# Ellen Cherry, question about the jokes in the Dark Knight shooting thread. **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [July 20, 2012, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ellen-cherry-question-about-the-jokes-in-the-dark-knight-shooting-thread/628855 "2012-07-20T14:57:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2012, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ellen-cherry-question-about-the-jokes-in-the-dark-knight-shooting-thread/628855/61 "2012-07-20T19:02:39Z")
I don’t approve of these jokes even if a lot of time passes generally such as Holocaust jokes for example. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2012, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ellen-cherry-question-about-the-jokes-in-the-dark-knight-shooting-thread/628855/62 "2012-07-20T19:32:17Z")
> [@The\_Hamster\_King](#): > > Jesus. If you’re going to be an insensitive asshole and joke about recent tragedy, at least OWN your assholishness. Don’t try to hide behind “I use humor as a coping mechanism”. :rolleyes: Along the same vein, how about we all stop hiding behind Ellen’s apron strings and just fucking pit anyone that deeply offends us, but is still within the rules? Why must we constantly cry to the moderators to do what we are fully capable of doing on our own? If someone says something inappropriate, then just call them on it. If they continue doing so, pit them. If they keep it up, then just ignore them. Holy hell - act like adults! ---
**Author:** ![Ellen\_Cherry](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellen_cherry/32/3600_2.png) [@Ellen\_Cherry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellen_Cherry)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2012, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ellen-cherry-question-about-the-jokes-in-the-dark-knight-shooting-thread/628855/63 "2012-07-20T20:17:58Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > … stop hiding behind Ellen’s apron strings … [Now stop that!](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v180/Soileau/scoldingapron.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2012, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ellen-cherry-question-about-the-jokes-in-the-dark-knight-shooting-thread/628855/64 "2012-07-20T20:37:12Z")
I’m not sure where this thread falls in the timeline. > **[Sadly, Nation Knows Exactly How Colorado Shooting's Aftermath Will Play Out](https://www.theonion.com/sadly-nation-knows-exactly-how-colorado-shootings-afte-1819573644)** > > WASHINGTON—Americans across the nation confirmed today that, unfortunately, due to their extreme familiarity with the type of tragedy that occurred in a Colorado movie theater last night, they sadly know exactly how the events following the horrific... ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2012, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ellen-cherry-question-about-the-jokes-in-the-dark-knight-shooting-thread/628855/65 "2012-07-20T20:38:17Z")
> [@Ellen\_Cherry](#): > > [Now stop that!](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v180/Soileau/scoldingapron.jpg) I will now forever think of you exactly like that. ---
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2012, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ellen-cherry-question-about-the-jokes-in-the-dark-knight-shooting-thread/628855/66 "2012-07-20T20:53:30Z")
> [@Bob Ducca](#): > > Could be worse, I suppose. Anyone else see [the @CelebBoutique tweet](https://twitter.com/marikatogo/status/226383512691933184/photo/1/large)? They just deleted it but it was up for about an hour. Looks like an intern will be dusting off their ol’ resume. What did it say? ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2012, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ellen-cherry-question-about-the-jokes-in-the-dark-knight-shooting-thread/628855/67 "2012-07-20T20:57:43Z")
> [@Rilchiam](#): > > What did it say? Did you not click on the link? That you quoted? ---
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2012, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ellen-cherry-question-about-the-jokes-in-the-dark-knight-shooting-thread/628855/68 "2012-07-20T21:09:33Z")
Yes, and all I got was some jazz about a “Kim K inspired dress” and a further link that didn’t work (for me). ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2012, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ellen-cherry-question-about-the-jokes-in-the-dark-knight-shooting-thread/628855/69 "2012-07-20T21:10:36Z")
> [@Rilchiam](#): > > Yes, and all I got was some jazz about a “Kim K inspired dress” and a further link that didn’t work (for me). The shooting was in Aurora, Colorado. Notice the name of the dress? ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2012, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ellen-cherry-question-about-the-jokes-in-the-dark-knight-shooting-thread/628855/70 "2012-07-20T21:15:33Z")
> [@Bob Ducca](#): > > Could be worse, I suppose. Anyone else see [the @CelebBoutique tweet](https://twitter.com/marikatogo/status/226383512691933184/photo/1/large)? They just deleted it but it was up for about an hour. Looks like an intern will be dusting off their ol’ resume. And learned a lesson about allowing Twitter trends to dictate marketing strategy. ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2012, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ellen-cherry-question-about-the-jokes-in-the-dark-knight-shooting-thread/628855/71 "2012-07-20T21:15:42Z")
