# elucidator

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator/328230>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 28, 2005, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator/328230 "2005-10-28T00:41:29Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 3

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**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2005, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator/328230/41 "2005-10-28T06:11:17Z")

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> [@Diogenes the Cynic](#):
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> Hey, what am I, a fucking moderate?

Sadly, on the SDMB, yes you’d be a moderate. And that’s taking into account you’re left of bat-shit crazy. But we love ya. 😉

> [@Diogenes the Cynic](#):
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> **’lucy** doesn’t even go to meetings any more. He says the women’s legs are too hairy and he doesn’t like the granola.

I swear on my mom’s grave that before I read this post I was going to offer the theory that you and **'luci** were, in fact, conservatives. You two go just far enough to remind the majority of what we’re up against. (Rallying the base, and all that). I was thinking of including **rjung** and **Elvis** in the conspiracy, but the fact they skip their medications wouldn’t be fair. 😛

> [@Diogenes the Cynic](#):
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> Fuck Bush, by the way.

Personally, I prefer when a woman shaves. But to each his own. Technically, I have to agree with the concept, though.

Oh, and I’m highly offended that with all you people throwing out the “Hack” label and not mentioning me once. What the fuck is all my work for around here? :smack:

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2005, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator/328230/42 "2005-10-28T06:34:52Z")

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> [@duffer](#):
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> Oh, and I’m highly offended that with all you people throwing out the “Hack” label and not mentioning me once. What the fuck is all my work for around here? :smack:

Sorry, but you’re just a drone. You need to try harder. 😃

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2005, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator/328230/43 "2005-10-28T06:37:23Z")

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> [@lonesome loser](#):
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> My apologies.
> 
> I see I need to learn more about the interactions on this board.
> 
> Forgive me.

No problem, **lonesome loser**. Thanks for the apology.

And welcome to the boards. Like some of the other posters have said, we need more people with your intellectual honesty and integrity around here.

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**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2005, 6:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator/328230/44 "2005-10-28T06:40:24Z")

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> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#):
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> Sorry, but you’re just a drone. You need to try harder. 😃

The smilie belies the insult. But I take it with as much seriousness as you meant it (I hope) I shall increase the effort. I will be legend. Legend I say! Fear the legend! It shall be unlea…ah, who the hell am I kidding?

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**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2005, 6:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator/328230/45 "2005-10-28T06:59:54Z")

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> [@Zoe](#):
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> _Some_ – though not all – Republicans are beginning to show signs of strain and tension.

Hey, if you had to spend your time alternating between defending GWB’s world-class ineptitude and the unabashed corruption of the modern Republican Party, you’re bound to go crack sooner or later…

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**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2005, 7:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator/328230/46 "2005-10-28T07:35:12Z")

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Yeah, I agree with…holy shit! there’s another piece of the sky falling outside!

Good Og, are you really hurting that bad in life? I can send a check if life is so bad. If needed, I think I can swing a one-way to Liberia. Spoiled shit.

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2005, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator/328230/47 "2005-10-28T11:53:39Z")

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> [@Diogenes the Cynic](#):
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> Re the post that inspired this one: I’ve spent an inordinate amount of time sparring with **xtisme** and I don’t believe it’s his style to start a thread in order to divert attention away from some other current news topic. I think he was genuinely interested in the topic. I think he probably also relished the opportunity to stick the needle to UN supporters (read: liberals) on the board, but that he still actually desired the discussion for its own sake, not as a tactic. It follows then, that I think **'lucy** was probably a little hasty and unfair in ascribing nefarious motives to the OP of that thread.
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> Fox News on the other hand…

I used to think like you. Now I don’t.

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**Author:** ![LonesomePolecat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a88e57/32.png) [@LonesomePolecat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LonesomePolecat)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2005, 12:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator/328230/48 "2005-10-28T12:01:17Z")

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> [@Neurotik](#):
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> I disagree. **lucy** sometimes has valid, thoughtful points and when he doesn’t, at least he’s witty. Unlike, say, **Elvis**.

Elucidator’s loutish sarcasm in not even remotely witty.

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**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2005, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator/328230/49 "2005-10-28T15:27:15Z")

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Color me unimpressed by the OP.

Don’t like what **'luc** has to say 'cause it gets under your skin and/or mostly because you’re unable to refute him when he actually digs in beyond his unnassailable sarcarsm and brings out the factual hammer? Tough tit. I’d say he’s doing his job admirably – you know, fighting the Cognitive Dissonance Pandemic that currently assails your nation.

Hell, he is – thankfully, along with many other Americans here – one of the reasons I still hold out hope for your nation. That it hasn’t gone bat-shit insane a la **duffer, Shodan, Starving** , et al. Unfortunately, IRL, there simply weren’t enough **'luc’s** around to put a stop to the downward spiral your nation is embarked in. But again, thanks Og for him and people like him. For without them, there is no hope.

