# Enduring Freedom? **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [October 26, 2001, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enduring-freedom/89837 "2001-10-26T18:54:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2001, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enduring-freedom/89837/1 "2001-10-26T18:54:20Z")
We’re calling it that now? Now, do not get me wrong. I’ve been following the news, but it’s because of that that I just saw a report on CNN that the British are joining “Operation Enduring Freedom”. Infinite Justice-\>Infinite Freedom-\>Enduring Freedom-\>? I liked Mr. Rilch’s suggestion: Operation Desert Wrath. ---
**Author:** ![Crusoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/49beb7/32.png) [@Crusoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crusoe)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2001, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enduring-freedom/89837/2 "2001-10-26T18:58:02Z")
It was ‘Infinite Justice’. It got changed, since that phrase proved offensive to some of the more moderate Middle Eastern states that we’re not trying to piss off (bugger ‘political correctness’ sneers, that’s just plain common-sense diplomacy). The name became ‘Enduring Freedom’. I don’t recall it ever being called ‘Enduring Justice’. ---
**Author:** ![morrigan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f04885/32.png) [@morrigan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/morrigan)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2001, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enduring-freedom/89837/3 "2001-10-26T18:59:59Z")
It seems like I heard that “Infinite Justice” was offensive to Muslims because they believe that only Allah can dispense infinite justice. So… in order to appease the Middle Eastern countries that are being somewhat supportive, we changed the name again. I have no idea why it was changed the first time. Does anybody else know? ---
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2001, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enduring-freedom/89837/4 "2001-10-26T22:32:55Z")
No offense, but do either of you read before you post? I know it started out as “Infinite Justice”, and I know why it was changed. **Crusoe** , I never said it was “Enduring Justice”. (And I also know that “Noble Eagle” is the separate program for the defense of North America.) **morrigan** , what do you mean “changed the first time”? Do you mean the **second** time, to “Enduring Freedom”? That’s what I’m asking: why and when. ---
**Author:** ![Daowajan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3bc359/32.png) [@Daowajan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Daowajan)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2001, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enduring-freedom/89837/5 "2001-10-26T23:50:44Z")
Does anyone else think “Enduring Freedom” might be the lamest thing they could have called it? ---
**Author:** ![Crusoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/49beb7/32.png) [@Crusoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crusoe)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2001, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enduring-freedom/89837/6 "2001-10-26T23:54:00Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Rilchiam \* > \*\*No offense, but do either of you read before you post? I know it started out as “Infinite Justice”, and I know why it was changed. **Crusoe** , I never said it was “Enduring Justice”. (And I also know that “Noble Eagle” is the separate program for the defense of North America.) > > **morrigan** , what do you mean “changed the first time”? Do you mean the **second** time, to “Enduring Freedom”? That’s what I’m asking: why and when. \*\* Oh, duh me. I meant ‘Infinite Freedom’. I don’t think it was ever called that. Apologies. I wasn’t paying full attention. ---
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2001, 6:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enduring-freedom/89837/7 "2001-10-27T06:36:21Z")
S’okay. I’m just wondering if “infinite” is another of those terms that people take the wrong way. Like “Live Free or Die” on the New Hampshire license plates/as the state motto. ---
**Author:** ![justwannano](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7ab992/32.png) [@justwannano](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/justwannano)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2001, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enduring-freedom/89837/8 "2001-10-27T14:47:20Z")
> [@](#): > > Does anyone else think “Enduring Freedom” might be the lamest thing they could have called it? I think it should have been called" I can’t wait to get my hands on you you piss poor excuse for human being(s)"