# Eminem, Humorless Turd Extrordinaire **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 10, 2003, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eminem-humorless-turd-extrordinaire/174294 "2003-05-10T06:45:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2003, 7:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eminem-humorless-turd-extrordinaire/174294/21 "2003-05-10T07:58:43Z")
I have merged “Fuck you, Marshall Mathers” (or something to that effect) into this thread, which has resulted in a non sequitor as the OP. Much as I loathe MM/Eminem, he still only gets ONE active thread. Lynn ---
**Author:** ![donkeyoatey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47c2d/32.png) [@donkeyoatey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/donkeyoatey)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2003, 8:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eminem-humorless-turd-extrordinaire/174294/22 "2003-05-10T08:08:46Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Lynn Bodoni \* > \*\* Much as I loathe MM. > > Lynn \*\* [M&M’s nazi] No chocolate for you. NEXT! [/M&M’s nazi] ---
**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2003, 10:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eminem-humorless-turd-extrordinaire/174294/23 "2003-05-10T10:31:09Z")
Wait, wait, wait. The net effect is that of a thread on Eminem which I never authored? Weird. False attribution of the OP? The “hear, hear” was a wiseass response to the “Marshall Mathers” thread, which had a title, bu tdid not have an actual OP. ---
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2003, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eminem-humorless-turd-extrordinaire/174294/24 "2003-05-10T13:14:21Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Tuckerfan \* > \*\*Actually, given Al’s blistering good job of savaging Nirvana’s _Smells Like Teen Spirit_, the fuckwad’s probably afraid that his fans will desert him for Al! (Frankly, I swear that Al just borrowed the master tapes from Nirvana and just laid his own vocals on top of them. The video looked _identical_ to Nirvana’s.) \*\* It _almost_ looks identical. Keep watching. The gym and extras are the same, though. Nirvana helped and so did the school. My personal favorite touch is the A+ cheerleaders. From what I’ve heard, Kurt loved it. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2003, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eminem-humorless-turd-extrordinaire/174294/25 "2003-05-10T14:46:05Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Mockingbird \* > \*\*Weird Al would just have to pay a higher royalty rate under mechanical license(which is when you record someone else’s song without their permission). \*\* Not so, he’s not recording the song, he’s recording a _parody_ which does not violate any copyrights. He does have the legal right to make the video anyway, it’s just his custom not to if the artist says no. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2003, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eminem-humorless-turd-extrordinaire/174294/26 "2003-05-10T14:48:49Z")
Sneak up behind Eminem and whisper in his ear: “Vanilla Ice” ---
**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2003, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eminem-humorless-turd-extrordinaire/174294/27 "2003-05-10T17:36:42Z")
**Allow me to reiterate, regardless of where you fall on the “Eminem spectrum,” that this thread is not mine, I did not write the OP, I could not care less about MM, and I find this whole thing decidedly bizarre.** ---
**Author:** ![Skillet38](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8797f3/32.png) [@Skillet38](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skillet38)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2003, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eminem-humorless-turd-extrordinaire/174294/28 "2003-05-10T18:23:07Z")
Ogre, why are you so obsessed with Eminem ? 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![Zenster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/cdc98d/32.png) [@Zenster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zenster)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2003, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eminem-humorless-turd-extrordinaire/174294/29 "2003-05-10T18:34:11Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Lynn Bodoni \* > I have merged “Fuck you, Marshall Mathers” (or something to that effect) into this thread, which has resulted in a non sequitor as the OP. **Lynn** , something is off the rails here, and it’s not just enema-em. Please investigate this incredible anomaly. **Ogre** , I did my best to indicate to the Mods that there was something screwy with the original post of the “Fuck You Marshall Mathers” thread. > [@](#): > > PS: Mods, I tried to open the “Fuck You Marshall Mathers” thread and it only showed Ogre’s post without any OP. If this thread is redundant, please lock it. Mods, it seems that **Ogre** is not happy with having this thread attributed to him. Please insert my screen name as the thread starter unless **Ogre** changes his mind. > [@](#): > > Much as I loathe MM/Eminem, he still only gets ONE active thread. > > Lynn [hands **Lynn** giant box of Godiva ultra-premium marbled seashell chocolates] **Enema-em** , methinks I have a keeper here! **Lynn** , if you would change the thread’s title to “ **Enema-em, Humorless Turd Extrodinaire** ”, I’d be deeply grateful. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2003, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eminem-humorless-turd-extrordinaire/174294/30 "2003-05-10T18:39:41Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Drastic \* > \*\*I’ve seen old interviews with Al where he mentioned he’s been told no before–he didn’t name names, but nudge-nudged strongly that it was Prince-formerly-known-as-the-artist-formerly-known-as-Prince. \*\* Probably because Prince is too busy being a parody of himself. ---
**Author:** ![Zenster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/cdc98d/32.png) [@Zenster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zenster)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2003, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eminem-humorless-turd-extrordinaire/174294/31 "2003-05-10T18:43:57Z")
I’ll add that however much I might not be enthralled with Prince’s work, he earns my respect in one single way. From what I understand, Prince redirects a substantial amount of money into finding and developing new artists. That alone is enough to make me give him some grudging admiration. Enema-em is a sulking little cretin whose work appeals to a sector of fandom that I would consider an insult to have admire me. > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Joe K \* > Weird Al is stopped from doing the video…seems that ol’ Marshall is afraid of being taken less seriously upon such a video being released. > > What an ignorant prick. However, all the better; perhaps this will decrease his possible future fanbase. **HEAR HEAR!** ---
