# elucidator, You Are The Ultimate Troll

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator-you-are-the-ultimate-troll/723162>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 22, 2015, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator-you-are-the-ultimate-troll/723162 "2015-06-22T16:29:14Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2015, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator-you-are-the-ultimate-troll/723162/21 "2015-06-22T20:16:55Z")

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Some sort of lifetime non-recognition award, then.

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**Author:** ![xenophon41](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xenophon41/32/253_2.png) [@xenophon41](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xenophon41)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2015, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator-you-are-the-ultimate-troll/723162/22 "2015-06-22T20:16:59Z")

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\*\*andros \*\*_who_?

(Happy?)

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2015, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator-you-are-the-ultimate-troll/723162/23 "2015-06-22T20:32:49Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> Why don’t I ever get a Pit thread? It’s not like I’ve added anything of substance in the last 15 years either.

Give me a few minutes to gather material and I’ll Pit you, and it won’t be nearly as lame as the few times that I’ve been Pitted.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2015, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator-you-are-the-ultimate-troll/723162/24 "2015-06-22T20:33:55Z")

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> [@Ravenman](#):
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> I have a hard time remembering a lot of posters by their reputation, but isn’t **Klaatu** one of the resident gold plated bitches around here?

Well, **Klaatu** barada nikto, y’know.

Excuse me, I think Michael Rennie is getting ill.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2015, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator-you-are-the-ultimate-troll/723162/25 "2015-06-22T20:51:16Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> Why don’t I ever get a Pit thread? It’s not like I’ve added anything of substance in the last 15 years either.

It will probably be shortly closed and I might get a warning for it, but [here you go.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=760226)

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2015, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator-you-are-the-ultimate-troll/723162/26 "2015-06-22T20:56:21Z")

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> [@Klaatu](#):
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> You are not clever or funny …

A lot of the time he is. Not always, but nobody is 100% anything. Calling him a troll is just fucking stupid, though.

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**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2015, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator-you-are-the-ultimate-troll/723162/27 "2015-06-22T21:10:42Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> Why don’t I ever get a Pit thread? It’s not like I’ve added anything of substance in the last 15 years either.

Oh jesus, here we go _again_ with **Jack** and his whining. Why can’t you just give it a rest already??

> [@andros](#):
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> Right?? I mean, I know I’m not nearly prolific enough to qualify as “gadfly,” but some appreciation for my entire lack of relevance would be nice once in a fucking while.

And then there’s **andros** , always late to party, hitching on to someone else’s wagon. Come up with an original post for once, dammit!

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2015, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator-you-are-the-ultimate-troll/723162/28 "2015-06-22T21:14:08Z")

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I can’t wait for \*\*elucidator \*\*to wake up from his nap and get in on all the fun.

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2015, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator-you-are-the-ultimate-troll/723162/29 "2015-06-22T21:14:08Z")

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:sniff:

**xeno** and **TroutMan** , you’re the best friends a guy could have.

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**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2015, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator-you-are-the-ultimate-troll/723162/30 "2015-06-22T21:27:47Z")

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I find **'luci’s** drive bys funny. Honestly, he’s a lot better at jokes than he is at arguing (and I say that as someone whose usually on his side of the argument), so I think we’d be better off if he strove to be less substantive.

Also…

> [@Klaatu](#):
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> a lame ass response that sounds like you think you are trying to be clever and funny.

So there’s two common ways to mock someone’s attempt at humor, you can say they’re “trying” to be funny (the impliciation being that they aren’t succeeding) or you can say they “think” they’re being funny (the implication being that they aren’t and it makes them sound mildly delusional to boot).

But you can’t just blindly stick both constructions together. **Eulicidator** may not be funny, he may even think he’s funny but not be, but surely he at least knows if he’s trying to be funny or not.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2015, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator-you-are-the-ultimate-troll/723162/31 "2015-06-22T21:54:07Z")

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I start every day with a cup of coffee and the latest \*\*elucidator \*\*post. It’s how I keep my sunny disposition all day.

“All the Wowee in Maui”; by george, [he’s done it again](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18428262&postcount=1554). 😃

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**Author:** ![camille](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/22d042/32.png) [@camille](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/camille)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2015, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator-you-are-the-ultimate-troll/723162/32 "2015-06-22T22:06:40Z")

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I love him, and I want to have his children. His posts speak to my soul.

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**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2015, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator-you-are-the-ultimate-troll/723162/33 "2015-06-22T22:50:20Z")

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The twin missions of this board are fighting ignorance and making wisecracks. Jokes are not trolling, except to the severely humor impaired.

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**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2015, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator-you-are-the-ultimate-troll/723162/34 "2015-06-22T23:14:04Z")

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I think ' **luci** gave a fairly lucid defense of his usual posting style in a thread I was in some years back. (Fuck, I’ve been reading what you dopes have to say for over a decade now. Weird.) He essentially said that some minds are open to paragraphs and others are open to just the right line of poetry.

People have different judgments about how often he’s on and how often he’s off. But it’s a lot easier to write a paragraph of rational argument than it is to try to stilletto your way into another’s mind through some emotional or aesthetic track instead of stale argument.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2015, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator-you-are-the-ultimate-troll/723162/35 "2015-06-22T23:23:10Z")

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I remember the times when **luci’s** posts made me laugh. **Klaatu** , I’m sorry to say I’m drawing a blank on. But I’ve got an open mind… maybe you could link to four of five of your best, and we’ll make it a proper contest?

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**Author:** ![slumtrimpet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@slumtrimpet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slumtrimpet)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2015, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator-you-are-the-ultimate-troll/723162/36 "2015-06-22T23:49:29Z")

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**elucidator** is one of the bright points of The Dope. I would happily marry him if I wasn’t already.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2015, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator-you-are-the-ultimate-troll/723162/37 "2015-06-23T00:14:53Z")

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He’s not a troll. The drive-bys are usually funny. Short and sweet wins the day. Personally, I find the posts that stray into paragraph territory to be, more often than not, impossible to understand. I know I’m not the only one.

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**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2015, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator-you-are-the-ultimate-troll/723162/38 "2015-06-23T00:40:12Z")

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**luci** is OK. He WAS funnier 5-10 years ago. He was a 9/10 at that time. His heart isn’t in it these days. I blame Obama.

[sub]Seriously, I blame Obama. When you no longer have targets as big as Bush/Chaney et al, you have a harder time. [/sub]

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Fun\_Ball](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_fun_ball/32/17664_2.png) [@Happy\_Fun\_Ball](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Fun_Ball)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2015, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator-you-are-the-ultimate-troll/723162/39 "2015-06-23T00:44:03Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> Nor gay.

I see what you did.

Regarding the OP: seriously lame and wrong besides.

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2015, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator-you-are-the-ultimate-troll/723162/40 "2015-06-23T01:04:26Z")

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**Elucidator** is my absolute favorite poster here on the Straight Dope, after John Mace, samclem, and Happy Fun Ball.

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