2020-03-05T20:49:59Z")

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> [@FlikTheBlue](#):
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> It’s mostly my guess that Biden promised her the VP position. I think there’s a small chance he may have even promised her that he would not run in ‘24 and endorse her for that election.

^^ This.

I’ve been hoping for a Biden/Warren ticket for a while. An experienced politician like Biden and a new progressive woman in the WH is a huge step forward.

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2020, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elizabeth-warren-has-dropped-out/848969/38 "2020-03-05T22:29:36Z")

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With a combined age of 147. My hope is that Biden would promise to make his VP pick someone with politics more in line with Warren’s but young.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2020, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elizabeth-warren-has-dropped-out/848969/39 "2020-03-05T23:56:22Z")

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> [@madmonk28](#):
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> With a combined age of 147. My hope is that Biden would promise to make his VP pick someone with politics more in line with Warren’s but young.

Will, if something happens to both of them, Nancy Pelosi is next in line.

Of course, now that’s a combined age of 226.

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**Author:** ![DinoR](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dinor/32/2821_2.png) [@DinoR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DinoR)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2020, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elizabeth-warren-has-dropped-out/848969/40 "2020-03-06T00:19:05Z")

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> [@E-DUB](#):
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> Amy best meets my “Euchre principle for VP selection”. You count on your partner for one trick.

That truly was a laugh out loud moment. Amy is even from a part of the country where I suspect she would make a good actual euchre partner.

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