# Eminem's "Mosh" - Wow! Where's my hoodie?! **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 26, 2004, 10:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eminems-mosh-wow-wheres-my-hoodie/271216 "2004-10-26T10:13:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2004, 10:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eminems-mosh-wow-wheres-my-hoodie/271216/1 "2004-10-26T10:13:34Z")
Hey, I’m old. I’m gray-haired. I’m painfully unhip. I’ve never liked much rap (other than a Neneh Cherry and Latifah phase). The thought of me ever “being into” Eminem is hilarious. However, I did like **8 Mile** as a movie, and I liked Eminem’s acting and music in the movie. I LOVE “MOSH”!! It’s not just because it’s intense, powerful, political and important. I actually like it as a song too. I hope the fact that an old, unhip person likes an Eminem song doesn’t mean that he’s on the way out. I’d hate to do that to him. (I already fear that The Daily Show and Countdown with Keith Olbermann will be cancelled because I watch them. I swear I jinx things). It’s available all over the net, which is good since I’m not sure if it’ll get airplay. Here are a few places where the video can be found: [http://www.archive.org/download/Mosh/Mosh\_bb1.mov](http://www.archive.org/download/Mosh/Mosh_bb1.mov) [http://gnn.tv/videos/viewer.php?id=27&spd=lo](http://gnn.tv/videos/viewer.php?id=27&spd=lo) [http://boss.streamos.com/qtime/interscope/eminem/encore/video/mosh-rev/300\_mosh-rev.mov](http://boss.streamos.com/qtime/interscope/eminem/encore/video/mosh-rev/300_mosh-rev.mov) Yep, I will be wearing a black hoodie on election day (the hood will cover up my gray hair). ---
**Author:** ![yojimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yojimbo/32/232_2.png) [@yojimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yojimbo)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2004, 10:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eminems-mosh-wow-wheres-my-hoodie/271216/2 "2004-10-26T10:45:18Z")
What a great song and video. He can kick ass no question. I loved the rap battle in 8 mile. Let’s hope for lots and lots of young hoodies in a weeks time taking their country back 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Sayid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a6a055/32.png) [@Jack\_Sayid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Sayid)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2004, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eminems-mosh-wow-wheres-my-hoodie/271216/3 "2004-10-26T15:06:05Z")
Wow, Eminem strikes again. I’m not a huge hip-hop fan, but this guy is light years ahead of everybody else, in every way. What a talent! ---
**Author:** ![Slacker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6bbea6/32.png) [@Slacker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slacker)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2004, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eminems-mosh-wow-wheres-my-hoodie/271216/4 "2004-10-26T15:16:27Z")
I’m not a fan of the man by any means, but this is a brilliant polemic. I’m impressed. I’d bust out the hoodie too, but I already voted last week. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2004, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eminems-mosh-wow-wheres-my-hoodie/271216/5 "2004-10-26T16:07:56Z")
Good gods, is he channeling Zach de la Rocha? ---
**Author:** ![JoeSki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b487fb/32.png) [@JoeSki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JoeSki)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2004, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eminems-mosh-wow-wheres-my-hoodie/271216/6 "2004-10-26T17:37:48Z")
None of those links worked for me. Is there anyplace I can watch the video with either a realtime, or windos video player? ---
**Author:** ![Chairman\_Pow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/838e76/32.png) [@Chairman\_Pow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chairman_Pow)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2004, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eminems-mosh-wow-wheres-my-hoodie/271216/7 "2004-10-26T17:56:40Z")
> [@JoeSki](#): > > None of those links worked for me. Is there anyplace I can watch the video with either a realtime, or windos video player? Try this link: [http://launch.yahoo.com/artist/videos.asp?artistID=1037847](http://launch.yahoo.com/artist/videos.asp?artistID=1037847) It’s also got some other videos of his. As a former professor would have said, “pleasingly ambitious,” but the mixed media (or rather, mixed animation styles) falls short. I’m glad that he’s stopped trying to create a legion of mindless Shadies (although I can’t recall what video that was in) and has got a message. ---
**Author:** ![Electronic\_Chaos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Electronic\_Chaos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Electronic_Chaos)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2004, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eminems-mosh-wow-wheres-my-hoodie/271216/8 "2004-10-26T18:19:11Z")
> [@Chairman Pow](#): > > Try this link: [http://launch.yahoo.com/artist/videos.asp?artistID=1037847](http://launch.yahoo.com/artist/videos.asp?artistID=1037847) > > It’s also got some other videos of his. > > As a former professor would have said, “pleasingly ambitious,” but the mixed media (or rather, mixed animation styles) falls short. > > I’m glad that he’s stopped trying to create a legion of mindless Shadies (although I can’t recall what video that was in) and has got a message. Erm…You may be thinking of Real Slim Shady, except he was trying to STOP the legions of mindless Shady-wannabes. > [@](#): > > I’m Slim Shady > Yes I’m the Real Shady > Will you all you other Slim Shadies > Please stop imitating? ---
**Author:** ![Indygrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@Indygrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indygrrl)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2004, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eminems-mosh-wow-wheres-my-hoodie/271216/9 "2004-10-26T18:22:01Z")
Just saw it today. Very powerful. Say what you will about Eminem, but he’s a genius, IMO. I’d love to see droves of hoodies next Tuesday. ---
**Author:** ![Chairman\_Pow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/838e76/32.png) [@Chairman\_Pow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chairman_Pow)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2004, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eminems-mosh-wow-wheres-my-hoodie/271216/10 "2004-10-26T18:26:44Z")
> [@xgxlx](#): > > Erm…You may be thinking of Real Slim Shady, except he was trying to STOP the legions of mindless Shady-wannabes. Nope, this was a video (I know him primarily from those Launch videos) where he talks about looking around and seeing the most beautiful thing where everyone is dressed like him and thinks like him. White America perhaps? ---
