# Elizabeth Warren is running for the Senate **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 14, 2011, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elizabeth-warren-is-running-for-the-senate/596250 "2011-09-14T03:59:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elizabeth-warren-is-running-for-the-senate/596250/81 "2012-04-10T20:34:57Z")
> [@erislover](#): > > But I’d really like to see Brown go. I think reasonable Republicans can exist, and he’s not one of them. But he plays one on TV! ---
**Author:** ![waterj2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/858c86/32.png) [@waterj2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/waterj2)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2012, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elizabeth-warren-is-running-for-the-senate/596250/82 "2012-04-11T04:10:15Z")
> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#): > > But he plays one on TV! And across two pages of _Cosmopolitan_. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2012, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elizabeth-warren-is-running-for-the-senate/596250/83 "2012-04-11T12:00:22Z")
> [@erislover](#): > > MA is not the democratic fortress everyone makes it out to be, and that doesn’t really bother me because it keeps people engaged. But I’d really like to see Brown go. I think reasonable Republicans can exist, and he’s not one of them. But… but.. pickup truck. ---
**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2012, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elizabeth-warren-is-running-for-the-senate/596250/84 "2012-04-14T20:04:15Z")
> [@erislover](#): > > Brown would vote straight republican if he thought it’d be ok. Instead he’s just careful to vote away from the party on issues where it doesn’t matter, or cosponsor something more or less innocuous. When the vote matters, he’s always republican. And that’s fine if a party member wants to vote with the party. I don’t fault him on that. But it’s a load of shit that he’s some kind of independent thinker just doin’ what’s best for the state, with his modest truck loaded with humble pie, who just happens to be republican. > > MA is not the democratic fortress everyone makes it out to be, and that doesn’t really bother me because it keeps people engaged. But I’d really like to see Brown go. I think reasonable Republicans can exist, and he’s not one of them. Why is he not reasonable? Unless your definition of “reasonable Republican” encompasses only Arlen Specter. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2012, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elizabeth-warren-is-running-for-the-senate/596250/85 "2012-04-14T21:47:07Z")
> [@Lakai](#): > > God I hope she wins. > > She’s saying everything I hoped Obama would say on the economy and she’s doing it beautifully. Warren in 2016! (Since it’s already been proven a freshman senator can take the WH.) ---
**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elizabeth-warren-is-running-for-the-senate/596250/86 "2012-05-30T00:14:18Z")
Some updating time: Little comment is needed of course on the Cherokee affair with regards to Elizabeth Warren-apparently having certain “racial characteristics” with little documentary evidence qualifies you to be an Amerindian. In addition, it appears Ms. Warren has a challenge from the left (apparently to some she is not leftist enough): [http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/27/us/politics/democrat-challenges-elizabeth-warren-in-massachusetts.html](http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/27/us/politics/democrat-challenges-elizabeth-warren-in-massachusetts.html). Perhaps Marisa DeFranco can pull a Sharron Angle or a Christine O’Donnell… _Keeps fingers crossed_ ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elizabeth-warren-is-running-for-the-senate/596250/87 "2012-05-30T18:53:34Z")
IIRC Elizabeth Warren claimed as much Cherokee ancestry as the current chief of the Cherokee nation. I suppose they could create another birther incident out of it but wtf did she get out of being 1/16 cherokee? ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elizabeth-warren-is-running-for-the-senate/596250/88 "2012-05-30T19:12:24Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > IIRC Elizabeth Warren claimed as much Cherokee ancestry as the current chief of the Cherokee nation. I suppose they could create another birther incident out of it but wtf did she get out of being 1/16 cherokee? If she doesn’t get into the Senate, Plan B is to open a casino? ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elizabeth-warren-is-running-for-the-senate/596250/89 "2012-05-30T20:44:30Z")
Lots of people have some small fraction of Native American ancestry. How is this relevant? ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elizabeth-warren-is-running-for-the-senate/596250/90 "2012-05-30T23:38:08Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Lots of people have some small fraction of Native American ancestry. How is this relevant? It’s only relevant that she claimed it with the only evidence being her grandmother’s “high cheekbones”, and family lore. There is no documentation. She was touted as one the universities “women of color”. But it’s only going to be a distraction if she lets it be. She should just chalk it up as a mistake, and move on. Few, if any, of her potential voters area going to care even if many, if not most, of Brown’s potential voters care. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elizabeth-warren-is-running-for-the-senate/596250/91 "2012-05-30T23:58:13Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > It’s only relevant that she claimed it with the only evidence being her grandmother’s “high cheekbones”, and family lore. There is no documentation. She was touted as one the universities “women of color”. > > But it’s only going to be a distraction if she lets it be. She should just chalk it up as a mistake, and move on. Few, if any, of her potential voters area going to care even if many, if not most, of Brown’s potential voters care. Why would Brown’s potential voters care? ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elizabeth-warren-is-running-for-the-senate/596250/92 "2012-05-31T00:26:57Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Why would Brown’s potential voters care? Because she’s a Democrat. By “care”, I meant would make a big deal about it, even though they wouldn’t vote for her anyway. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elizabeth-warren-is-running-for-the-senate/596250/93 "2012-05-31T01:57:56Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Because she’s a Democrat. By “care”, I meant would make a big deal about it, even though they wouldn’t vote for her anyway. “Make a big deal” about her having Indian blood, or about her purportedly claiming it on dubious grounds for no apparent reason? ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elizabeth-warren-is-running-for-the-senate/596250/94 "2012-05-31T02:14:47Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > “Make a big deal” about her having Indian blood, or about her purportedly claiming it on dubious grounds for no apparent reason? The latter, except the apparent reason would be to gain some advantage by claiming minority status when said status is bogus. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elizabeth-warren-is-running-for-the-senate/596250/95 "2012-05-31T03:00:18Z")
Unleash Elizabeth Warren! Many pork scalps will hang in her wiki up! ---
**Author:** ![MandaJo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac91a4/32.png) [@MandaJo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MandaJo)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 10:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elizabeth-warren-is-running-for-the-senate/596250/96 "2012-05-31T10:48:27Z")
It’s worth noting that she is from Oklahoma, where tons of people have Indian ancestry and where, up until the Indian casinos started pulling in money, no one really worried about documentation. ---
**Author:** ![Debaser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3da27b/32.png) [@Debaser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Debaser)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elizabeth-warren-is-running-for-the-senate/596250/97 "2012-05-31T12:44:41Z")
It’s really sad that the SDMB has become such a leftist echo chamber that people here honestly don’t have a clue about such a major scandal. Warren lied about being a Native American to get into Harvard. This is huge, and people in MA are outraged about it. It’s all talk radio has been talking about. Not just conservative talk, either. Eagan and Braude, who are liberals, talk about this scandal every morning. In the early 1990s Harvard was in trouble regarding affirmative action. A black professor had quit in protest over not enough minority faculty. They needed more minority professors. Warren was listing herself in a directory that schools used to find minority hires beginning in 1986. Once they hired Warren in 1992, Harvard began reporting her as a minority to the feds every year. Warren only stopped listing herself in the minority directory once she landed the tenured job at Harvard in 1995. Warren has changed her story multiple times already, and won’t talk about this to the press. She’s probably finished. It’s MA, so anything is possible, but she shouldn’t survive this scandal if there is any sense of justice in the minds of the voters. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elizabeth-warren-is-running-for-the-senate/596250/98 "2012-05-31T13:01:01Z")
If she started listing herself as part Native American in 1986, but was not hired by Harvard until 1992, how can you say “she lied to get into Harvard”? She believed based on family tradition to be part Native American. No doubt she hoped that claiming that ancestry would help her get hired on somewhere, but she honestly believed it to be true. I remember when I was applying for college scholarships my parents and I discussed the same thing because of a more tenuous claim to Indian ancestry (I ended up not trying to claim it). At worst, it was an error in judgement. But to claim “she’s probably finished” is wishful thinking. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elizabeth-warren-is-running-for-the-senate/596250/99 "2012-05-31T13:41:58Z")
Warren speak with forked tongue. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elizabeth-warren-is-running-for-the-senate/596250/100 "2012-05-31T13:54:50Z")
And now for actual cites on how this is effecting the race. [Washington Post](http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/elizabeth-warren-draws-even-in-latest-poll-of-massachusetts-senate-race/2012/05/24/gJQAAnG3nU_story.html): > [@](#): > > A new poll from Suffolk University/7NEWS finds Sen. Scott Brown (R) and Harvard Law Professor Elizabeth Warren (D) in a dead heat, 48 percent to 47 percent. Suffolk last polled the race in February and found Brown had a nine-point lead. > [@](#): > > Of those who were aware of the story, 49 percent said Warren was telling the truth about being part Native American; 28 percent said she was not telling the truth; and 23 percent weren’t sure. Forty-one percent thought Warren benefited by listing herself as a minority in law school directories, while 45 percent said she did not. > > But 69 percent of likely voters said that Warren’s Native American heritage listing is not a significant story, while 27 percent said that it is. [Direct link to Suffolk University poll.](http://www.suffolk.edu/offices/52625.html) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elizabeth-warren-is-running-for-the-senate/596250.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elizabeth-warren-is-running-for-the-senate/596250.md?page=6)