# ElvisL1ves, you are a gutless chickenshit **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 26, 2008, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elvisl1ves-you-are-a-gutless-chickenshit/450673 "2008-05-26T19:14:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2008, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elvisl1ves-you-are-a-gutless-chickenshit/450673/1 "2008-05-26T19:14:54Z")
The latest for-instance: the [How dishonest are the Clintons](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=469369) thread. I was the OP in that thread. **Elvis** , in the first post after the OP: > [@](#): > > Do you hold yourself to the same standard of factuality on this subject that you demand of **SA**?:dubious: With no reference to anything specific I’d said. So I fired back: > [@](#): > > If you want to start a debate about me, I believe the appropriate forum is the Pit. Start a thread, link to it here, and I’ll see you there. Cheers. His response: > [@](#): > > No, the place to discuss the validity of your comments here is here. If you’re not willing to support them, that says everything it needs to. Except that **Elvis** hadn’t yet challenged the validity of a single comment I’d made there. There was nothing for me to support, because he’d questioned nothing I’d said - just questioned my factuality in general, on the basis of absolutely nothing in that thread. And being too much of a chickenshit to own up to it when I called him on it. So **Elvis** , since you’re too much of a craven coward to open up a Pit thread to attack me, here’s your Pit thread anyway. There’s nothing in the front of your pants but air. You want to say something about _me_, rather than about the things I’ve said, feel free to say it here. The floor’s yours. ---
**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2008, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elvisl1ves-you-are-a-gutless-chickenshit/450673/2 "2008-05-26T19:32:52Z")
You’re an overly sensitive idiot. He didn’t say anything about YOU, he called your facts–all of them–into question. And your response is to act like a fucking baby, “waaah, waaaah, you insulted meee. Let’s go to the Pit, instead of debating like adults! Put 'em up!” Give it a rest already. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2008, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elvisl1ves-you-are-a-gutless-chickenshit/450673/3 "2008-05-26T19:43:38Z")
[QUOTE=Q.E.D.] You’re an overly sensitive idiot. He didn’t say anything about YOU, he called your facts–all of them–into question. [/quote] Which ones? > [@](#): > > And your response is to act like a fucking baby, “waaah, waaaah, you insulted meee. Let’s go to the Pit, instead of debating like adults! Put 'em up!” Gawd, what a fuckin’ idiot you are. If there’d been something specific to debate, I would have stayed and debated it. Can you show me one single thing he said to me I should have tried to rebut? No, you can’t. Sorry to find out that you’ve got the IQ of goat cheese. I hadn’t realized that before. ---
**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2008, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elvisl1ves-you-are-a-gutless-chickenshit/450673/4 "2008-05-26T20:20:50Z")
[QUOTE=RTFirefly] Which ones? [/QUOTE] I already told you: ALL of them. Do you need to look that word up? Besides, if you wanted clarification on which ones he took issue with, you could have, y’know, asked him. ---
**Author:** ![Don\_t\_fight\_the\_hypothetical](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/59ef9b/32.png) [@Don\_t\_fight\_the\_hypothetical](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_t_fight_the_hypothetical)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2008, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elvisl1ves-you-are-a-gutless-chickenshit/450673/5 "2008-05-26T20:21:38Z")
**Q.E.D.** , since you’ve opened up the hijack: What a dick you’ve become of late. ---
**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2008, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elvisl1ves-you-are-a-gutless-chickenshit/450673/6 "2008-05-26T20:27:23Z")
It’s not a hijack if it’s on topic, moron. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2008, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elvisl1ves-you-are-a-gutless-chickenshit/450673/7 "2008-05-26T20:35:30Z")
Just consider the source(s), friend. Back before the Net, I used to have to go to the zoo and visit the monkey house if I wanted to see hominids shrieking, jumping around, and hurling feces. Now I only have to log on. ---
**Author:** ![Don\_t\_fight\_the\_hypothetical](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/59ef9b/32.png) [@Don\_t\_fight\_the\_hypothetical](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_t_fight_the_hypothetical)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2008, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elvisl1ves-you-are-a-gutless-chickenshit/450673/8 "2008-05-26T20:36:41Z")
> [@](#): > > It’s not a hijack if it’s on topic, moron. I notice you didn’t address my post topic either. I rest my case. ---
**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2008, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elvisl1ves-you-are-a-gutless-chickenshit/450673/9 "2008-05-26T20:49:14Z")
And how am I meant to address your “topic?” Clearly, I disagree with it but any variation of “No, I’m not,” “That’s what you think” or “Oh, yeah? Prove it!” just sounds lame and defensive. _shrug_ You can’t win; I don’t bother trying. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2008, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elvisl1ves-you-are-a-gutless-chickenshit/450673/10 "2008-05-26T21:03:03Z")
