# Emmy Winners! **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 12, 2005, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/emmy-winners/321269 "2005-09-12T17:01:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2005, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/emmy-winners/321269/1 "2005-09-12T17:01:44Z")
Yes, the main Emmy telecast is next week, at which time all the major category winners (Series, Acting, Writing, Directing) will be announced. But there are dozens of creative (“technical”) categories as well, and those winners were announced this past weekend. Undoubtedly the best news is **South Park** winning Best Animated Series for its brilliant “Best Friends Forever” episode. This is its first Emmy after being nominated 5 times. Other winners: 6 _The Life and Death of Peter Sellers_ - Cinematography, Editing, Sound Editing, Make-Up, Hairstyling, Visual Effects 5 _Deadwood_ - Cinematography, Art Direction, Costumes, Make-Up, Hairstyling (Total Series Tally: 7) 4 _Desparate Housewives_ - Editing, Casting, Title Music (Danny Elfman! Yeah!), Guest Actress (Kathryn Joosten) _Lost_ - Editing, Music Underscore, Editing, Visual FX 3 _Death in Gaza_ - Exceptional Merit in Non-Fiction Filmmaking, Writing, Cinematography _24_ - Sound Editing, Sound Mixing, Stunt Coordination (Total Series Tally: 11) _Unforgivable Blackness: The Rise and Fall of Jack Johnson_ - Non-Fiction Special, Writing, Voice-Over Performance _Warm Springs_ - Art Direction, Music Underscore, Sound Mixing 2 _Broadway: The American Musical_ - Non-Fiction Series, Sound Mixing _The Lost Prince_ - Art Direction, Costumes _The XXVIII Olympiad Opening Ceremony_ - Technical Direction, Lighting Direction _Will & Grace_ - Guest Actor (Bobby Cannavale), Cinematography (Total Series Tally: 14) 1 _The Amazing Race_ (Editing; TST:3), _ER_ (Guest Actor: Ray Liotta; TST:22), _Extreme Makeover: Home Edition_ (Reality Program), _George Lopez_ (Lighting Direction), _Huff_ (Title Design), _Lackawanna Blues_ (Casting), _The Late Show w/David Letterman_ (Technical Direction; TST:9), _L&O: SVU_ (Guest Actress: Amanda Plummer), _MADtv_ (Costumes; TST:2), _Scrubs_ (Editing), _2 1/2 Men_ (Sound Mixing) ---
**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2005, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/emmy-winners/321269/2 "2005-09-12T17:59:41Z")
Lost won casting (drama) not editing twice. Did you find that list somewhere or compile it yourself. I found the raw list (every award), but not a list by show. Brian ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2005, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/emmy-winners/321269/3 "2005-09-12T18:33:06Z")
> [@N9IWP](#): > > Lost won casting (drama) not editing twice. > > Did you find that list somewhere or compile it yourself. I found the raw list (every award), but not a list by show. > Brian Whoops, thanks for the correction. No, I compiled it myself from [here](http://www.emmys.tv/downloads/images/2005emmys/2005caawinners.doc) (plus the Emmy site has a handy Awards search function to look up the various award histories). ---
**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2005, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/emmy-winners/321269/4 "2005-09-12T19:55:17Z")
Wow. Thanks for the work. I looked because I thought maybe there bot an individual episode and entire series editing award or something. Brian ---
**Author:** ![Walloon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/fbc32d/32.png) [@Walloon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walloon)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2005, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/emmy-winners/321269/5 "2005-09-12T20:25:45Z")
> [@ArchiveGuy](#): > > But there are dozens of creative (“technical”) categories as well, and those winners were announced this past weekend. Arggh. This is a pet peeve of mine. Categories like editing, cinematography, art direction, costumes, hairstyling, etc., are _not_ “technical” awards. The technical awards do not even go to individual shows. The [technology and engineering](http://www.emmyonline.org/emmy/tech.html) Emmy Awards are for inventions and processes, and are given out at a separate ceremony. ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2005, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/emmy-winners/321269/6 "2005-09-12T20:32:16Z")
