# elucidator **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 28, 2005, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator/328230 "2005-10-28T00:41:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2005, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator/328230/21 "2005-10-28T03:21:31Z")
If his post had actually derailed the thread this pitting might have been justified. When I looked over the thread I saw his post, and countered with a small post of my own then immediately got back to the topic at hand. I think that considering everyone else moved on we can safely say his ability to derail threads is severely lacking. ---
**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2005, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator/328230/22 "2005-10-28T03:22:46Z")
> [@Zoe](#): > > _Some_ – though not all – Republicans are beginning to show signs of strain and tension. (Must be the October Dow-Jones jitters or maybe something’s up. Maybe I should catch up on the news tomorrow…). I don’t know why either. I think theres sort of a meme that the Republicans suck and Bush is failing completely that has come to dominant a lot of the message board circuit but from the way I see things we have several scandals that are really non-issues in the grand scheme of things and a situation in Iraq that I’m pretty pleased with. ---
**Author:** ![lonesome\_loser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c68b51/32.png) [@lonesome\_loser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lonesome_loser)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2005, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator/328230/23 "2005-10-28T03:26:36Z")
Quaint?? Been a long time since I’ve been called quaint. Hell…I ain’t never been called quaint. 🙂 Thanks for the welcome. ---
**Author:** ![Good\_Egg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/96bed5/32.png) [@Good\_Egg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Good_Egg)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2005, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator/328230/24 "2005-10-28T03:31:29Z")
elucidator is really pulling a huge prank on us all. He is quite the conservative and has just been waiting all this time to lay the punch line on y’all. And now I’ve gone and ruined it. heh. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2005, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator/328230/25 "2005-10-28T03:49:10Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > However, I think the OP in that thread threw in a question implying that invading Iraq was justified since the alternative was “simply keeping sanctions in place” with the corruption of the UN. I certainly threw in a question…but you’ll notice I didn’t answer it. How is that implying anything? Since you asked though I DIDN’T think that it was justification for the Iraqi invasion. Why everyone thinks that because I ask a question I’m implying an answer I don’t know…maybe it was poor wording on my part. > [@GIGObuster](#): > > Having said that, this corruption paled in comparison to the one that came after the war and the occupation. I am still waiting for that investigation. Considering how long THIS investigation took (and its still ongoing I believe) I wouldn’t hold my breath were I you. -XT ---
**Author:** ![John\_Carter\_of\_Mars](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/2bfe46/32.png) [@John\_Carter\_of\_Mars](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Carter_of_Mars)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2005, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator/328230/26 "2005-10-28T03:50:20Z")
> [@Good Egg](#): > > elucidator is really pulling a huge prank on us all. He is quite the conservative and has just been waiting all this time to lay the punch line on y’all. And now I’ve gone and ruined it. heh. Whatcha’ got in the Nog tonight, **Good Egg**? Must be some good stuff. Care to share? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Good\_Egg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/96bed5/32.png) [@Good\_Egg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Good_Egg)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2005, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator/328230/27 "2005-10-28T03:55:01Z")
Nog? Nog?? I hate nog. Its obviously time for apple cider, being late october and all. Besdies, I’m sittin here drinking banana daquiris with Kirk Cameron. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Fun\_Ball](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_fun_ball/32/17664_2.png) [@Happy\_Fun\_Ball](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Fun_Ball)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2005, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator/328230/28 "2005-10-28T04:19:51Z")
Bah!!! **elucidator** is one of the reasons I pay the membership fee. Funniest person on the board. **elucidator** is the _only_ poster on this board that I have searched to find the latest contributions. Shitting on GD threads my ass. Now all we need is a sarcastic conservative poster… Too bad conservatives don’t know how to be funny. runs for cover ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2005, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator/328230/29 "2005-10-28T04:32:06Z")
> [@Eyer8](#): > > Now all we need is a sarcastic conservative poster… Too bad conservatives don’t know how to be funny. Oh, they do – only, not intentionally. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2005, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator/328230/30 "2005-10-28T04:34:26Z")
> [@Eyer8](#): > > Shitting on GD threads my ass. Can you describe exatly what his contribution to the thread was? Sure looked like nothing more than a pile of doo-doo to me. I like debating with **'luc** … that is, when he’s not channeling Elsworth Toohey. Unforturnately, that’s only about 10% of the time. For someone who despised Ayn Rand as much as he claims, he’s got one of her main characters down to a T. I can’t be the only one who’s noticed that…? ---