[QUOTE=Q.E.D.] I already told you: ALL of them. Do you need to look that word up? Besides, if you wanted clarification on which ones he took issue with, you could have, y’know, asked him. [/QUOTE] Nah, I figure I extended him as much politeness as was appropriate, given his post. Which was too non-specific to even attribute to the OP. I can only assume that **Elvis** was carrying a grudge from other threads into that one. If he’s got a problem with me, but is too inchoate to give specifics, I’m sure there’s a good board for people like him, and you, somewhere. Maybe a good Rush Limbaugh fanboy board or something like that would be the appropriate intellectual level. ---
**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2008, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elvisl1ves-you-are-a-gutless-chickenshit/450673/11 "2008-05-26T21:05:56Z")
I’ll grant you he could have been a tad more specific. But this pit thread? Lame. There’s nothing–absolutely nothing–which couldn’t have been addressed appropriately in the original GD thread. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2008, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elvisl1ves-you-are-a-gutless-chickenshit/450673/12 "2008-05-26T21:16:40Z")
[QUOTE=Q.E.D.] I’ll grant you he could have been a tad more specific. But this pit thread? Lame. There’s nothing–absolutely nothing–which couldn’t have been addressed appropriately in the original GD thread. [/QUOTE] Sorry, already gotten the runaround from Elvis a few times too often already. A guy who slags you for refusing to defend your words in the thread, after he’s already slammed you generally but said nothing specific to respond to, isn’t going to be polite and give a clear explanation of what he means. He’s just there to make trouble. And apparently you’re riding that same wave. I remember I once had a good opinion of you. Such is life. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2008, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elvisl1ves-you-are-a-gutless-chickenshit/450673/13 "2008-05-26T21:24:17Z")
**QED** : Shut up. ---
**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2008, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elvisl1ves-you-are-a-gutless-chickenshit/450673/14 "2008-05-26T21:26:02Z")
I gave you very specific things to respond to, so your “same wave” shit isn’t going to flush. And I did so in exactly the spirit and tone of your OP. Surprisingly, you appear to be offended by that. Huh. ---
**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2008, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elvisl1ves-you-are-a-gutless-chickenshit/450673/15 "2008-05-26T21:27:22Z")
[QUOTE=Liberal] **QED** : Shut up. [/QUOTE] Fuck you. Nobody’s addressing you. Now, go away, sane people are talking. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2008, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elvisl1ves-you-are-a-gutless-chickenshit/450673/16 "2008-05-26T22:59:04Z")
[QUOTE=Q.E.D.] Fuck you. Nobody’s addressing you. Now, go away, sane people are talking. [/QUOTE] Cite? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2008, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elvisl1ves-you-are-a-gutless-chickenshit/450673/17 "2008-05-26T22:59:58Z")
😛 ---
**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2008, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elvisl1ves-you-are-a-gutless-chickenshit/450673/18 "2008-05-27T00:11:57Z")
[QUOTE=Q.E.D.] You’re an overly sensitive idiot. He didn’t say anything about YOU, he called your facts–all of them–into question. And your response is to act like a fucking baby, “waaah, waaaah, you insulted meee. Let’s go to the Pit, instead of debating like adults! Put 'em up!” Give it a rest already. [/QUOTE] Be careful with the ‘waaah’ bit. People here don’t get it. TRUST ME. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2008, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elvisl1ves-you-are-a-gutless-chickenshit/450673/19 "2008-05-27T00:32:52Z")
[QUOTE=Q.E.D.] I gave you very specific things to respond to, so your “same wave” shit isn’t going to flush. And I did so in exactly the spirit and tone of your OP. Surprisingly, you appear to be offended by that. Huh. [/QUOTE] I’m trying to figure out the ‘specific’ part, so work with me here, OK? Was it: > [@](#): > > You’re an overly sensitive idiot. He didn’t say anything about YOU, he called your facts–all of them–into question. And your response is to act like a fucking baby, “waaah, waaaah, you insulted meee. Let’s go to the Pit, instead of debating like adults! Put 'em up!” > > Give it a rest already. or > [@](#): > > I already told you: ALL of them. Do you need to look that word up? Besides, if you wanted clarification on which ones he took issue with, you could have, y’know, asked him. or > [@](#): > > It’s not a hijack if it’s on topic, moron. or > [@](#): > > And how am I meant to address your “topic?” Clearly, I disagree with it but any variation of “No, I’m not,” “That’s what you think” or “Oh, yeah? Prove it!” just sounds lame and defensive. _shrug_ You can’t win; I don’t bother trying. or > [@](#): > > I’ll grant you he could have been a tad more specific. But this pit thread? Lame. There’s nothing–absolutely nothing–which couldn’t have been addressed appropriately in the original GD thread. ? Yep, that’s a big, steaming pile of ‘specifics’ alright! Ain’t seen so large a quantity of ‘specifics’ since the last time I had to walk through a cowpasture. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2008, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elvisl1ves-you-are-a-gutless-chickenshit/450673/20 "2008-05-27T00:56:19Z")
What the hell, I’m bored. Let’s simplify that first post of mine for your benefit, shall we? > [@Me](#): > > You’re an overly sensitive idiot. Seems pretty specific to me. > [@Me](#): > > He didn’t say anything about YOU Also pretty specific. > [@Me](#): > > he called your facts–all of them–into question. Specific again? Check. > [@Me](#): > > And your response is to act like a fucking baby That too. See, there’s a whole bunch of stuff right there in my first post that specifically addresses the OP. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elvisl1ves-you-are-a-gutless-chickenshit/450673.md?page=2)