# Energy Enhancement System, scalar waves - is this legit?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/energy-enhancement-system-scalar-waves-is-this-legit/1006310>\
**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [August 27, 2024, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/energy-enhancement-system-scalar-waves-is-this-legit/1006310 "2024-08-27T13:04:08Z")\
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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2024, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/energy-enhancement-system-scalar-waves-is-this-legit/1006310/41 "2024-08-27T16:35:24Z")

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> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> Certainly you won’t if you insist on using the word “woo”.
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> “I used to believe in XYZ but then someone called me a woo and that changed my mind” said no one ever.

I didn’t say you should call delusional idiots delusional idiots to their faces. Simply stating that delusional idiots hold their delusions very tightly.

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2024, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/energy-enhancement-system-scalar-waves-is-this-legit/1006310/42 "2024-08-27T16:38:29Z")

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Genuine question: I have a skin condition that disinginuates longitudinal scalar fields caused by quantum photons. It causes the standing columnar wave to sit down. Can this device still help me balance my humours?

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2024, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/energy-enhancement-system-scalar-waves-is-this-legit/1006310/43 "2024-08-27T17:48:07Z")

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I predict the answer to that question would mirror “The Simpsons”:

**Comic Book Guy** “Will you be able to provide an IP router that’s compatible with my token-ring ethernet LAN configuration?”  
**Homer Simpson** “Can I have some money now?”

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2024, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/energy-enhancement-system-scalar-waves-is-this-legit/1006310/44 "2024-08-27T17:53:33Z")

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Haha! Excellent reference.

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2024, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/energy-enhancement-system-scalar-waves-is-this-legit/1006310/45 "2024-08-27T18:06:38Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> I didn’t say you should call delusional idiots delusional idiots to their faces. Simply stating that delusional idiots hold their delusions very tightly.

But it’s still damaging. Your lot, i.e. the subset of skeptics who think that “woo” is a funny and clever word, slap each other on the back and tell each other how smart _you_ are and how dumb _they_ are. When someone comes to the Straight Dope and asks “is XYZ real” they see your behaviour, and are offended by it. And then you point them to articles written by idiots which repeatedly say “woo” and “delusion”, and it isn’t likely to persuade them.

Nobody who says “woo” ever won. Please stop it.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2024, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/energy-enhancement-system-scalar-waves-is-this-legit/1006310/46 "2024-08-27T18:07:36Z")

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And instead, you would…?

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2024, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/energy-enhancement-system-scalar-waves-is-this-legit/1006310/47 "2024-08-27T18:09:22Z")

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> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> Please stop it.

[![](https://uploads.dailydot.com/2024/06/bugs-bunny-no.jpg) ](https://uploads.dailydot.com/2024/06/bugs-bunny-no.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Kron](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kron/32/12444_2.png) [@Kron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kron)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2024, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/energy-enhancement-system-scalar-waves-is-this-legit/1006310/48 "2024-08-27T18:35:15Z")

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> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> Nobody who says “woo” ever won. Please stop it.

Not a chance.

Not calling out woo for what it is is not going to solve anything; are you proposing somebody comes to the Dope (or any of the other major woo-debunkers) to find out if something is legitimate and, on being told that Magic X is pure woo, is then going to turn around and say “I was willing to be convinced, but now that you’ve called it ‘woo’, I’m going to sign over my paycheck to the guy you are calling a quack!”

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2024, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/energy-enhancement-system-scalar-waves-is-this-legit/1006310/49 "2024-08-27T18:39:11Z")

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Not only are people calling it “woo” here (and elsewhere), they are explaining _why_ it is woo.

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2024, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/energy-enhancement-system-scalar-waves-is-this-legit/1006310/50 "2024-08-27T18:52:34Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> This is a gold mine of bullshittery: “The Energy Enhancement SystemTM (EESystemTM) generates multiple bio-active life enhancing energy fields”.

Also, the self-described physicist author of that incredible testimonial (“There appears to be some form of inter-dimensional or high super scalar energy being generated, which when a person sits in a room with the EESystem technology running, their entire life force improves,”) is a kooky-even-by-kook standards [Trump supporter](https://truthsocial.com/@DrJackAShulman) whose Truth Social bio describes him as:

> _40 yrs. Executive Branch Director Of Classified Intelligence & Military Special Intelligence, National Security & CyberSecurity. Nuclear Physicist, Computer Scientist, Engineer and Bio Geneticist. Journalist and Business Developer. Resides in Maryland/DC and New Jersey. Jet Pilot, Chess Hobbiest, Armourer, Auto Racing (Porsche, Corvette and Shelby), Martial Artist. Advanced Systems, AI Software and Hardware Developer. Gene Sequencing, Forensics, Well rounded, well informed._

I mean, if you can’t trust that guy, who can you trust?

