# ElvisL1ves: Lying Weasel **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 3, 2003, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elvisl1ves-lying-weasel/186060 "2003-07-03T16:30:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2003, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elvisl1ves-lying-weasel/186060/81 "2003-07-09T17:24:36Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by ElvisL1ves \* > \*\* > **Scylla** , you still refuse to read your own cite. I already led you by the hand through the key points, which are as I stated. The point-by-point “rebuttal” you demand was in fact a prebuttal, which you also have not read. Either you do know better, or you should but refuse to - that makes you a liar and a slanderer. \*\* Actually I debunked your attempt at obfuscation and asked you a simple question as a test that would prove your position. After your first evasian, I asked it again. You have still not addressed my question. You, I, and everybody else know exactly why you have not. it’s because nowhere does Age say what you say he says. it’s a false attribution. A lie because it is a deliberate one. > [@](#): > > Now, where’s any of all the endless examples of my mendacity you claim? You say you got 'em, but they ain’t there, pardner, are they? Ergo, you are a liar and a slanderer on that count as well. \*\* Elvis. Cites of you lying and making false attributions are easy. All I have to do is type your name into the search engine and I get all I want. I don’t even have to do that. You’re giving me freebies, right here. You’ve called me a narcissist. You don’t know that to be true. By your very own definition, quoted by Age in his last post, **you are lying by your own criteria** I’m not lying and slandering, buddy. My words here are true. You make stuff up and attribute it to other people all the time. > [@](#): > > But you can keep trying to loudly assert the legitimacy of the Nigerien uranium bill of sale, er, make that the **Age** cite even he’s backing away from, if you really enjoy looking this foolish. But, as you said back on Page 1, I’m not worth your time and trouble, am I? No. You’re really not. You and elucidator convinced me to stay. > [@](#): > > However, in your favor, it has been highly amusing being lectured about appropriate board behavior by someone with as many official warnings as you. I know of no one with your total who has not yet been banned, do you? I don’t know what my total is. It’s curious that you do. What is it? Or is it just another lie, like your previous accusation, and the ones before that, and before that and so on and so on? Back this statement up, Chucklehead. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2003, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elvisl1ves-lying-weasel/186060/82 "2003-07-09T17:31:40Z")
> [@](#): > > Well, folks, this has been highly amusing, but not terribly illuminating of the character of anyone else but you few, and a couple of others who’ve already walked away. Is it a mere coincidence that your detractors in this thread are of weak character, or is that how it always works? ---
**Author:** ![IzzyR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/2acd7d/32.png) [@IzzyR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IzzyR)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2003, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elvisl1ves-lying-weasel/186060/83 "2003-07-09T18:12:39Z")
Speaking of “highly amusing”, I observe that Elvis, that great master debater, has failed to realize that wring’s comments were actually about december, not about him. But there he goes, both guns blazing. Now I find _that_ highly amusing. To each his own. 😃 I also don’t understand the issue of other examples. There have been multiple examples brought up here, and Elvis has failed to address them, most recently brushing them off as not standing up to cursory examination. But FWIW, [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=130241), along with some related links, may be illuminating. > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by wring \* > But, I think there’s a difference still - I do not claim he’s a ‘liar’ (which to me includes a sense of knowingly telling a falsehood’, but that he does dishonest representations of others positions, in that the representations themselves are dishonest, but I do not claim to know that he’s knowingly subverting the text, or just so blinded by his own stance that he cannot see others correctly. I don’t think this stands up either. In that very same post, you referred to it as “deliberate mischaracterizations of other posters statements”. > [@](#): > > pbtththththththththt. Not sure what this means, but I might actually agree with it. ---
**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2003, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elvisl1ves-lying-weasel/186060/84 "2003-07-09T18:15:18Z")
yep, spinster old aunt that all pity, that’s me. But I wonder how it’s possible to ‘butt in’ when we’re all ‘talking’ on a public message board. threads on a public message board aren’t private conversations that one can ‘butt into’. You don’t want to invite comments from passers by, then don’t post. Don’t know what statements about **Elvis** I’ve made that he claims aren’t true. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elvisl1ves-lying-weasel/186060.md?page=4)