# Energy Enhancement System, scalar waves - is this legit? **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [August 27, 2024, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/energy-enhancement-system-scalar-waves-is-this-legit/1006310 "2024-08-27T13:04:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2024, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/energy-enhancement-system-scalar-waves-is-this-legit/1006310/1 "2024-08-27T13:04:08Z")
my town has one of these places where you pay to use this and I’m not even sure what it is. It really sounds bogus but I wanted to hear what others think. [from the website of the inventor](https://eesystem.com/what-is-ee-system/) > The Energy Enhancement SystemTM (EESystemTM) generates multiple bio-active life enhancing energy fields, including “scalar waves” which can allow cell regeneration, improve immune function, provide relief from pain, detoxify the body, elevate moods, and assist in balancing right and left hemispheres of the brain to increase energy levels claims it > uses custom-installed computers to generate morphogenic energy fields that can promote healing. has anyone else even heard of this? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2024, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/energy-enhancement-system-scalar-waves-is-this-legit/1006310/2 "2024-08-27T13:10:51Z")
The red flag density could rival a neutron star. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2024, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/energy-enhancement-system-scalar-waves-is-this-legit/1006310/3 "2024-08-27T13:11:11Z")
I’ve not heard of this, but a look at that website includes this paragraph: > [@](#): > > There appears to be some form of inter-dimensional or high super scalar energy being generated, which when a person sits i a room with the EESystem technology running, their entire life force improves. One word: woooooooo. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2024, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/energy-enhancement-system-scalar-waves-is-this-legit/1006310/4 "2024-08-27T13:15:02Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > The red flag density could rival a neutron star. You would definitely win Woo Bingo after reading that first paragraph. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2024, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/energy-enhancement-system-scalar-waves-is-this-legit/1006310/5 "2024-08-27T13:19:54Z")
Pretty much anything being advertised with the word “scalar” is a scam. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2024, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/energy-enhancement-system-scalar-waves-is-this-legit/1006310/6 "2024-08-27T13:25:03Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > Pretty much anything being advertised with the word “scalar” is a scam. - And “de-toxify”. This is a gold mine of bullshittery: “The Energy Enhancement SystemTM (EESystemTM) generates multiple bio-active life enhancing energy fields”. ---
**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2024, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/energy-enhancement-system-scalar-waves-is-this-legit/1006310/7 "2024-08-27T13:29:08Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > The red flag density could rival a neutron star. yes, I though so, too. the combo of “this fixes everything” combined with not really understanding what they are talking about. my motivation for asking is not because I was looking to use the service but just to understand what it is they are using and claim is so beneficial. At work, I see the person who owns the local place using this system and I have no desire to debunk whatever their claims are, but I do want to understand what is physically happening. When I ask, it doesn’t make any more sense than the website does. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2024, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/energy-enhancement-system-scalar-waves-is-this-legit/1006310/8 "2024-08-27T13:29:19Z")
[They’re selling a tesseract.](https://eesystem.com/eeqube-from-eesystem/) > ## A tesseract of transformational bio-active information dense hyper-healthy scalar energy. > > ### Price: $14,995 > > Black box technology featuring a scaled down, inverted, energy and space efficient version of our 4-unit EESystem creating a very effective and beautiful scalar photon fountain. $14,995 includes shipping within the United States, slightly extra outside of the USA and Hawaii. > > EEQube is a miniaturized 4 unit system, aligned for precise phase conjugation inside the cube creating coherence and nullification of detrimental field effects, with the monitors facing out for generation of the quantum photonic fields. The longitudinal scalar field effect is broadcast from this true standing columnar wave. The technology itself is more than scalar in that it also has the bio photonic (light), DNA patterns, and cellular communication algorithms that are broadcast via the monitors. Using approximately one third the power of a standard 4-unit EESystem, it boasts being aesthetically pleasing, semi portable, compact, more affordable, and utilizing less electricity than a standard system. Ideal for those with smaller homes, offices, or spaces, budgets, lower power / green living spaces, or those simply wishing to have a transportable EESystem. > > EEQube contains 4 small EES units that stay precision aligned in its cube housing. This means no installation issues and no calibration is required. All components are modular which means they can be swapped out in seconds for easy service and maintenance. The EEQube may be adapted for use in any country with different voltage requirements ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2024, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/energy-enhancement-system-scalar-waves-is-this-legit/1006310/9 "2024-08-27T13:32:28Z")
That second paragraph is something, that’s for sure. “Scalar”, “photonic”, “phase conjugation”…Bingo! ---
**Author:** ![engineer\_comp\_geek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/engineer_comp_geek/32/504_2.png) [@engineer\_comp\_geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/engineer_comp_geek)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2024, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/energy-enhancement-system-scalar-waves-is-this-legit/1006310/10 "2024-08-27T13:35:19Z")
> [@JackieLikesVariety](#): > > including “scalar waves” Woo. Scaler waves are electromagnetic waves that exist outside of our known understanding of physics, supposedly. If they even exist (doubtful), by their definition they are something that, at best, we just don’t understand. In other words, bullshit. > [@JackieLikesVariety](#): > > which can allow cell regeneration The human body heals by cells dividing and replacing damaged cells. This process is NOT enhanced by the presence of any sort of electromagnetic field. In fact, electromagnetic energy can interfere with this process and reduce healing. This isn’t always a bad thing. Some research is being done using electromagnetic energy to prevent cell division and growth