# ElvisL1ves; Liar, or stupid?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elvisl1ves-liar-or-stupid/459569>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 11, 2008, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elvisl1ves-liar-or-stupid/459569 "2008-08-11T03:52:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2008, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elvisl1ves-liar-or-stupid/459569/1 "2008-08-11T03:52:17Z")

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In another thread, Elvis pulls yet more bullshit out of his hat:

[QUOTE=ElvisL1ves]  
Considering that the 9/11 perps themselves were safely based in Montreal, why would they want to attack it?  
[/QUOTE]

How many times has this idiocy been debunked? A hundred? A thousand? A hundred thousand?

The worst terrorist attack in the history of his own country, and he knows nothing about it, happily repeating Republican urban myths about 9/11. Jesus Christ. Are you actually retarded, Elvis, or do you just play a retarded character on the SDMB?

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**Author:** ![Bobotheoptimist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/919ad9/32.png) [@Bobotheoptimist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bobotheoptimist)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2008, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elvisl1ves-liar-or-stupid/459569/2 "2008-08-11T03:57:17Z")

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Can’t it be both?

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2008, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elvisl1ves-liar-or-stupid/459569/3 "2008-08-11T04:04:27Z")

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[QUOTE=RickJay]  
… happily repeating Republican urban myths about 9/11.  
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Huh?

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**Author:** ![HongKongFooey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c4cdca/32.png) [@HongKongFooey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HongKongFooey)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2008, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elvisl1ves-liar-or-stupid/459569/4 "2008-08-11T04:12:30Z")

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Immediately following the attacks there was a lot of media speculation/assumption that the attackers crossed our border; there wasn’t nearly as much coverage in the American media when Frank McKenna and others debunked these rumours. It’s frustrating but that’s the way it is. Then you get these goofballs in Ontario who sound about as scary as my Grandmother and the media and RCMP start trying to ratchet up the scare level again.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2008, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elvisl1ves-liar-or-stupid/459569/5 "2008-08-11T04:14:24Z")

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[Canada Fights Myth It Was 9/11 Conduit](http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A38816-2005Apr8.html)

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2008, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elvisl1ves-liar-or-stupid/459569/6 "2008-08-11T04:27:43Z")

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[QUOTE=Bobotheoptimist]  
Can’t it be both?  
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That’s my vote.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2008, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elvisl1ves-liar-or-stupid/459569/7 "2008-08-11T04:28:09Z")

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Can we get a link to the thread in question? I’d like to go there and tell Elvis about how the attack (staged by people who had not come through Canada), virtually all air travel in North America stopped, trapping some 6500 travellers, many of them American, in Gander, Newfoundland. The locals opened their homes to the travellers.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2008, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elvisl1ves-liar-or-stupid/459569/8 "2008-08-11T04:31:56Z")

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Is it possible it was a failed joke?

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**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2008, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elvisl1ves-liar-or-stupid/459569/9 "2008-08-11T04:40:12Z")

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[QUOTE=Larry Borgia]  
Is it possible it was a failed joke?  
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Doesn’t seem very likely. From the thread [How would you react to a 9/11 type attack on Montreal?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=478911) in IMHO:

[QUOTE=ElvisL1ves]  
Considering that the 9/11 perps themselves were safely \*based \*in Montreal, why would they \*want \*to attack it?  
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**Author:** ![Mosier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@Mosier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mosier)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2008, 8:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elvisl1ves-liar-or-stupid/459569/10 "2008-08-11T08:58:18Z")

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Could have been a joke. It’s actually kind of funny, if it is.

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**Author:** ![BJMoose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5fc32e/32.png) [@BJMoose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BJMoose)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2008, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elvisl1ves-liar-or-stupid/459569/11 "2008-08-11T17:25:35Z")

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[QUOTE=Larry Borgia]  
Is it possible it was a failed joke?  
[/QUOTE]

Well, I suppose **ElvisL1ves** could be a failed joke. . . .

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2008, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elvisl1ves-liar-or-stupid/459569/12 "2008-08-11T17:38:45Z")

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Birth control is no joke.

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**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2008, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elvisl1ves-liar-or-stupid/459569/13 "2008-08-11T17:40:27Z")

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[QUOTE=Vinyl Turnip]  
Birth control is no joke.  
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It is if you blow up a condom and fit it around your head, a la Howie Mandel.

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**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2008, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elvisl1ves-liar-or-stupid/459569/14 "2008-08-11T17:56:03Z")

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[QUOTE=woodstockbirdybird]  
It is if you blow up a condom and fit it around your head, a la Howie Mandel.  
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Meh. It looks funnier when he does it with a surgical glove.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2008, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elvisl1ves-liar-or-stupid/459569/15 "2008-08-11T18:01:34Z")

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Depends on how fondly you remember surgical gloves.

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2008, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elvisl1ves-liar-or-stupid/459569/16 "2008-08-11T18:21:17Z")

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[QUOTE=elucidator]  
Depends on how fondly you remember surgical gloves.  
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Or how fondly you remember condoms.

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**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2008, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elvisl1ves-liar-or-stupid/459569/17 "2008-08-11T18:46:37Z")

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[QUOTE=Hamlet]  
Or how fondly you remember condoms.  
[/QUOTE]  
Or how fondly you remember Howie Mandel with hair.

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**Author:** ![bluecanary](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bluecanary/32/3614_2.png) [@bluecanary](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bluecanary)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2008, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elvisl1ves-liar-or-stupid/459569/18 "2008-08-11T19:41:56Z")

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Looks like a failed joke to me, particularly since **Elvisl1ves** is far from being a Freeper-type!

He’s probably posted it and gone offline and now has no idea what trouble it has caused 😉

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**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2008, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elvisl1ves-liar-or-stupid/459569/19 "2008-08-11T20:16:10Z")

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Him doing it with a condom and without hair would be a lot funnier, actually. More of a squeaking sound, without the hair to help him take it off…

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**Author:** ![BJMoose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5fc32e/32.png) [@BJMoose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BJMoose)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2008, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elvisl1ves-liar-or-stupid/459569/20 "2008-08-12T22:18:53Z")

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[QUOTE=elucidator]  
Depends on how fondly you remember surgical gloves.  
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Spoken like one who has reached the annual-prostate-exam age. . . .

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