**Author:** ![Indygrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@Indygrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indygrrl)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2004, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eminems-mosh-wow-wheres-my-hoodie/271216/11 "2004-10-26T18:34:22Z")
> [@Chairman Pow](#): > > Nope, this was a video (I know him primarily from those Launch videos) where he talks about looking around and seeing the most beautiful thing where everyone is dressed like him and thinks like him. White America perhaps? I think he was making more of a political statement about how much influence he has over today’s kids rather than saying it’s the most beautiful thing he’s ever seen. Also an insightful commentary about race and rap, etc. [http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/eminem/whiteamerica.html](http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/eminem/whiteamerica.html) ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2004, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eminems-mosh-wow-wheres-my-hoodie/271216/12 "2004-10-26T18:49:38Z")
> [@yojimbo](#): > > Let’s hope for lots and lots of young hoodies in a weeks time taking their country back 😉 And old hoodies! I watched the video a few times, and I noticed that there are all types of people wearing the hoodies. There was a middle-aged fat guy, and a gray-haired granny in there too. I love how it almost seems as if he’s advocating violence, then you see that he’s actually advocating voting. **Power in numbers** is a powerful message for people who think “one vote won’t matter.” ---
**Author:** ![Chairman\_Pow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/838e76/32.png) [@Chairman\_Pow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chairman_Pow)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2004, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eminems-mosh-wow-wheres-my-hoodie/271216/13 "2004-10-26T21:00:13Z")
> [@Indygrrl](#): > > I think he was making more of a political statement about how much influence he has over today’s kids rather than saying it’s the most beautiful thing he’s ever seen. Also an insightful commentary about race and rap, etc. > > [http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/eminem/whiteamerica.html](http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/eminem/whiteamerica.html) Ah, I misremembered the lyrics. Well, keep up the good work, Em/Mar/Slim. ---
**Author:** ![yojimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yojimbo/32/232_2.png) [@yojimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yojimbo)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2004, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eminems-mosh-wow-wheres-my-hoodie/271216/14 "2004-10-26T21:13:24Z")
> [@Equipoise](#): > > I love how it almost seems as if he’s advocating violence, then you see that he’s actually advocating voting. **Power in numbers** is a powerful message for people who think “one vote won’t matter.” That’s by far my favourite section of the video. Very effective misdirection leading to a very strong statement and to me quite moving as well. Excellent all round. I’m gonna show my 65year old Da this tomorrow when he drops into my apartment. I think he’ll love it. ---
**Author:** ![yojimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yojimbo/32/232_2.png) [@yojimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yojimbo)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2004, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eminems-mosh-wow-wheres-my-hoodie/271216/15 "2004-10-26T21:15:58Z")
The 9/11 ref at the very beginning is also quite effective and very well handled IMO. ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2004, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eminems-mosh-wow-wheres-my-hoodie/271216/16 "2004-10-27T00:19:29Z")
I said it probably wouldn’t get airplay, but apparantly MTV’s TRL played it tonight. Good! ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2004, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eminems-mosh-wow-wheres-my-hoodie/271216/17 "2004-10-27T01:33:06Z")
I am listening to it for the second time right now and it’s growing on me a bit but I’m not enamored with it. I was expecting something as intense, angry, or visceral as “Soldier” or even “The Way I Am” and the comparitively slow beat just doesn’t get me into it like it otherwise could. With that being said, I like it… I just wish it were better. ---
**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2004, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eminems-mosh-wow-wheres-my-hoodie/271216/18 "2004-10-27T01:48:10Z")
I can’t believe I’m crying because of a video. And a rap video, at that. I’d like to blame it on pregnancy hormones, but that wouldn’t be honoring the work and talent of a fine artist. I \*like \* the slow pulse of the beat - the heartbeat of a nation, perhaps? Who woulda thunk Woody Guthrie’s torch would be carried by Eminem? ---
**Author:** ![voguevixen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b5ac83/32.png) [@voguevixen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voguevixen)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2004, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eminems-mosh-wow-wheres-my-hoodie/271216/19 "2004-10-27T01:53:12Z")
> [@Equipoise](#): > > I said it probably wouldn’t get airplay, but apparantly MTV’s TRL played it tonight. > > Good! As little respect as I have for MTV, I suspect their requests/played videos are legit. I remember a few years back a lot of college kids emailed each other and requested something old and horrible (like “Hangin’ Tough” by NKOTB) and they played it. Likewise (but much less interesting) the local radio station of my hometown (U93, Elkhart Indiana, heh) played “Grandma got Run Over by a Raindeer” in mid-June on their “top 10 at 10” countdown because all the highschools got together and called in lameo votes for it. The semi-odd thing is that he waited so long to release it. In many (most?) places it’s too late to register to vote, and most of the people registered have already cemented their choice. Crossing my fingers, though! ---
**Author:** ![look\_ninjas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b2d939/32.png) [@look\_ninjas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/look_ninjas)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2004, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eminems-mosh-wow-wheres-my-hoodie/271216/20 "2004-10-28T03:46:05Z")
> [@voguevixen](#): > > The semi-odd thing is that he waited so long to release it. In many (most?) places it’s too late to register to vote, and most of the people registered have already cemented their choice. Well, there was a big push this summer to get people registered to vote, especially younger people. I wonder if the timing of this was designed to remind them that registering is only the first step; now it’s time to take that card out to the polls and actually vote. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eminems-mosh-wow-wheres-my-hoodie/271216.md?page=2)