Stranger

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**Author:** ![Kron](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kron/32/12444_2.png) [@Kron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kron)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2024, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/energy-enhancement-system-scalar-waves-is-this-legit/1006310/51 "2024-08-27T18:54:11Z")

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Of all the chess hobbs, he is the hobbiest.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2024, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/energy-enhancement-system-scalar-waves-is-this-legit/1006310/52 "2024-08-27T18:54:46Z")

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There is a good Daily Beast article here:

> **[QAnon Conspiracy Theorists Have a New Cure-All: $120,000 TVs](https://www.thedailybeast.com/qanon-conspiracy-theorists-have-a-new-cure-all-dollar120000-tvs)**
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> For $120,000, you too can have these colored static screens that supposedly cure cancer in your living room.

(For me at least it is readable in a private/incognito tab.)

I found this Reddit page which doesn’t have anything of substance but has some entertainment value for the raving loon dominating the comments:

[https://www.reddit.com/r/DebunkThis/comments/1924hj5/debunk\_this\_the\_eesystem\_energy\_enhancement/](https://www.reddit.com/r/DebunkThis/comments/1924hj5/debunk_this_the_eesystem_energy_enhancement/)

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2024, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/energy-enhancement-system-scalar-waves-is-this-legit/1006310/53 "2024-08-27T18:56:51Z")

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They left out “Demi-God on Ceti Alpha 5”.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2024, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/energy-enhancement-system-scalar-waves-is-this-legit/1006310/54 "2024-08-27T18:58:00Z")

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Hey! I have one of those tvs and my living room is totally cancer-free!

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2024, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/energy-enhancement-system-scalar-waves-is-this-legit/1006310/55 "2024-08-27T19:29:41Z")

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The interesting thing about their website is that as far as I could tell nowhere do they make any claim about what this thing is actually supposed to do! This is certainly a novel approach to product promotion, and suggests that they probably got at least some rudimentary legal advice.

There is one provably false statement in the fine print, though, which is “Results may vary”. I’m pretty certain that results will **not** vary, and will be exactly the same for everyone.

The fine print goes on to say, essentially, “if you’re sick, you should probably see a doctor”. This advice, coming from a Director Of Classified Intelligence & Military Special Intelligence, National Security & CyberSecurit,. Nuclear Physicist, Computer Scientist, Engineer and Bio Geneticist, is probably sound. Although I suspect that this advice didn’t actually come from this talented individual, either, but from his lawyer.

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**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2024, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/energy-enhancement-system-scalar-waves-is-this-legit/1006310/56 "2024-08-27T19:44:19Z")

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> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> When someone comes to the Straight Dope and asks “is XYZ real” they see your behaviour, and are offended by it. And then you point them to articles written by idiots which repeatedly say “woo” and “delusion”, and it isn’t likely to persuade them.

just to be clear, I already was pretty sure this was bogus, but since I couldn’t tell what they were claimingi was happening (apparently neither can anyone else) I decided to ask.

there ARE things that can improve a lot of areas in your life but they tend to be “eat more vegetables” or “get regular exercise”, not sit inbetween banks of computer monitors.

I have not been offended at all, but I do have at least one person posting here on ignore so YMMV.

and Wolfpup is wrong, results do vary. I have spoken with a few people who have tried this and some have felt nothing. Some rave about it.

If any positive results are the placebo affect, that’s OK with me. People are free to pay for such a thing or not, after all.

If I can get a free trial I’ll report back. 😉

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**Post date:** [August 27, 2024, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/energy-enhancement-system-scalar-waves-is-this-legit/1006310/57 "2024-08-27T21:13:17Z")

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> [@JackieLikesVariety](#):
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> since I couldn’t tell what they were claimingi was happening

well, there you go right there

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**Post date:** [August 28, 2024, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/energy-enhancement-system-scalar-waves-is-this-legit/1006310/58 "2024-08-28T13:36:13Z")

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> [@Horatius](#):
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> Pretty much anything being advertised with the word “scalar” is a scam

Wait, wait, wait. There’s a popular and versatile finite element software package that added a facility for “scalar variables” after I proposed it to the developer. The package solves for field variables, which take on a different value for every point in space, and my idea was to provide similar solving ability for variables whose values are the same at all points. I included a sample problem demonstrating the purpose, and my sample problem became the teaching example in the fine manual. I’m very proud of this – it’s arguable the easiest way for the public to put one of my ideas to work.

“De-toxify”, yeah, that’s almost always a scam.

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2024, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/energy-enhancement-system-scalar-waves-is-this-legit/1006310/59 "2024-08-28T14:40:32Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Not only are people calling it “woo” here (and elsewhere), they are explaining _why_ it is woo.

Not in my experience, no. Those with actual knowledge, the ones who can explain why it is wrong, never use the word. The ones without knowledge use childish insults.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2024, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/energy-enhancement-system-scalar-waves-is-this-legit/1006310/60 "2024-08-28T14:45:05Z")

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> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> Not in my experience, no.

If you read this post (and many others you have participated in), you might gain that experience you claim to be missing.

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