# elucidator, You Are The Ultimate Troll **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 22, 2015, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator-you-are-the-ultimate-troll/723162 "2015-06-22T16:29:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2015, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator-you-are-the-ultimate-troll/723162/61 "2015-06-23T13:06:36Z")
> [@Captain\_Amazing](#): > > I don’t think he’s a troll, but he does sometimes, and he’s not the only one, confuse sarcasm for argument. It seems to me that a lot of his posts tend to be dismissive and disrespectful to the people he disagrees with. Many of those people are not that worthy of respect. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2015, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator-you-are-the-ultimate-troll/723162/62 "2015-06-23T13:30:36Z")
**samclem, Happy Fun Ball** : Ahhh, put it back in yer pants, I just picked the three people who posted right before me. Though maybe we should all get together and form one of these “Sting quartets” **luci** mentioned. Sounds like it could be a gas. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2015, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator-you-are-the-ultimate-troll/723162/63 "2015-06-23T14:40:44Z")
> [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > I don’t think this word means what you think it means. Indeed. [Trolls](http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Troll) do not merely snark, trolls **provoke.** > [@](#): > > A gadfly screws with other people because it’s amusing. Then there is the infamous Troll. What separates this character from a gadfly is that what they do is not supposed to be funny—or at least not to anyone but themselves. It’s just cruel. All they want to do is see someone suffer or make a fool of themselves. > > The term trolling comes from fishing (i.e. trawling), of all things. The idea is that you set out some bait and watch as your victim grabs it and writhes for your amusement. Malcontents on the internet protected by anonymity have been doing this for years, hence the widespread usage of the term. When encountered in a game, a troll is often called a Griefer. While the word and concept are based on these beginnings, the term has spread from there such that it has become a widely used term to discuss pointlessly cruel characters. **elucidator** is not that. ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2015, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator-you-are-the-ultimate-troll/723162/64 "2015-06-23T16:39:50Z")
We can get in trouble now for making pointless jokes instead of making substantive contributions? Well, shit me. I guess I’ll be going then. ---
**Author:** ![August\_West](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/august_west/32/18069_2.png) [@August\_West](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/August_West)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2015, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator-you-are-the-ultimate-troll/723162/65 "2015-06-23T16:46:40Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > We’ve had a few volunteers, but can we agree that **VT** described every single poster in this thread? Get your hands up–we know how highly you think of yourselves. This is absurd. I’m not “prolific”. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2015, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator-you-are-the-ultimate-troll/723162/66 "2015-06-23T17:13:43Z")
Well, this has been a spot of fun, hasn’t it? Good to know I can bring a bit of cheer to otherwise drab and dreary lives. Hell, I’d give you all a kitten if I could! Except for **Vinny** , because the shelters won’t let him have any more because of his…experiments. Like having an unusual hobby is big deal, or something! ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2015, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator-you-are-the-ultimate-troll/723162/67 "2015-06-23T17:23:02Z")
Hang in there, baby! ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2015, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator-you-are-the-ultimate-troll/723162/68 "2015-06-23T17:25:09Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Well, this has been a spot of fun, hasn’t it? Not for Klaatu. Your angel peed in his corn flakes. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2015, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator-you-are-the-ultimate-troll/723162/69 "2015-06-23T19:10:51Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > Though maybe we should all get together and form one of these “Sting quartets” **luci** mentioned. Sounds like it could be a gas. But won’t poor Trudie be sore? Or are we looking to just really piss off Ric Flair? . ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2015, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator-you-are-the-ultimate-troll/723162/70 "2015-06-23T23:16:08Z")
Troll doesn’t mean, “posting stuff I disagree with,” much as many folks seem to wish it did. **elucidator** is an awful debater, but he’s not a troll. He’s funny, but only 60% as funny as he thinks he is. Still, that’s a fair helping of funny. ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2015, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator-you-are-the-ultimate-troll/723162/71 "2015-06-24T00:13:28Z")