in tumors. Basically, you are “healing” the body by killing off the bad cells. You aren’t making new cells grow better, you’re just killing off bad cells. > [@JackieLikesVariety](#): > > provide relief from pain Eh, maybe. The human body does respond to electrical stimuli. If applied correctly, it can be pleasurable, or at the least it can be used to relieve pain. Google “TENS”, for example (Transcutaneous Electrical Nerve Stimulation). > [@JackieLikesVariety](#): > > detoxify the body As long as you have functional kidneys, your body already removes toxins. You don’t have toxins building up anywhere in your body, and anything that claims that it will “detoxify” is pretty much guaranteed to be woo. On the other hand, if you don’t have functional kidneys, toxins do build up. That’s the whole point of dialysis, to remove the toxins that build up since your kidneys aren’t removing them. > [@JackieLikesVariety](#): > > elevate moods Possible. Again, see TENS. Electromagnetic therapy can be used to make the body release endorphins. > [@JackieLikesVariety](#): > > assist in balancing right and left hemispheres Say what, now? I have never heard of any biological process where the brain “balances” anything. This one completely pegged my bullshit meter. It seems to be based on a massive misunderstanding of human biology and brain functions. The technical descriptions of this thing remind me a lot of Star Trek. It’s a lot of fancy technical-sounding words that are all basically technobabble at best. ---
**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2024, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/energy-enhancement-system-scalar-waves-is-this-legit/1006310/11 "2024-08-27T13:35:24Z")
dang it, I wish I had titled this thread differently. I had already realized there is no way it is legit - it fixes everything! it’s way too complicated but you just have to pay them money and then sit there and you are healthier! - but what I want to ask is WHAT is actually happening? physically? not in a person’s body but in the room with this system? ---
**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2024, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/energy-enhancement-system-scalar-waves-is-this-legit/1006310/12 "2024-08-27T13:38:15Z")
I wonder if I rename it a “Photon Fountain” if I would be able to re-sell my flashlight for $2,000. ---
**Author:** ![engineer\_comp\_geek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/engineer_comp_geek/32/504_2.png) [@engineer\_comp\_geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/engineer_comp_geek)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2024, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/energy-enhancement-system-scalar-waves-is-this-legit/1006310/13 "2024-08-27T13:40:21Z")
> [@JackieLikesVariety](#): > > WHAT is actually happening? That is probably a very heavily guarded secret from the “inventor”. From the looks of things, they stick you on a bed surrounded by a bunch of computer monitors displaying garbage. I couldn’t find any technical information about how the system is actually supposed to work. ---
**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2024, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/energy-enhancement-system-scalar-waves-is-this-legit/1006310/14 "2024-08-27T13:40:25Z")
Your quote that I read is “Techno Babble” designed to impress people into throwing away their money. ---
**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2024, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/energy-enhancement-system-scalar-waves-is-this-legit/1006310/15 "2024-08-27T13:42:59Z")
yes, you can. > [@engineer\_comp\_geek](#): > > I couldn’t find any technical information about how the system is actually supposed to work. no, I couldn’t either but since I actually know people using it, I wanted to be able to have a conversation about it. because “that’s just bullshit” is not a conversation. ---
**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2024, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/energy-enhancement-system-scalar-waves-is-this-legit/1006310/16 "2024-08-27T13:46:16Z")
Would it count as trolling if I start selling an “Orgone Cleansing System” that removes harmful Orgone from the environment? ---
**Author:** ![Machine\_Elf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@Machine\_Elf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Machine_Elf)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2024, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/energy-enhancement-system-scalar-waves-is-this-legit/1006310/17 "2024-08-27T13:47:10Z")
> [@Hypno-Toad](#): > > I wonder if I rename it a “Photon Fountain” if I would be able to re-sell my flashlight for $2,000. Call it a “photon cannon”, and you might have something marketable. “Launches particles at relativistic velocities” ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2024, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/energy-enhancement-system-scalar-waves-is-this-legit/1006310/18 "2024-08-27T13:49:22Z")
> [@JackieLikesVariety](#): > > no, I couldn’t either but since I actually know people using it, I wanted to be able to have a conversation about it. > > because “that’s just bullshit” is not a conversation. The chances of you being able to abase a woo-follower of their woo-beliefs no matter what information you have is vanishingly close to zero. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2024, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/energy-enhancement-system-scalar-waves-is-this-legit/1006310/19 "2024-08-27T13:51:12Z")
> [@JackieLikesVariety](#): > > no, I couldn’t either but since I actually know people using it, I wanted to be able to have a conversation about it. Hard to say what a person in the room would experience without seeing it. There’s an infinite number of ways to fleece the rubes. Just put out a fancy looking machine with a couple indicator lights and some kind of LED screen and maybe beeps now and again. Sit the person in a comfortable chair and either attach some leads or surround them with some sort of gear, and turn down the lights and tell them the gizmo is doing its thing. That’s just one way. There’s a lot of potential variations for that scenario alone. Rather than trying to have some kind of ‘intelligent’ conversation about it, it would be better all around to just point them to this nifty magnetic bracelet on my wrist and tell them it does the same thing at a fraction of the cost (note: this part is actually true). And if you were the dishonest/entrepreneurial sort, to tell them they could have it for the low, low price of $\< whatever you want\> ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2024, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/energy-enhancement-system-scalar-waves-is-this-legit/1006310/20 "2024-08-27T14:18:11Z")
They already sell their own magic bracelets. > **[Bioscalar Enhanced Products | Energy Enhancement System™](https://eesystem.com/bioscalar-enhanced-products/)** (Check out the “medallion study” PDF.) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/energy-enhancement-system-scalar-waves-is-this-legit/1006310.md?page=2)