# elucidator, come on down **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 17, 2009, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator-come-on-down/503309 "2009-07-17T04:53:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![sleestak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/919ad9/32.png) [@sleestak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sleestak)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2009, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator-come-on-down/503309/1 "2009-07-17T04:53:52Z")
[Link](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11347886&postcount=43). I am not sure if you are aware but every time you drop the whole ‘tighty-righty cootie bomb’ crap it makes you look like a full on tool. If your goal is to convince people that your side of the argument is correct, using third grade insults in a debate isn’t the way to do it. Of course, in the linked thread you don’t actually make any arguments so your best bet might be to post only when you have something to say instead of posting drive by snipes and one line posts with a link. Slee ---
**Author:** ![Covered\_In\_Bees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7ab992/32.png) [@Covered\_In\_Bees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covered_In_Bees)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2009, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator-come-on-down/503309/2 "2009-07-17T04:59:44Z")
Wait, are you trying to tell me that **elucidator** is actually a person? Not an advanced bot of some sort that strings randomly-generated words together to make semi-coherent posts? Wow, that’s news to me. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2009, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator-come-on-down/503309/3 "2009-07-17T05:10:35Z")
Well, I did reply with a link, and by the time \*\*elucidator \*\*responded it was already demonstrated that the ‘tighty-righty cootie bomb’ cite was lying by omission (this is the internet, not updating a site after so many years does show me how far the lie is going). And a site that it seems gave a virus alert. After demonstrating that the cite was very likely just a Google vomit. I think joking about the site is perfectly OK. So get back to your bit on that lousy movie **sleestak**. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tao_s_Revenge)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2009, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator-come-on-down/503309/4 "2009-07-17T05:23:02Z")
I’ve found **elucidator** to be aptly named. Some of his jokes are actually pretty thought provoking. Anyway **Shodan** deserved the snark for using such a biased source. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2009, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator-come-on-down/503309/5 "2009-07-17T05:50:43Z")
Sometimes it is the duty of the good to point out the obvious and give a kick in the nuts to assholes. The OP clearly objects to the exercise of right of people to do that. Such objections are only made by the sort of people for whose benefit the rules of polite conversation are made. Civilization has made a trade: American lefties are going to occasionally call names. American righties are going to always call names and hope that they never get prosecuted for their death squads like Cheney’s assassination team and terrorist groups like Operation Rescue. ---
**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2009, 7:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator-come-on-down/503309/6 "2009-07-17T07:43:28Z")
Are you kidding? ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2009, 7:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator-come-on-down/503309/7 "2009-07-17T07:48:26Z")
I do think **elucidator** would be a better advocate for his position if he cut down on the sarcasm and focused more on actually rebutting his opponents’ cases. ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2009, 7:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator-come-on-down/503309/8 "2009-07-17T07:59:58Z")
> [@sleestak](#): > > I am not sure if you are aware but every time you drop the whole ‘tighty-righty cootie bomb’ crap it makes you look like a full on tool. > [@](#): > > July 15, 2009 > > Washington > > You can’t judge a judge by her cover. > > Despite the best efforts of DIRTY JEWS to root out any sign that [ARYAN] Sonia Sotomayor has emotions that color her views on the law, the Bronx Bomber kept a robotic mask in place. > > A wise ARYAN woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not know that a gaggle of DIRTY JEWS afraid of extinction are out to trip her up. > > After all, these DIRTY JEWS have never needed to speak inspirational words to others like them, as Sotomayor has done. They’ve had codes, handshakes and clubs to do that. > > So when DIRTY JEW Senator Jon Kyl, without so much as a howdy-do, went at Sotomayor, and soon was asking her if she agreed with Barack Obama’s contention, when he voted against John Roberts, that a judge’s heart is important, the would-be justice was as adroit as her idol Nancy Drew. > > [ARYAN] President Obama wants Sotomayor, naturally, to bring a fresh perspective to the court. It was a disgrace that W. appointed two DIRTY JEWS to a court stocked with DIRTY JEWS. And Sotomayor made it clear that she provides some spicy seasoning to a bench when she said in a speech: “I simply do not know exactly what the difference will be in my judging, but I accept there will be some based on gender and my ARYAN heritage.” … [http://sweetness-light.com/](http://sweetness-light.com/) ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2009, 8:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator-come-on-down/503309/9 "2009-07-17T08:22:26Z")
> [@sleestak](#): > > [Link](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11347886&postcount=43). > > I am not sure if you are aware but every time you drop the whole ‘tighty-righty cootie bomb’ crap it makes you look like a full on tool. I did not know vaginas had a right hand thread… ---
