# EMail from the Religious Right (Homosexuals have "Super" Rights)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/email-from-the-religious-right-homosexuals-have-super-rights/404457>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 17, 2007, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/email-from-the-religious-right-homosexuals-have-super-rights/404457 "2007-05-17T15:33:13Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2007, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/email-from-the-religious-right-homosexuals-have-super-rights/404457/41 "2007-05-17T17:41:05Z")

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[QUOTE=OneCentStamp]  
OK, man-crush now officially snuffed out by the realities of gay romance. Thanks for that bucket of ice water, **tdn**. 😉  
[/QUOTE]

Hey, even if you’d stayed with your hetero crushes, reality will end up intruding anyway.

Do the gay thing, you face homophobia and possibly violence. Do the straight thing, and you face being bored out of your skull in a mall, and having to talk about “where this relationship is going” when the big game is on. Lose/lose.

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**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2007, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/email-from-the-religious-right-homosexuals-have-super-rights/404457/42 "2007-05-17T17:49:00Z")

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[QUOTE=Ca3799]  
. . .In addition to subsidizing those who engage in homosexuality, the right of ordinary citizens to happiness is diminished by homosexuals’ expropriation of beaches, restrooms, and rest areas for their sexual trysts. . . .\*  
[/QUOTE]  
This male clutches his pearls, and says “Oh. My. God.”

- They forgot parks.

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**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2007, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/email-from-the-religious-right-homosexuals-have-super-rights/404457/43 "2007-05-17T17:54:51Z")

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They are just mad that their political party is demonstrably run by faggots.\* 😉  
\*Log Cabin Republicans

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**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2007, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/email-from-the-religious-right-homosexuals-have-super-rights/404457/44 "2007-05-17T17:59:24Z")

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[QUOTE=Ludovic]  
I thought all homosexual rights were Super.  
[/QUOTE]  
Is Super the new Fabulous?

Boy, I would hate to have gone to junior high school with any grouping of Dopers, 'cause when y’all decide to gang up and pick on someone or something, it’s like a pack of Pharisee jackals smelling blood in the water.

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**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2007, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/email-from-the-religious-right-homosexuals-have-super-rights/404457/45 "2007-05-17T18:05:00Z")

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[QUOTE=5-4-Fighting]  
Is Super the new Fabulous?  
[/QUOTE]

It’th Thuper, Thankth for Athking.

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**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2007, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/email-from-the-religious-right-homosexuals-have-super-rights/404457/46 "2007-05-17T18:07:13Z")

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[QUOTE=mswas]  
It’th Thuper, Thankth for Athking.  
[/QUOTE]  
When is “winky-smiley” not really a “winky-smiley”?

[See here.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8576454&postcount=169)

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**Author:** ![Terrifel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@Terrifel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terrifel)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2007, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/email-from-the-religious-right-homosexuals-have-super-rights/404457/47 "2007-05-17T18:15:14Z")

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I wonder if it would be possible to persuade Dr. Cameron to refrain from emphasizing the “hate-crime” argument quite so much? I believe there might actually be a reasonable argument against such legislation, but it’s difficult to tell when the guy arguing the point is a foaming lunatic. He seems to be quite happy to grind on for long stretches without the benefit of any actual content, so eschewing mention of that one point would be a relatively small sacrifice to make. How about it, Doc? Honestly, reason cramps your style anyway. You can easily make up for the lost space by peppering your rant with a few more instances of the words ‘empirical,’ ‘unalienable,’ and ‘associational.’

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**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2007, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/email-from-the-religious-right-homosexuals-have-super-rights/404457/48 "2007-05-17T18:15:33Z")

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Dr. Paul Cameron… Dr. Paul Cameron… Now, where have I heard that name?