> [@Rilchiam](#): > > Yes, and all I got was some jazz about a “Kim K inspired dress” and a further link that didn’t work (for me). Perhaps you don’t understand how Twitter works. When something is a hot topic on Twitter, there are a list of “Trending Topics” that are listed on the homepage. People use hashtags (#) for a topic so that anyone can easily find all Tweets about that topic. This morning, the hashtag #Aurora was trending, for obvious reasons (I hope). Some asshat employee at Celeb Boutique saw that #Aurora was trending and made a joke about it being about their new Kim Kardashian item. I hope, hope, hope, that it was just a dumb intern that didn’t investigate why #Aurora was trending. The “wink” in the tweet makes it seem as if they knew why, but still thought it would be a cute joke to make. I don’t know though. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2012, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ellen-cherry-question-about-the-jokes-in-the-dark-knight-shooting-thread/628855/72 "2012-07-20T21:15:53Z")
It’s not that horrifying a joke. ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2012, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ellen-cherry-question-about-the-jokes-in-the-dark-knight-shooting-thread/628855/73 "2012-07-20T21:20:05Z")
[More info on the Celeb Boutique kerfuffle.](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/20/celebboutique-tweet-colorado-batman-shooting_n_1690308.html) ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2012, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ellen-cherry-question-about-the-jokes-in-the-dark-knight-shooting-thread/628855/74 "2012-07-20T21:26:25Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > It’s not that horrifying a joke. No, not horrifying - but also not something you want PR-wise. ---
**Author:** ![Carmady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f04885/32.png) [@Carmady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carmady)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2012, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ellen-cherry-question-about-the-jokes-in-the-dark-knight-shooting-thread/628855/75 "2012-07-20T21:42:19Z")
I have to admit, for some reason the early jokes did bother me. 4:33AM: Dopers in Aurora CO – Everybody Safe? 4:42AM: I wasn’t prepared for that. (the very next post) I think it was because it came right after a post asking if people from this board were safe, which sort of added a personal element. However, since 2 threads were merged it may be that these 2 posts came from different threads. If you read it that way it makes a difference. ---
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2012, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ellen-cherry-question-about-the-jokes-in-the-dark-knight-shooting-thread/628855/76 "2012-07-20T21:43:14Z")
I see. Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2012, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ellen-cherry-question-about-the-jokes-in-the-dark-knight-shooting-thread/628855/77 "2012-07-20T21:47:45Z")
Nzinga, I respect you as a poster here… I like yer style, as a feller says. And I loves me some gallows humor, to a fault. But there’s something about the human condition, that when a fluke act of horror due to absolute, premeditated malevolence, that it demonstrates very real, but vague, stages of emotional digestion you go through despite how removed you may be from the events. I think the “too soon” mentality is mostly due to the initial shock phase of public awareness (YMMV). Despite horrendous things happening all over the earth, every day, these kinds of events remind us how fucked up things can really get, and it’s a check against our cynicism and empathy. Now, even more than a decade since 9/11 or even the Columbine shootings, a certain level of jokes just aren’t funny. I think it’s not so much that it’s “too soon,” as that it’s “too close,” especially when it goes down at a public place we can all relate to. Anyhow, we can always joke about the Titanic or the Hindenberg. That shit was hilarious. ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2012, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ellen-cherry-question-about-the-jokes-in-the-dark-knight-shooting-thread/628855/78 "2012-07-20T22:10:02Z")
And to be perfectly forthcoming, when my wife hit me with the news, the first thing out of my mouth was, “Did they at least get to see the whole movie?” Now, that’s horribly insensitive out of context, but because my wife _knows_ me, and knows I’m saying that because I’m a huge movie buff, and if I was at the midnight screening of a highly anticipated movie I’ve been excitedly waiting a few years to see, that I’d be totally bummed to be shot and killed, myself, before it even began. It wasn’t a joke so much as it was a “here’s how I relate” to such a thing in a superficial, petty way. ---
**Author:** ![Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mean_mr.mustard/32/3865_2.png) [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mean_Mr.Mustard)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2012, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ellen-cherry-question-about-the-jokes-in-the-dark-knight-shooting-thread/628855/79 "2012-07-20T22:29:29Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > I’m not sure where this thread falls in the timeline. > > [http://www.theonion.com/articles/sadly-nation-knows-exactly-how-colorado-shootings,28857/](http://www.theonion.com/articles/sadly-nation-knows-exactly-how-colorado-shootings,28857/) I think this piece is more commentary than humor. And thanks for explaining how Twitter works, **Bob Ducca** ; until your post, I was totally confused about the Aurora Trending bizness and why many were aghast. mmm ---
**Author:** ![RyJae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9d8465/32.png) [@RyJae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RyJae)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2012, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ellen-cherry-question-about-the-jokes-in-the-dark-knight-shooting-thread/628855/80 "2012-07-20T22:36:35Z")
I think a talking duck learned a hard lesson about what is to quick to joke and what isn’t. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ellen-cherry-question-about-the-jokes-in-the-dark-knight-shooting-thread/628855.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ellen-cherry-question-about-the-jokes-in-the-dark-knight-shooting-thread/628855.md?page=5)