# Energy Enhancement System, scalar waves - is this legit? **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [August 27, 2024, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/energy-enhancement-system-scalar-waves-is-this-legit/1006310 "2024-08-27T13:04:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2024, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/energy-enhancement-system-scalar-waves-is-this-legit/1006310/81 "2024-08-29T01:51:33Z")
So sorry that you lack options. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2024, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/energy-enhancement-system-scalar-waves-is-this-legit/1006310/82 "2024-08-29T02:45:13Z")
> [@SunUp](#): > > Is there a better definition? “I don’t know enough to actually challenge your claims, so I’ll use childish insults instead.” ---
**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2024, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/energy-enhancement-system-scalar-waves-is-this-legit/1006310/83 "2024-08-29T03:07:43Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > “I don’t know enough to actually challenge your claims, so I’ll use childish insults instead.” By your statement, “woo” is the childish insult, correct? I don’t see how you can consider that to be part of the definition of “woo”, but perhaps I’m just not up to your brilliance at definitions. ---
**Author:** ![bob\_2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bob_2/32/3341_2.png) [@bob\_2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bob_2)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2024, 8:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/energy-enhancement-system-scalar-waves-is-this-legit/1006310/84 "2024-08-29T08:30:55Z")
I suppose the important point here is whether it does any harm, apart from damaging one’s bank balance. ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2024, 8:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/energy-enhancement-system-scalar-waves-is-this-legit/1006310/85 "2024-08-29T08:50:08Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Black box technology featuring a scaled down, inverted, energy and space efficient version of our 4-unit EESystem creating a very effective and beautiful scalar photon fountain. So…a light fixture? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2024, 9:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/energy-enhancement-system-scalar-waves-is-this-legit/1006310/86 "2024-08-29T09:19:57Z")
Without the ability to examine it, at the very least it will suck a lot of money from the victims. ---
**Author:** ![DPRK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4491bb/32.png) [@DPRK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DPRK)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2024, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/energy-enhancement-system-scalar-waves-is-this-legit/1006310/87 "2024-08-29T14:01:40Z")
> [@bob\_2](#): > > I suppose the important point here is whether it does any harm, apart from damaging one’s bank balance. I remember an advert for a magical generator that will sit in your yard and power your home. To buy one, you had to send $400 as a pre-order earnest of payment. So these things do even less harm than homeopathic remedies, since in the latter case at least you get a glass of water. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2024, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/energy-enhancement-system-scalar-waves-is-this-legit/1006310/88 "2024-08-29T14:08:17Z")
> [@bob\_2](#): > > I suppose the important point here is whether it does any harm, apart from damaging one’s bank balance. If you are so convinced in its effectiveness that it kills you because you failed to get proper medical care, that might be seen as harm – or it might be seen as natural selection. ---
**Author:** ![DPRK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4491bb/32.png) [@DPRK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DPRK)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2024, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/energy-enhancement-system-scalar-waves-is-this-legit/1006310/89 "2024-08-29T14:14:31Z")
People can be fucking willfully stupid, but the guilt ultimately lies with the Elizabeth Holmes-types, so you can’t just write it off as natural selection. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2024, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/energy-enhancement-system-scalar-waves-is-this-legit/1006310/90 "2024-08-29T14:16:08Z")
Predation is a form of natural selection. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2024, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/energy-enhancement-system-scalar-waves-is-this-legit/1006310/91 "2024-08-29T18:15:11Z")
I took a look at their “About Us” page [About Us | Energy Enhancement System™ (eesystem.com)](https://eesystem.com/about-us/) and, while it is fixed to make cut-and-pasting next to impossible, it is not hard to ascertain that these are the Kings And Queens Of Woo. Did you know that Doctor Sandra Rose Michael is a “Dame Commander Of The Order of St. John in the Orthodox Knights Hospitaller tradition and is the Minister Of Health for the Republic of New Lemuria”? There is similar fantastic B.S. for the others…except for the Director Of Operations himself, Michael Bertolacini. There is no picture for this amazing man, and all it says about him is “The Enigma that is the keeper of all things technical and logistical”. Here are a few things about the company that do _not_ come from their website: [Ripoff Report | Sandra Rose Michaels Review - Las Vegas, Nevada](https://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/sandra-rose-michaels/las-vegas-nevada-89183/sandra-rose-michaels-energy-enhancement-systemmichael-bertolacinimela-bertolacini-i-put-1383619) [Ripoff Report | EEsystem Review - , Internet - Eesystem eesystemcom](https://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/eesystem/internet/eesystem-eesystemcom-sandra-rose-michael-scalar-system-michael-bertolacini-scalar-scam-921241) [Energy Enhancement System Reviews | eesystem.com @ PissedConsumer](https://energy-enhancement-system.pissedconsumer.com/review.html) ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2024, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/energy-enhancement-system-scalar-waves-is-this-legit/1006310/92 "2024-08-29T18:45:48Z")