Oh, yeah, he’s that [evangelist of homosexuality](http://www.pflagdetroit.org/Holy_War_OnGays.htm) who’s trying to get as many people to go gay as he can:

> [@Dr. Paul Cameron (as originally reported in Rolling Stone magazine)](#):
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> Untrammeled homosexuality can take over and destroy a social system…If you isolate sexuality as something solely for one’s own personal amusement, and all you want is the most satisfying orgasm you can get–and that is what homosexuality seems to be–then homosexuality seems too powerful to resist. The evidence is that men do a better job on men and women on women, if all you are looking for is orgasm…I’m convinced that lesbians are particularly good seducers…People in homosexuality are incredibly evangelical…It’s pure sexuality. It’s almost like pure heroin. It’s such a rush. They are committed in almost a religious way. And they’ll take enormous risks, do anything…Marital sex tends toward the boring end…Generally, it doesn’t deliver the kind of sheer sexual pleasure that homosexual sex does.

My goodness. The “most sayisfying orgasm you can get”–“pure sexuality”–a heroin-like rush that makes “marital sex” seem “boring”?

Damn. Where do I sign up?

Seriously, hasn’t this guy [del]been caught in a public restroom with a few ounces of methamphetamines and some gay hustler he claims to have been doing “research” on or something[/del] come out of the closet yet?

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**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2007, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/email-from-the-religious-right-homosexuals-have-super-rights/404457/49 "2007-05-17T18:21:18Z")

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[QUOTE=5-4-Fighting]  
When is “winky-smiley” not really a “winky-smiley”?

[See here.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8576454&postcount=169)  
[/QUOTE]

When you’re being shoved into the broom closet.

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2007, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/email-from-the-religious-right-homosexuals-have-super-rights/404457/50 "2007-05-17T18:24:00Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Originally Posted by Dr. Paul Cameron (as originally reported in Rolling Stone magazine)  
> Untrammeled homosexuality can take over and destroy a social system…If you isolate sexuality as something solely for one’s own personal amusement, and all you want is the most satisfying orgasm you can get–and that is what homosexuality seems to be–then homosexuality seems too powerful to resist. The evidence is that men do a better job on men and women on women, if all you are looking for is orgasm… **I’m convinced that lesbians are particularly good seducers** …People in homosexuality are incredibly evangelical…It’s pure sexuality. It’s almost like pure heroin. It’s such a rush. They are committed in almost a religious way. And they’ll take enormous risks, do anything…Marital sex tends toward the boring end…Generally, it doesn’t deliver the kind of sheer sexual pleasure that homosexual sex does.

I e-mailed this to my sister the lesbian. She called me on my cell phone and screamed “How the fuck would HE know?”

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2007, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/email-from-the-religious-right-homosexuals-have-super-rights/404457/51 "2007-05-17T18:32:42Z")

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[QUOTE=Annie-Xmas]  
“How the fuck would HE know?”  
[/QUOTE]

Because of all the lesbians who have seduced him. Duh.

Either that, or he’s totally turned on by lesbians, and figures that if any came on to him, he’d be so there.

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**Author:** ![miss\_elizabeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@miss\_elizabeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/miss_elizabeth)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2007, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/email-from-the-religious-right-homosexuals-have-super-rights/404457/52 "2007-05-17T18:41:46Z")

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[QUOTE=Baldwin]  
Why is it the really stupid arguments that get recycled?  
[/QUOTE]

Because there aren’t any arguments against equal rights that aren’t really stupid.

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**Author:** ![Ceejaytee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ceejaytee/32/2956_2.png) [@Ceejaytee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ceejaytee)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2007, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/email-from-the-religious-right-homosexuals-have-super-rights/404457/53 "2007-05-17T19:10:41Z")

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I apologize. I haven’t read the thread yet. But the title made me laugh out loud: Homosexuals have “Super” Rights? Already I can see where they’re going–it astonishes me how some people can twist attempts by gay people to be legally treated the same as straight people as giving them “Super” rights. It’s also heartbreakingly sad; friends of my husband who are extremely intelligent people (I thought) now speak of the “gay agenda.” I never would have expected that from them.