**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2009, 8:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator-come-on-down/503309/10 "2009-07-17T08:26:41Z")
**Squink** , was there something more you to your post? The quote is a bit out of context, and Drudge-like in its misleadingness. The Web site was taking umbrage with a Maureen Dowd editorial in which she referred to “a gaggle of white Republican men… .” The Aryan/Jew references come across in a different light if you include the lead-in quote from the page: > [@](#): > > Still, when was the last time we have seen such a vicious hatred for a group of law-abiding people ever expressed as commonly as it is today? And in such allegedly respectable media outlets such as the New York Times? > > As a thought experiment, let’s replace “white men” and “Republican” with “dirty Jews.” And let’s replace “Latina” and “Democrat” with “Aryan. ” (Adding in a few that are strongly implied.) I have no idea if the site is as batshit (or more) as the Freepers or as ghastly as the Stormers, but I don’t think that quote demonstrates it. ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2009, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator-come-on-down/503309/11 "2009-07-17T11:55:24Z")
> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#): > > Sometimes it is the duty of the good to point out the obvious and give a kick in the nuts to assholes. Assholes with nuts? That’s an anatomical nightmare! ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2009, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator-come-on-down/503309/12 "2009-07-17T13:51:32Z")
> [@Captain\_Amazing](#): > > I do think **elucidator** would be a better advocate for his position if he cut down on the sarcasm and focused more on actually rebutting his opponents’ cases. I recall an ancient episode of Siskel & Ebert, back when it was still called _At the Movies_, in which they reviewed a Cheech & Chong movie (probably _Still Smokin_’, based on the time frame). They both agreed that they didn’t like the movie, but felt that Cheech & Chong movies would be much more enjoyable if they’d get rid of all the drug humor and stop saying “man.” They apparently weren’t kidding, either. Some of us use sarcasm as a tenderizer. Softens them up a bit, so our more graphomanic brethren—with their cites and logic and Field Guide to Rhetorical Fallacies—can come along and deliver the _coup de grâce_. (Not to speak for **elucidator** , of course—his English is coming along nicely these days…) ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2009, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator-come-on-down/503309/13 "2009-07-17T13:51:45Z")
> [@Captain\_Amazing](#): > > I do think **elucidator** would be a better advocate for his position if he cut down on the sarcasm and focused more on actually rebutting his opponents’ cases. Why? The fucker’s funny. Let him let his Freak Flag fly. ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2009, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator-come-on-down/503309/14 "2009-07-17T13:52:02Z")
> [@Rhythmdvl](#): > > The Aryan/Jew references come across in a different light if you include the lead-in quote from the page:… Not really, they still tell me that the people putting together the page are major league assholes. Seriously, I’d rather have single click blind links to hardcore porn than to nasty sites like that. Obviously YMMV, but I don’t think it’s unreasonable to expect a little discretion in what debaters link to, or at least a fucking _warning_. ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2009, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator-come-on-down/503309/15 "2009-07-17T13:53:50Z")
Oh, **luci** is a real person all right. Can’t speak for him but I am guessing the sarcasm comes from a long time of trying reasonable rational discourse and failing…so one resorts to one-liners and sarcasm. I can’t entirely blame him, to be honest. Personally I find him funny as hell. Even though I don’t always get all of his jokes (sorry, **luci** , some of them refer to stuff well before my time). ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Moto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de0a6/32.png) [@Mr.Moto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Moto)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2009, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator-come-on-down/503309/16 "2009-07-17T14:00:33Z")
> [@Anaamika](#): > > Personally I find him funny as hell. Even though I don’t always get all of his jokes (sorry, **luci** , some of them refer to stuff well before my time). Why should you apologize for him being older than God’s parents? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tao_s_Revenge)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2009, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator-come-on-down/503309/17 "2009-07-17T14:03:45Z")
> [@Rhythmdvl](#): > > **Squink** , was there something more you to your post? The quote is a bit out of context, and Drudge-like in its misleadingness. > > The Web site was taking umbrage with a Maureen Dowd editorial in which she referred to “a gaggle of white Republican men… .” The Aryan/Jew references come across in a different light if you include the lead-in quote from the page: > > I have no idea if the site is as batshit (or more) as the Freepers or as ghastly as the Stormers, but I don’t think that quote demonstrates it. Republicans, as a group, are not law abiding and infact are unrepentant war criminals. The whole party deserves an international war crimes tribunal. Utter pieces of shit they are. ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2009, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator-come-on-down/503309/18 "2009-07-17T14:09:53Z")
> [@Mr.Moto](#): > > Why should you apologize for him being older than God’s parents? Well, you know, I was raised to respect my elders, even Grandpa. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2009, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator-come-on-down/503309/19 "2009-07-17T14:17:45Z")
**Luci** ’s blessing and his curse is that he’s a boomer and a 60’s radical, a species I have a deep familiarity with (hi Dad!). They can be incredibly annoying at times, but also very funny, and they’ve been known to produce the occasional insight. Plus, their taste in music is impeccable. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Moto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de0a6/32.png) [@Mr.Moto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Moto)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2009, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator-come-on-down/503309/20 "2009-07-17T14:35:39Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > Plus, their taste in music is impeccable. Hit and miss, big time. I was never fond of Vanilla Fudge, Strawberry Alarm Clock and the Electric Prunes, and this is just a short list. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator-come-on-down/503309.md?page=2)