From the _Daily Beast_ article I linked earlier: > But perhaps no one has been as helpful to EE System as New Age internet personality Jason Shurka, who has more than 120,000 YouTube followers. This spring, Shurka interviewed Michael and introduced her as a representative of “The Light System,” a 1,000-year-old covert network of do-gooders, not all of them human. > > That’s high praise from Shurka, who has billed himself as another representative of that underground club. In the interview, Shurka claimed the benevolent forces at The Light System had deputized Michael to promote the EE System as part of their plan to save the world. Michael responded with some far-out theorizing of her own, claiming that shadowy forces had tried to assassinate her multiple times to stop her from spreading the technology. (Michael’s company didn’t provide The Daily Beast with any evidence of the death plots). ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2024, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/energy-enhancement-system-scalar-waves-is-this-legit/1006310/93 "2024-08-29T19:45:00Z")
> [@JackieLikesVariety](#): > > but I do want to understand what is physically happening. You are asking how it works, but they tell you: > [@running\_coach](#): > > ### Price: $14,995 > > Black box technology featuring a scaled down, inverted, energy and space efficient version of our 4-unit EESystem creating a very effective and beautiful scalar photon fountain “Black Box technology” means “we don’t know how it works”. And, unless you have strong evidence to show they got the technology off a literal space alien or a trans dimensional civilization that lived on Antarctica 100 million years ago, it also means “bullshit”. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2024, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/energy-enhancement-system-scalar-waves-is-this-legit/1006310/94 "2024-08-29T20:01:05Z")
> [@JackieLikesVariety](#): > > but I do want to understand what is physically happening They have this to say: > [@](#): > > You may not have heard of Scalar fields, but they are well known in astrophysics, geology, and hydrodynamics. > > A Scalar field is known as a fifth-dimensional non-linear field. Scalar fields exist out of relative time and space, thus they do not decay over time or distance from their source. They are unbounded and capable of passing through solid matter. > > The human body has crystalline structures in every cell wall that are capable of holding a charge. When the human body enters a Scalar field the electro magnetic field of the individual becomes excited. EESystem uses Scalar technology to return the body to a more original and appropriate electrical matrix. Which, even if it made any sense, still sounds like bullshit. “Non-linear” when used this way is nonsensical. ---
**Author:** ![engineer\_comp\_geek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/engineer_comp_geek/32/504_2.png) [@engineer\_comp\_geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/engineer_comp_geek)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2024, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/energy-enhancement-system-scalar-waves-is-this-legit/1006310/95 "2024-08-30T00:04:32Z")
**Moderator Note** > [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > “I don’t know enough to actually challenge your claims, so I’ll use childish insults instead.” > [@SunUp](#): > > By your statement, “woo” is the childish insult, correct? I don’t see how you can consider that to be part of the definition of “woo”, but perhaps I’m just not up to your brilliance at definitions. If you two want to have a go at each other, you know where the Pit is. In this forum, focus on the topic, and not on each other. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2024, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/energy-enhancement-system-scalar-waves-is-this-legit/1006310/96 "2024-08-30T00:39:21Z")
> [@JackieLikesVariety](#): > > At work, I see the person who owns the local place using this system and I have no desire to debunk whatever their claims are, but I do want to understand what is physically happening. The Daily Beast article linked upthread provides a decent rundown. I’ll repost: > **[QAnon Conspiracy Theorists Have a New Cure-All: $120,000 TVs](https://www.thedailybeast.com/qanon-conspiracy-theorists-have-a-new-cure-all-dollar120000-tvs)** > > For $120,000, you too can have these colored static screens that supposedly cure cancer in your living room. It appears to consist of a set of 4-48 flat-screen monitors displaying a light-show: > To the uninitiated, an EE System device looks just like a couple of computer monitors playing colored static. … > In 2012, Michael became embroiled in a lawsuit with acupuncturist Michael Kaufmann, who began distributing a product similar to the EE System… > In Religa’s telling, the device that Michael found so similar to her own wasn’t based on any kind of wave technology. Instead, it was just a computer program that generated different kinds of colored static screens—a sort of color therapy, at best, but nothing that could cure leukemia. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2024, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/energy-enhancement-system-scalar-waves-is-this-legit/1006310/97 "2024-08-30T00:45:19Z")
And they are ordinary LCD monitors bought at Best Buy. Basically, the treatment is a 1990s screen saver. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2024, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/energy-enhancement-system-scalar-waves-is-this-legit/1006310/98 "2024-08-31T00:15:10Z")
do not unmute this [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/O4XS8fGjwOk/maxresdefault.jpg "Energy Enhancement (EE) System - Scalar + 528hz Crystal Singing Bowl Chakra cleanse") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4XS8fGjwOk) ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2024, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/energy-enhancement-system-scalar-waves-is-this-legit/1006310/99 "2024-08-31T00:43:41Z")
That’s more like a 1980s [demo](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demoscene). ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2024, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/energy-enhancement-system-scalar-waves-is-this-legit/1006310/100 "2024-08-31T01:44:15Z")
[Here is the](https://www.sentientlight.com/articles/what-is-medbed-technology) Q-ish weirdness I was trying to remember. Textbook BTWB (baffle them with bullshit). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/energy-enhancement-system-scalar-waves-is-this-legit/1006310.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/energy-enhancement-system-scalar-waves-is-this-legit/1006310.md?page=6)