# Embryogenesis

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/embryogenesis/631004>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [August 9, 2012, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/embryogenesis/631004 "2012-08-09T21:47:15Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Ovis\_Arie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Ovis\_Arie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ovis_Arie)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2012, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/embryogenesis/631004/1 "2012-08-09T21:47:15Z")

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Through transparency of façade all points of light shall resurrect the virgin. Children unite the books of many, torn to deceive of ancient squalor. Build thy temple, protect ary seed, from they who false profit Pandora. Dine on the heads of snakes as one with a vengeance more powerful than love.

I Am Ovis Arie And So Are You

IN♂NOMINE♂AMORIS♂EPVLABITVR♂LEO

Living In Horror Since My Infant Eyes First Gazed Upon Her  
My Coy Ignored Their Whisper Fearing Glare Of Scholar  
Dawn The Age Of Lucifer No Longer Fear Obscurity  
Question All Certainty Not With Gun Or Sword  
Angels Chime Yellow Sand Of Salvation  
The Messengers Walk This Earth

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2012, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/embryogenesis/631004/2 "2012-08-09T21:58:34Z")

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After a quick google, [results](http://www.tennisforum.com/showthread.php?p=22002340#post22002340) [indicate](http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2077598) this is spam. Lovecraftian Christian spam, apparently. Reported.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2012, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/embryogenesis/631004/3 "2012-08-09T22:10:06Z")

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I guess this is a passage from the Spamcronomicon. What really gets me is the November 2008 registration date.

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2012, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/embryogenesis/631004/4 "2012-08-09T22:16:41Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> I guess this is a passage from the Spamcronomicon. What really gets me is the November 2008 registration date.

Wondering about this too. And furthermore, although the guy registered several years ago, this appears to be his FIRST post!

There was another like this just a few days ago – guy registered years ago, puts up his FIRST post, and it’s about six links (all in Chinese!) to various Chinese commercial web sites.

Like, WTF?

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**Author:** ![KarlGauss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karlgauss/32/3713_2.png) [@KarlGauss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGauss)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2012, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/embryogenesis/631004/5 "2012-08-09T22:19:28Z")

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> [@Ovis\_Arie](#):
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> Through transparency of façade all points of light shall resurrect the virgin. Children unite the books of many, torn to deceive of ancient squalor. Build thy temple, protect ary seed, from they who false profit Pandora.

“profit Pandora”? You mean like [this](http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=P)? Where’s the profit? It’s down all day!

ETA: Wait a minute. You said “false profit Pandora”. I take it that “false profit” means loss. Okay, makes sense then what happened today. You must be a prophet.

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2012, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/embryogenesis/631004/6 "2012-08-09T22:20:18Z")

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> [@Ovis\_Arie](#):
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> I Am Ovis Arie And So Are You

How sure can one be that he’s really Ovis Arie?

Okay, what I’m really asking this: The mods are often _really really quick_ to ban someone for posting blatant spam or trolling or other shit. But how certain is it that the registered user actually posted that? Maybe their accounts got hacked, or their own machines got hacked and some spam-bot or someone got their username and password. And then you ban the guy. Are there ever protests or complaints (from banned users) that something like this happened?

(Should this question rather be in ATMB than here?)

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2012, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/embryogenesis/631004/7 "2012-08-09T22:34:05Z")

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> [@Senegoid](#):
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> How sure can one be that he’s really Ovis Arie?
> 
> Okay, what I’m really asking this: The mods are often _really really quick_ to ban someone for posting blatant spam or trolling or other shit. But how certain is it that the registered user actually posted that? Maybe their accounts got hacked, or their own machines got hacked and some spam-bot or someone got their username and password. And then you ban the guy. Are there ever protests or complaints (from banned users) that something like this happened?
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> (Should this question rather be in ATMB than here?)

This is an interesting point. But if you Google “I Am Ovis Arie” you find this same stuff posted all over the web. It seems unlikely that the spammer who’s posting spam containing “I am Ovis Arie” all over the web just happened to hack into a four year old account of someone named Ovis Arie.

It’s almost like someone created this account four years ago and then patiently waited to post this, or maybe the whole thing is automated.

Weird.

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**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/embryogenesis/631004/8 "2012-08-10T00:34:48Z")

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Ovis Arie = Sheep Lover?

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**Author:** ![Michael63129](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3da27b/32.png) [@Michael63129](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael63129)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/embryogenesis/631004/9 "2012-08-10T00:43:26Z")

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> [@Senegoid](#):
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> Wondering about this too. And furthermore, although the guy registered several years ago, this appears to be his FIRST post!
> 
> There was another like this just a few days ago – guy registered years ago, puts up his FIRST post, and it’s about six links (all in Chinese!) to various Chinese commercial web sites.
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> Like, WTF?

