# EMail from the Religious Right (Homosexuals have "Super" Rights) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 17, 2007, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/email-from-the-religious-right-homosexuals-have-super-rights/404457 "2007-05-17T15:33:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2007, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/email-from-the-religious-right-homosexuals-have-super-rights/404457/81 "2007-05-18T06:03:46Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally Posted by Dr. Paul Cameron (as originally reported in Rolling Stone magazine) > > Untrammeled homosexuality can take over and destroy a social system…If you isolate sexuality as something solely for one’s own personal amusement, and all you want is the most satisfying orgasm you can get–and that is what homosexuality seems to be–then homosexuality seems too powerful to resist. The evidence is that men do a better job on men and women on women, if all you are looking for is orgasm…I’m convinced that lesbians are particularly good seducers…People in homosexuality are incredibly evangelical…It’s pure sexuality. It’s almost like pure heroin. It’s such a rush. They are committed in almost a religious way. And they’ll take enormous risks, do anything…Marital sex tends toward the boring end…Generally, it doesn’t deliver the kind of sheer sexual pleasure that homosexual sex does. Actually, Paul, there are lots of people who find it easy to resist the siren call of homosexuality that you find so alluring. They’re called heterosexuals. ---
**Author:** ![Li\_l\_Pluck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ee59a6/32.png) [@Li\_l\_Pluck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Li_l_Pluck)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2007, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/email-from-the-religious-right-homosexuals-have-super-rights/404457/82 "2007-05-18T06:16:23Z")
[QUOTE=Dr. Rieux] \gay people are having gay sex. [/QUOTE] Sheee-it! Not \*\*all \*\* of us! ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Ca3799](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9f8e36/32.png) [@Ca3799](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ca3799)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2007, 10:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/email-from-the-religious-right-homosexuals-have-super-rights/404457/83 "2007-05-18T10:43:20Z")
[QUOTE=Sophistry and Illusion] Paul Cameron is (in)famous for his shoddy and unethical research techiques, by supporting his position by selectively citing his own papers (which are based on shoddy techniques, etc.). See [this article](http://indegayforum.org/news/show/26867.html) from the New Republic, or this [UC Davis professor’s](http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/rainbow/html/facts_cameron.html) bitchsmacking of him. Basically, he exhibits all the traits of many “Christian” organizations like the Eagle Forum and the Family Research Council–pathological dishonesty and blatant igoring of the facts driven by hatred of homosexuals and homosexuality. [/QUOTE] Wow, those guys are scummy. Does anyone know, are Paul and Kirk brothers? ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2007, 11:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/email-from-the-religious-right-homosexuals-have-super-rights/404457/84 "2007-05-18T11:26:12Z")
> [@](#): > > **Dr. Paul Cameron (as originally reported in Rolling Stone magazine)** > > Untrammeled homosexuality can take over and destroy a social system…If you isolate sexuality as something solely for one’s own personal amusement, and all you want is the most satisfying orgasm you can get–and that is what homosexuality seems to be–then homosexuality seems too powerful to resist. The evidence is that men do a better job on men and women on women, if all you are looking for is orgasm…I’m convinced that lesbians are particularly good seducers…People in homosexuality are incredibly evangelical…It’s pure sexuality. It’s almost like pure heroin. It’s such a rush. They are committed in almost a religious way. And they’ll take enormous risks, do anything…Marital sex tends toward the boring end…Generally, it doesn’t deliver the kind of sheer sexual pleasure that homosexual sex does. If someone asked me for a précis of that statement, I would render it thus: “My marital sex life fucking sucks, and my orgasms are disappointing. Homosexuals, on the other hand, particularly lesbians (who turn me on enormously), appear to be having far too much fun. I must drag them all down to my own personal level of wretched misery” ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2007, 11:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/email-from-the-religious-right-homosexuals-have-super-rights/404457/85 "2007-05-18T11:28:55Z")
[QUOTE=Voyager] The whole Republican party has to be completely infiltrated. Look at the Administration. Look at the current crop of candidates. If that isn’t a plot to discredit the ability of straight white males to run the country, then I don’t know what it is. [/QUOTE] I see it that way to a certain degree, but I don’t know if infiltrated is the right word. It’s an attempt by big business to discredit big government. However, I’ve for a long time believed that Patriarchy as a whole is rule by faggots. Look at the Catholic church. Now, I would like to point out that when I say faggot I mean it in a derogatory way that does not apply to all gay males. Faggot is a particular loathsome subspecies of the homosexual male. Being in the closet and working Manichean agendas helps to gain this moniker. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2007, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/email-from-the-religious-right-homosexuals-have-super-rights/404457/86 "2007-05-18T19:25:50Z")
Oh, this is going to go soooo well for you. Can’t say I’ll be sorry, either. ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2007, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/email-from-the-religious-right-homosexuals-have-super-rights/404457/87 "2007-05-18T19:29:41Z")