As for **xt** and his OP (which, BTW, ain’t much other that a C&P hack job with little addtional effort put forth), yeah, sure, **'luc’s** snide remark may have been initially unwarranted, but I think he hits the nail on the head in his following and equally sarcastic and succint [post](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=6732141&postcount=5).

Just another convenient distraction at a time of great need – the whole Gallaway sham didn’t appear to be getting much traction so greater WMDistraction were/are obviosly needed.

To borrow from Pittee himself: Oh, look, Shiny!

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2005, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator/328230/50 "2005-10-28T15:33:25Z")

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> [@Diogenes the Cynic](#):
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> The OP should lighten up. There are plenty of us who are more knee jerk and polemic than **'lucy** but most of us don’t have the literary grace and wit that he’s got.
> 
> Fuck Bush, by the way.

This cracked me up.

Yeah, **luc** doesn’t even enter the top ten partisan hacks around here, far as I’m concerned (maybe I have lower standards, **duff** , but you definitely make it into the top three). He’s funny, he’s self-deprecating, and he’s insightful. I enjoy his posts.

Daniel

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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2005, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator/328230/51 "2005-10-28T16:12:48Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> In conclusion, the OP of this thread is a big girl’s blouse.

I disagree. \*_treis_ has never been anywhere near my boobies.

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**Author:** ![vibrotronica](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/a9a28c/32.png) [@vibrotronica](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vibrotronica)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2005, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator/328230/52 "2005-10-28T16:25:53Z")

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> [@Martin Hyde](#):
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> However it’s a lot harder to joke around on political issues when 75% of the forum (and I’m being generous because I’m betting it’s more like 90%) is liberal and there is an extremely shrill and vocal core of liberal posters that would dogpile any attempt at humor.

Somebody save the poor neo-cons from the big bad liberals! They say hurtful things. If only conservatives had some kind of political power or a media outlet so they could fight back against the scary hairy people.

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**Author:** ![UncleBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/977dab/32.png) [@UncleBeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBeer)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2005, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator/328230/53 "2005-10-28T16:27:26Z")

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> [@LHoD](#):
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> He’s funny, he’s self-deprecating, and he’s insightful. I enjoy his posts.

Me, too. But they’re too often inappropriately placed. Guy oughtta stick more to writing loopy poetry about penguins and pilgrims in Cafe Society.

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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2005, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator/328230/54 "2005-10-28T16:44:22Z")

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> [@vibrotronica](#):
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> Somebody save the poor neo-cons from the big bad liberals! They say hurtful things. If only conservatives had some kind of political power or a media outlet so they could fight back against the scary hairy people.

[They just can’t get a break.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=341459)

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2005, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator/328230/55 "2005-10-28T16:48:00Z")

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I find your OP to not meet the current criteria of “Fair and Balanced”.

Please include a complaint about a similar poster on the other side of the political spectrum or we shall, perforce, be forced to mock you.

-Joe

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**Author:** ![Alonzo\_John\_Blitz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@Alonzo\_John\_Blitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alonzo_John_Blitz)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2005, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator/328230/56 "2005-10-28T18:44:25Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Originally Posted by **Martin Hyde**
> 
> I’m considered pretty funny in real life and I’m conservative. I even enjoy political satire that makes FUN of my side, back in the glory days of SNL I think there were some really funny parodies of Reagan. I also think there’s been a lot of funny stuff done **satyrizing** Bush, a huge percentage of it has been inane and stupid though (but I hold around 75% of “comedy” to be pretty stupid.)
> 
> Bolding mine.

_Satyr-izing_?! Someone, please rip that picture outta my photo album!

I agree on the ratio of stupid to funny, though.

(Added quote tags for reading clarity–Veb)

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**Author:** ![zoo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/71c47a/32.png) [@zoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoo)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2005, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator/328230/57 "2005-10-29T00:27:47Z")

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> [@Eyer8](#):
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> Bah!!! **elucidator** is one of the reasons I pay the membership fee. Funniest person on the board. **elucidator** is the _only_ poster on this board that I have searched to find the latest contributions. Shitting on GD threads my ass

I agree 100% with this post. **elucidator** is the only poster I have searched for, except when I see the BANNED under a user name.

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**Author:** ![rayh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e79b87/32.png) [@rayh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rayh)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2005, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator/328230/58 "2005-10-29T01:42:33Z")

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> [@LonesomePolecat](#):
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> Elucidator’s loutish sarcasm in not even remotely witty.

Speaking of [loutish behaviour.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=6439693&postcount=20)

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**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2005, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator/328230/59 "2005-10-29T01:50:06Z")

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I have a confession to make. Here at SDMB, I really just can’t bring myself to give a good damn whether someone is Republican or Democrat, Conservative or Liberal.

If they are cold or indifferent, that’s another matter. And I’ve seen that on both sides.

**elucidator** is comic relief with sometimes uncanny perceptiveness.

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2005, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elucidator/328230/60 "2005-10-29T02:13:20Z")

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**Elucidator** is like **duffer** backwards, but funny. And intelligent.

I’m gonna make him the next Missus Ukulele.

\<\<smoochies\>\>

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