The same is true of the two links to other sites by **Der Trihs** , all November 2008, which just strikes me as way too odd to be a coincidence, and why would somebody sign up on all of those sites (probably on the _same day_) and then on the _same day_ a few years later, post the same spam? In other words, I wonder if **Ovis Arie** is even a real person.

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/embryogenesis/631004/10 "2012-08-10T00:59:06Z")

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I Googled “I am Ovis Arie”.

[https://encrypted.google.com/search?q="i+am+ovis+arie"](https://encrypted.google.com/search?q=%22i+am+ovis+arie%22)

All of the results on the first page, except the last two, are the exact same post, by a member named Ovis Arie, with a join date of Nov. 2008 and a post date of today or yesterday (the day difference may be due to time zones).

The last two entries lead here: [http://ovisarie.com](http://ovisarie.com)

It doesn’t appear to have most of the nonsense in the spam but it does have the line “I Am Ovis Arie And So Are You”.

I’m going to poke around a little more. This is interesting.

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/embryogenesis/631004/11 "2012-08-10T01:04:28Z")

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The domain [ovisarie.com](http://ovisarie.com) was created July of this year. Unfortunately, the ownership info is anonymized.  
[Whois Lookup Captcha](http://whois.domaintools.com/ovisarie.com)

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/embryogenesis/631004/12 "2012-08-10T01:13:27Z")

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This page, while not repeating what’s in the spam, definitely echoes the style.

> **[OvisAries, Rise](https://ovisarie.com/ovisaries-rise/)**
>
> In Epistle Frequency Harmonization of Constant Pursuit Shall Forever and Always Return You To One Single Point In Time Build OvisAries Rise 8 23 888  

Plus, it has an embedded YouTube video of… O Fortuna! :eek: 😛

I would say that someone is just having some yucks, except that 4 years is an awful lot of patience for yucks.

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/embryogenesis/631004/13 "2012-08-10T02:09:54Z")

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Yucks is a dish best served cold.

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/embryogenesis/631004/14 "2012-08-10T02:19:04Z")

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I think we’re seeing religious mania of some kind here. The time lag may indicate an organization of some kind rather than an individual.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/embryogenesis/631004/15 "2012-08-10T04:54:27Z")

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I fear the glare of the scholar, don’t you?

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**Author:** ![Tastes\_of\_Chocolate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tastes_of_chocolate/32/3232_2.png) [@Tastes\_of\_Chocolate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tastes_of_Chocolate)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/embryogenesis/631004/16 "2012-08-10T18:52:19Z")

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Doesn’t the visibility of a post count also mean that the OP paid for a membership?

1. Join SDMB 2008
2. Pay membership fees
3. Wait 4 years
4. ???
5. Profit

Step 4 must somehow involve underpants.

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/embryogenesis/631004/17 "2012-08-10T19:06:33Z")

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I think you’re right. The guests in this thread don’t have their post counts displayed. I never noticed that.

Maybe there’s some bug causing the post count to be displayed for banned members? Otherwise, this person paid for a membership, maybe recently or maybe for four years, just to post this stuff?

Like I said, maybe this is more than one person, maybe a cult of some kind.

I’d be inclined to think it was a stealth campaign for some new movie or something except for the 4 year time lag.

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/embryogenesis/631004/18 "2012-08-10T19:18:36Z")

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Doing a Google search again shows more posted then were there before. All registered Nov 2008.

This board is as intrigued as we are: [Embryogenesis - Antsmarching.org Forums - Dave Matthews Band Discussion](http://antsmarching.org/forum/showthread.php?p=13937378)

And there’s this, on the same site: [Antsmarching.org Forums - Dave Matthews Band Discussion - View Profile: Ovis Arie](http://antsmarching.org/forum/member.php?u=169709)

> [@](#):
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> Ovis Arie  
> Not a bot, just some guy sitting in Canada. It a poem I thought I would share.

It’s almost a shame we banned this user. It would be interesting to see if there’s any follow up.

Can the mods tell us anything at all about this user? Did they actually pay a membership fee?

I’m way to intrigued by this. Gotta get a life.

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**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/embryogenesis/631004/19 "2012-08-10T23:27:25Z")

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[Embryogenesis.](http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=embryogenesis)

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**Author:** ![lazybratsche](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ba8739/32.png) [@lazybratsche](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lazybratsche)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2012, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/embryogenesis/631004/20 "2012-08-11T01:20:38Z")

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[Embryogenesis!](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQ86d9sTeaQ)

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