Someone needs to asplain something to me. If two homos do it and they use a condom, is it: 1 - More bad, because condoms are evil 2 - Less bad, because it’s a little less gay? -Joe ---
**Author:** ![OneCentStamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/13edae/32.png) [@OneCentStamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneCentStamp)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2007, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/email-from-the-religious-right-homosexuals-have-super-rights/404457/88 "2007-05-18T19:30:29Z")
[QUOTE=MrDibble] Oh, this is going to go soooo well for you. Can’t say I’ll be sorry, either. [/QUOTE] I composed a snarky reply to him, then realized that I’d only be sticking my hand in the stupid. :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2007, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/email-from-the-religious-right-homosexuals-have-super-rights/404457/89 "2007-05-18T20:08:04Z")
Looks like hands have already been stuck into the stupid, up in [Great Debates](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=420984&page=6). ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2007, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/email-from-the-religious-right-homosexuals-have-super-rights/404457/90 "2007-05-18T20:45:33Z")
Oh, my word, is it really using the “some of my best friends are gay…” excuse? I think it’s looking for another flameout on par with its jewbaiting one [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=7063345&postcount=63) It’s missing its bridge, is all. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2007, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/email-from-the-religious-right-homosexuals-have-super-rights/404457/91 "2007-05-18T20:59:26Z")
[QUOTE=MrDibble] Oh, my word, is it really using the “some of my best friends are gay…” excuse? I think it’s looking for another flameout on par with its jewbaiting one [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=7063345&postcount=63) It’s missing its bridge, is all. [/QUOTE] MsWas gets a bag of popcorn and waits for it to start popping. I think it might work better if you turn the flames on. I dunno though, do you have enough righteous indignation to keep the fuel burning? I’m a pretty thick steak and you wanna make sure you cook me all the way through, before you bite me. ;p ---
**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2007, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/email-from-the-religious-right-homosexuals-have-super-rights/404457/92 "2007-05-18T21:02:10Z")
What the heck is **untrammeled homosexuality**? Trammelled is: catch or hold in a net Un-trammelled would be without a net. So, homo’s are having sex without a net? That’s not safe sex. ---
**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2007, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/email-from-the-religious-right-homosexuals-have-super-rights/404457/93 "2007-05-18T21:08:14Z")
[QUOTE=Shirley Ujest] What the heck is **untrammeled homosexuality**? Trammelled is: catch or hold in a net Un-trammelled would be without a net. So, homo’s are having sex without a net? That’s not safe sex. [/QUOTE] The net is only needed when there is a trapeze bar or chandeliers involved. Sounds like he’s talking about pretty vanilla homos to me. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2007, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/email-from-the-religious-right-homosexuals-have-super-rights/404457/94 "2007-05-18T21:17:40Z")
[QUOTE=Antinor01] The net is only needed when there is a trapeze bar or chandeliers involved. Sounds like he’s talking about pretty vanilla homos to me. [/QUOTE] Well, that’s better than chocolate homos, don’tcha know 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2007, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/email-from-the-religious-right-homosexuals-have-super-rights/404457/95 "2007-05-18T21:21:08Z")
[QUOTE=Antinor01] The net is only needed when there is a trapeze bar or chandeliers involved. Sounds like he’s talking about pretty vanilla homos to me. [/QUOTE] Vanilla Homos. BAND NAME! ---
**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2007, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/email-from-the-religious-right-homosexuals-have-super-rights/404457/96 "2007-05-18T21:25:59Z")
[QUOTE=MrDibble] Well, that’s better than chocolate homos, don’tcha know 😉 [/QUOTE] Hey! I resemble that. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2007, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/email-from-the-religious-right-homosexuals-have-super-rights/404457/97 "2007-05-18T21:27:40Z")
mmm, neapolitan homos! (I don’t know, do Americans get neapolitan ice-cream as a flavour?) ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2007, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/email-from-the-religious-right-homosexuals-have-super-rights/404457/98 "2007-05-18T21:37:20Z")
[QUOTE=MrDibble] mmm, neapolitan homos! (I don’t know, do Americans get neapolitan ice-cream as a flavour?) [/QUOTE] We do. But we’re short a queer Indian for the complete three-flavors-in-one gay ice cream experience. ---
**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2007, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/email-from-the-religious-right-homosexuals-have-super-rights/404457/99 "2007-05-18T21:40:14Z")
[QUOTE=Shirley Ujest] Vanilla Homos. BAND NAME! [/QUOTE] I think that’s the first time a post of mine got the band name reaction. Cool. ---
**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2007, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/email-from-the-religious-right-homosexuals-have-super-rights/404457/100 "2007-05-18T21:55:24Z")
[QUOTE=Antinor01] I think that’s the first time a post of mine got the band name reaction. Cool. [/QUOTE] Not mine. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/email-from-the-religious-right-homosexuals-have-super-rights/404457.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/email-from-the-religious-right-homosexuals-have-super-rights/404457.md?page=6)