My most embarrassing moment here at the Dope was trying to make a joke in front of elucidator and completely whiffing it. I still beat myself up over it. ---
**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2015, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator-you-are-the-ultimate-troll/723162/72 "2015-06-24T00:27:37Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > **elucidator** is an awful debater, but he’s not a troll. He’s funny, but only 60% as funny as he thinks he is. Still, that’s a fair helping of funny. The problem is that you have only 50% of the standard sense of humor. Pretty good for a pubbie, admittedly, but there it is. That means \*\*elucidator \*\*is, in fact, 120% as funny as he thinks he is. ---
**Author:** ![kayT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayt/32/3633_2.png) [@kayT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayT)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2015, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator-you-are-the-ultimate-troll/723162/73 "2015-06-24T01:27:35Z")
> [@Captain\_Amazing](#): > > I don’t think he’s a troll, but he does sometimes, and he’s not the only one, confuse sarcasm for argument. It seems to me that a lot of his posts tend to be dismissive and disrespectful to the people he disagrees with. Dismissive and disrespectful are what I come here for. I’ve been trying not to end that sentence with a preposition but have failed. ---
**Author:** ![xenophon41](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xenophon41/32/253_2.png) [@xenophon41](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xenophon41)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2015, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator-you-are-the-ultimate-troll/723162/74 "2015-06-24T02:03:33Z")
> [@kayT](#): > > Dismissive and disrespectful are what I come here for. > > I’ve been trying not to end that sentence with a preposition but have failed. “‘Dismissive’ and ‘disrespectful’ are the qualities for which I’ve come.” Little girl goes into a candy shop on the boardwalk with the colorful bucket she’s been using on the beach. The clerk, a very proper older lady, walks up to her and says “Oh, what a pretty pail you have, dear. But why do you have it in the store?” “I’ve brought it to put candy in,” says the adorable little tot. The clerk smiles slightly, sniffs audibly and tells her “My dear, that pail is much too dirty to be holding food, and furthermore, you must never end a sentence with a preposition!” The girl stares down at her container for a few seconds, looks up brightly at the helpful clerk and says “Then give me a nice clean bag to put candy in, you nosy old coot!” ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2015, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator-you-are-the-ultimate-troll/723162/75 "2015-06-24T02:33:50Z")
Harvard freshman, just up from Brooklyn public schools, warm mid-September day: “Hey. buddy, where’s the library at?” August Harvard Professor: “Young man, here at Hahhhhhhh-vahhhhd, we NEVER end a sentence with a preposition.” Freshman: “Okay. Where’s the library at, cocksucker?” ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2015, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator-you-are-the-ultimate-troll/723162/76 "2015-06-24T03:13:08Z")
**’luci** is pretty much my favorite poster. Certainly in the top ten. I just wish he could persuade **Weird With Words** to come back. That young man showed PROMISE. ---
**Author:** ![Aquadementia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aquadementia/32/555_2.png) [@Aquadementia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aquadementia)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2015, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator-you-are-the-ultimate-troll/723162/77 "2015-06-24T03:35:08Z")
elucidator is the Ultimate Droll? I should read more of his posts. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2015, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator-you-are-the-ultimate-troll/723162/78 "2015-06-24T04:56:17Z")
> [@kayT](#): > > Dismissive and disrespectful are what I come here for. > > I’ve been trying not to end that sentence with a preposition but have failed. Sometimes that’s a plus. There are rules you sometimes have to go without. Sure, conformity can help, but sometimes you’re better served with the opposite. Indeed, sometimes you have to make a thoughtful effort to move on towards outside. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2015, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator-you-are-the-ultimate-troll/723162/79 "2015-06-24T05:24:34Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > **'luci** is pretty much my favorite poster. Certainly in the top ten. > > I just wish he could persuade **Weird With Words** to come back. That young man showed PROMISE. So, I should offer my wisdom and guidance? This works for you, does it? ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2015, 7:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator-you-are-the-ultimate-troll/723162/80 "2015-06-24T07:07:02Z")
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