**Author:** ![Scott\_Plaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Scott\_Plaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scott_Plaid)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2005, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator/328230/31 "2005-10-28T04:42:45Z")
> [@John Mace](#): > > Can you describe exatly what his contribution to the thread was? Sure looked like nothing more than a pile of doo-doo to me. Has post #6 suddenly turned invisible, since I last saw it? ---
**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2005, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator/328230/32 "2005-10-28T05:19:44Z")
> [@Eyer8](#): > > Bah!!! **elucidator** is one of the reasons I pay the membership fee. Funniest person on the board. **elucidator** is the _only_ poster on this board that I have searched to find the latest contributions. Shitting on GD threads my ass. > > Now all we need is a sarcastic conservative poster… Too bad conservatives don’t know how to be funny. > > runs for cover I’m considered pretty funny in real life and I’m conservative. I even enjoy political satire that makes FUN of my side, back in the glory days of SNL I think there were some really funny parodies of Reagan. I also think there’s been a lot of funny stuff done satyrizing Bush, a huge percentage of it has been inane and stupid though (but I hold around 75% of “comedy” to be pretty stupid.) However it’s a lot harder to joke around on political issues when 75% of the forum (and I’m being generous because I’m betting it’s more like 90%) is liberal and there is an extremely shrill and vocal core of liberal posters that would dogpile any attempt at humor. I feel like quite the “visiting team” on this message board, reminds me of going to a college football game as a visitor. You’re surrounded by people screaming and insulting you, to keep it sane you have to pick your battles carefully and not try to draw too much attention to yourself. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2005, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator/328230/33 "2005-10-28T05:25:09Z")
By the way, kudos **lonesome loser**! You’ve got a good deal of intellectual integrity there. Welcome to the Dope, I hope you decide to stick around. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2005, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator/328230/34 "2005-10-28T05:25:18Z")
> [@Martin Hyde](#): > > I feel like quite the “visiting team” on this message board, reminds me of going to a college football game as a visitor. You’re surrounded by people screaming and insulting you, to keep it sane you have to pick your battles carefully and not try to draw too much attention to yourself. [Paraphrasing Homer Simpson] “Ahh, conservatives. The Washington Generals of the SDMB.” [/PHS] ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2005, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator/328230/35 "2005-10-28T05:28:36Z")
> [@](#): > > Look in the fucking mirror, you are the biggest hack we have on this board now that Reeder is banned. Hey, what am I, a fucking moderate? **’lucy** doesn’t even go to meetings any more. He says the women’s legs are too hairy and he doesn’t like the granola. The OP should lighten up. There are plenty of us who are more knee jerk and polemic than **'lucy** but most of us don’t have the literary grace and wit that he’s got. Fuck Bush, by the way. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2005, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator/328230/36 "2005-10-28T05:39:23Z")
Re the post that inspired this one: I’ve spent an inordinate amount of time sparring with **xtisme** and I don’t believe it’s his style to start a thread in order to divert attention away from some other current news topic. I think he was genuinely interested in the topic. I think he probably also relished the opportunity to stick the needle to UN supporters (read: liberals) on the board, but that he still actually desired the discussion for its own sake, not as a tactic. It follows then, that I think **'lucy** was probably a little hasty and unfair in ascribing nefarious motives to the OP of that thread. Fox News on the other hand… ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2005, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator/328230/37 "2005-10-28T05:44:24Z")
> [@Diogenes the Cynic](#): > > Fox News on the other hand… What would you do w/o FoxNews to piss all over at times like this? I mean, you’d actually have to address the fact that it’s been reported by all the mainstream news outlets, including PBS’s New Hour. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2005, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator/328230/38 "2005-10-28T05:50:48Z")
> [@John Mace](#): > > For someone who despised Ayn Rand as much as he claims, he’s got one of her main characters down to a T. I can’t be the only one who’s noticed that…? I actually made the same comparison in a thread long ago. In fact, whenever I read his posts I PICTURE ole Toohey in his smoking jacket and silk P.Js. 😛 > [@Diogenes the Cynic](#): > > Re the post that inspired this one: I’ve spent an inordinate amount of time sparring with xtisme and I don’t believe it’s his style to start a thread in order to divert attention away from some other current news topic. I think he was genuinely interested in the topic. I think he probably also relished the opportunity to stick the needle to UN supporters (read: liberals) on the board, but that he still actually desired the discussion for its own sake, not as a tactic. I appreciate that DtC. -XT ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2005, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator/328230/39 "2005-10-28T06:00:29Z")
> [@John Mace](#): > > What would you do w/o FoxNews to piss all over at times like this? I mean, you’d actually have to address the fact that it’s been reported by all the mainstream news outlets, including PBS’s New Hour. It was a joke, dude, calm down. I was just too lazy too use a winky. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2005, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator/328230/40 "2005-10-28T06:04:37Z")
> [@Diogenes the Cynic](#): > > It was a joke, dude, calm down. I was just too lazy too use a winky. Yeah, you never rant about Fox. What was I thinking? 🙂 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator/328230.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator/328230.md?page=3)