But I’m currently enjoying the mental vision of my friend Donald in red tights and a cape, exercising his “super rights” to spend time with his boyfriend and his boyfriend’s son as a family.

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**Author:** ![DoctorJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctorj/32/2904_2.png) [@DoctorJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DoctorJ)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2007, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/email-from-the-religious-right-homosexuals-have-super-rights/404457/54 "2007-05-17T19:14:57Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Wow. The only fact I could find in there is that gay people are having gay sex.

Actually, I’d be willing to bet that the vast majority of gay people are not having gay sex right this second.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2007, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/email-from-the-religious-right-homosexuals-have-super-rights/404457/55 "2007-05-17T19:21:22Z")

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[QUOTE=Annie-Xmas]

> [@](#):
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> Originally Posted by Dr. Paul Cameron (as originally reported in Rolling Stone magazine)If… all you want is the most satisfying orgasm you can get–and that is what homosexuality seems to be–then homosexuality seems too powerful to resist. The evidence is that men do a better job on men and women on women, if all you are looking for is orgasm… **I’m convinced that lesbians are particularly good seducers** … Marital sex tends toward the boring end…Generally, it doesn’t deliver the kind of sheer sexual pleasure that homosexual sex does.
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> I e-mailed this to my sister the lesbian. She called me on my cell phone and screamed “How the fuck would HE know?”

You’re sure that wasn’t “How the fuck _ **DID** _ HE know?”

The answer, obviously, is that he ponders homosexual sex. Frequently. Intently. Thoroughly. To the point of hyperventalation.

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2007, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/email-from-the-religious-right-homosexuals-have-super-rights/404457/56 "2007-05-17T19:37:01Z")

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[QUOTE=Ceejaytee]  
But I’m currently enjoying the mental vision of my friend Donald in red tights and a cape, exercising his “super rights” to spend time with his boyfriend and his boyfriend’s son as a family.  
[/QUOTE]

I wonder if the boyfriend – not to mention the son – have the same mental vision about Donald.

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**Author:** ![norinew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/eb9ed0/32.png) [@norinew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/norinew)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2007, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/email-from-the-religious-right-homosexuals-have-super-rights/404457/57 "2007-05-17T20:38:26Z")

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Actually, the drek cited in the OP is making _me_ want Super Rights. Having been straight all my life, I’ve never gotten anything but normal, everyday rights. So, who here wants to inject me with gay, so I too can have Super Rights? Not to mention enough spare money to buy condominiums or townhouses on a whim. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![stolichnaya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bcef8e/32.png) [@stolichnaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stolichnaya)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2007, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/email-from-the-religious-right-homosexuals-have-super-rights/404457/58 "2007-05-17T20:44:06Z")

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Remember folks, with “Super” rights comes “Super” responsibility.

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**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2007, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/email-from-the-religious-right-homosexuals-have-super-rights/404457/59 "2007-05-17T20:45:07Z")

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[QUOTE=tdn]  
… then we can really stick it to the man by dying young.  
[/QUOTE]

Dude. If you’re _dying_ while sticking it to the man, then you’re _doing it wrong_.

Just sayin’.

[QUOTE=norinew]  
So, who here wants to inject me with gay…  
[/QUOTE]

:eek: Dang, this thread is seein’ more action than one of those bathrooms or rest stops.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2007, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/email-from-the-religious-right-homosexuals-have-super-rights/404457/60 "2007-05-17T20:48:44Z")

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[QUOTE=norinew]  
Actually, the drek cited in the OP is making _me_ want Super Rights. Having been straight all my life, I’ve never gotten anything but normal, everyday rights. So, who here wants to inject me with gay, so I too can have Super Rights? Not to mention enough spare money to buy condominiums or townhouses on a whim. :rolleyes:  
[/QUOTE]

I’m not sure how to go about injecting a woman with gay. I know how to inject a _man_ with gay, but if I tried the same thing with a woman, somehow it just doesn’t seem very gay to me.

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