**Author:** ![butter\_pie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/aca169/32.png) [@butter\_pie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/butter_pie)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2003, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eminem-humorless-turd-extrordinaire/174294/32 "2003-05-10T19:26:43Z")
Let me get this straight – Eminem is bitching about Weird Al making a parody of one of his songs, which are, for the most part, just rehashed and sampled older songs by other groups, with Eminem rapping over them/between the chorus? (i.e., “Sing for the Moment,” the one getting the most radio play right now.) Absolutely surreal. ---
**Author:** ![whiteboy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/d6d6ee/32.png) [@whiteboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/whiteboy)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2003, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eminem-humorless-turd-extrordinaire/174294/33 "2003-05-10T22:53:29Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by jinwicked \* > \*\*Let me get this straight – Eminem is bitching about Weird Al making a parody of one of his songs, which are, for the most part, just rehashed and sampled older songs by other groups, with Eminem rapping over them/between the chorus? (i.e., “Sing for the Moment,” the one getting the most radio play right now.) > > Absolutely surreal. \*\* i.e what else? also, the chorus of that song is not sampled, Steven Tyler laid down new vocals. ---
**Author:** ![Apos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/838e76/32.png) [@Apos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Apos)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2003, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eminem-humorless-turd-extrordinaire/174294/34 "2003-05-10T23:25:27Z")
In other news: Weird Al is definately staying hip and relevant in his satire. I wondered when Couch Potatoes were going to come in for a ribbing. I can’t wait until he finally gets around to poking fun at something from the 90s. ---
**Author:** ![butter\_pie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/aca169/32.png) [@butter\_pie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/butter_pie)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2003, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eminem-humorless-turd-extrordinaire/174294/35 "2003-05-10T23:29:42Z")
I don’t know, I’m not enough of a music buff to tell you which drum or guitar riff came from what rock song made back in the 80s, or whatever, but I listen to quite a bit of hiphop music, including Eminem, and I recognize stuff in it all the time. I actually like a lot of his music, I just think it’s kind of stupid that someone who works in a medium where borrowing stuff from other artists is the norm, would object to someone like Weird Al making a parody of his work. Especially when Weird Al clearly acknowledges the original artist, but the bits of sampled songs, drum beats and stuff are often little more than “Wait, haven’t I heard that before…?” I mean, maybe Steve Tyler should have told Eminem that he couldn’t make a video for that song because it could tarnish Aerosmith’s reputation. It just doesn’t make any sense to me. ---
**Author:** ![Odieman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a87d85/32.png) [@Odieman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odieman)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2003, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eminem-humorless-turd-extrordinaire/174294/36 "2003-05-11T00:06:47Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Zenster \* > \*\* > Enema-em is a sulking little cretin whose work appeals to a sector of fandom that I would consider an insult to have admire me. > > **HEAR HEAR!** \*\* Don’t worry, Zenster, I don’t think the people that you appeal to are exactly Eminem’s target audience. I am no Eminem fan but it seems that everybody that dislikes him attacks him for not being a “real musician”, ie. he doesn’t play an instrument or sing…well he does do something that strikes a chord with numerous people, who rightly or wrongly see him as an important artist…well then attacking him for not playing a real instrument or being a thug is as easy as attacking you for being pretentious… ---
**Author:** ![NDP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ndp/32/55_2.png) [@NDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NDP)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2003, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eminem-humorless-turd-extrordinaire/174294/37 "2003-05-11T01:32:57Z")
The fact that Eminem shot down Weird Al’s request is no surprise given that he’s already [roughed up a rubber dog puppet.](http://216.239.33.104/search?q=cache%3Ahttp://www.nwaonline.net/277059973898191.bsp) ---
**Author:** ![Ms2001](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ms2001/32/18463_2.png) [@Ms2001](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ms2001)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2003, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eminem-humorless-turd-extrordinaire/174294/38 "2003-05-11T02:25:00Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Apos \* > \*\*In other news: Weird Al is definately staying hip and relevant in his satire. I wondered when Couch Potatoes were going to come in for a ribbing. I can’t wait until he finally gets around to poking fun at something from the 90s. \*\* Well, there was “It’s All About The Pentiums”. ---
**Author:** ![Mockingbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c68b51/32.png) [@Mockingbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mockingbird)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2003, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eminem-humorless-turd-extrordinaire/174294/39 "2003-05-11T02:28:55Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Apos \* > \*\*In other news: Weird Al is definately staying hip and relevant in his satire. I wondered when Couch Potatoes were going to come in for a ribbing. I can’t wait until he finally gets around to poking fun at something from the 90s. \*\* What about **Gump** and **The Saga Begins**? ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2003, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eminem-humorless-turd-extrordinaire/174294/40 "2003-05-11T02:35:14Z")
Plus ‘Amish Paradise’, ‘Germs’ (which wasn’t a direct parody so far as I know, just a dig on Marilyn Manson), and ‘Jerry Springer’. I’m glad this thread caused me to pop over to his website. New album in 10 days! Woohoo! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eminem-humorless-turd-extrordinaire/174294.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eminem-humorless-turd-extrordinaire/174294.md?page=3)