> [@Walloon](#): > > Arggh. This is a pet peeve of mine. Categories like editing, cinematography, art direction, costumes, hairstyling, etc., are _not_ “technical” awards. > > The technical awards do not even go to individual shows. The [technology and engineering](http://www.emmyonline.org/emmy/tech.html) Emmy Awards are for inventions and processes, and are given out at a separate ceremony. I put “technical” in quotations because that’s what they are often casually referred to, even though, as you point out, it isn’t accurate. I understand it’s an ongoing frustration for you (since you post about it constantly), but let’s be frank–it’s not just shorthand phraseology used by rubes and know-nothings; trades like _Variety_ and _The Hollywood Reporter_ call categories like these “Technical” awards all the time. Wrong or right, good or bad, the fact remains that it’s become a standard part of the industry vernarcular. ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2005, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/emmy-winners/321269/7 "2005-09-12T20:46:24Z")
Oh, I should also mention that Angela Lansbury’s loss in the Guest Actress category (she was up for a part in _L&O: SVU/Trial by Jury_) means she has gone home empty-handed from the Emmys 18 times (a whopping 12 of those for _Murder She Wrote_), never having won. ---
**Author:** ![mobo85](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b19c9b/32.png) [@mobo85](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mobo85)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2005, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/emmy-winners/321269/8 "2005-09-12T22:46:17Z")
The list posted by _Archive Guy_ is not the complete list, there are a few omissions, most notably (in my opinion) the award for Outstanding Commerical which went to Ameriquest Mortgage for its spot “Surprise Dinner,” which recieved a number of praises from fellow dopers when it first aired during Super Bowl XXXIX. My mom and I liked it too. (This is the spot where a man is preparing dinner for a ladyfriend, but due to spilled pasta sauce and a well-placed knife, she thinks he’s killing a cat instead.) Also congratulations are in order to the three Individual Achievement in Animation awards for one of my new favorite animated shows, _Foster’s Home for Imaginary Friends_, including a well-deserved awardity for the storyboard for the very funny “World Wide Wabbit” episodeity, said funny bunny to sweet little girl. ---
**Author:** ![mobo85](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b19c9b/32.png) [@mobo85](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mobo85)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2005, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/emmy-winners/321269/9 "2005-09-12T22:47:18Z")
Oops. **ArchiveGuy** is one word, and it should be bolded. ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2005, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/emmy-winners/321269/10 "2005-09-12T23:06:35Z")
Thanks **mobo85** –I only listed the main series and multiple winners, but I did not make the connection between the Commercial winner and the ad you described until your post. That is a great commercial. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Walloon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/fbc32d/32.png) [@Walloon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walloon)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2005, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/emmy-winners/321269/11 "2005-09-13T03:41:37Z")
> [@ArchiveGuy](#): > > I understand it’s an ongoing frustration for you (since you post about it constantly) Apparently once in six months is “constantly” (last time was on Oscar night, March 1). ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2005, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/emmy-winners/321269/12 "2005-09-13T17:40:03Z")
> [@Walloon](#): > > Apparently once in six months is “constantly” (last time was on Oscar night, March 1). You’re right: “constantly” was the wrong word. How about religiously? 3 months before 2005 Oscars - 3 posts; 3 months before 2004 Oscars - 5 posts; 3 months before 2003 Oscars - 3 posts. This is the first time you’ve mentioned it about the Emmys, though, in all fairness. None of which addresses the real point, which is that the use of the term “technical” to describe these awards (no matter how technically inaccurate) is ubiquitous within the industry, the trades, and is generally understood by the public. The use of the term this way (though fodder for nitpicking) also doesn’t present any confusion because of this general understanding. And the citation of individual films within the actual Scientific & Technical awards (for the Oscars; can’t speak for the Emmys) is not without precedent, though it is rare. So my parenthetical use of the word in quotes in this context was neither wrong nor inappropriate.