# Engineer\_comp\_geek needs to brush up on his moderating skills **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [March 23, 2021, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/engineer-comp-geek-needs-to-brush-up-on-his-moderating-skills/938467 "2021-03-23T00:22:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2021, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/engineer-comp-geek-needs-to-brush-up-on-his-moderating-skills/938467/21 "2021-03-23T15:08:19Z")
> [@Princhester](#): > > Look at the shit some of you are coming up to justify the warning - he posted to “get a reaction”. He was “gameplaying”. His post was a “practical joke”? None of these things are a problem around here, as such, last I checked. Check again. Those are all synonyms for “posting in bad faith”. > [@RitterSport](#): > > People get frustrated if they respond in good faith to a question not posed in good faith. This. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2021, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/engineer-comp-geek-needs-to-brush-up-on-his-moderating-skills/938467/22 "2021-03-23T15:10:01Z")
Do we have a link to the warning? ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2021, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/engineer-comp-geek-needs-to-brush-up-on-his-moderating-skills/938467/23 "2021-03-23T15:14:04Z")
[The Warning.](https://www.thewarningband.com/) ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2021, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/engineer-comp-geek-needs-to-brush-up-on-his-moderating-skills/938467/24 "2021-03-23T17:48:02Z")
> [@Princhester](#): > > Is that how much of walled garden for milksops this place has become? I think that “Walled garden for milksops” should be our new slogan. And yes, I thought the OP had openly admitted _blatant_ trolling even before it was modded. ---
**Author:** ![engineer\_comp\_geek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/engineer_comp_geek/32/504_2.png) [@engineer\_comp\_geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/engineer_comp_geek)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2021, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/engineer-comp-geek-needs-to-brush-up-on-his-moderating-skills/938467/25 "2021-03-23T17:48:36Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > The Warning Funny. Here’s the actual link. > [@Video possibly showing Reptilian eyes](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/video-possibly-showing-reptilian-eyes/938348/32): > > Moderator Warning The only thing that you have succeeded with here is to receive an official warning for trolling. If you want to make insincere posts just to see the reactions and promote some sort of reptilian nonsense, do it somewhere else. The SDMB is about fighting ignorance, not promoting it. This is an official warning for trolling. Thread closed. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2021, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/engineer-comp-geek-needs-to-brush-up-on-his-moderating-skills/938467/26 "2021-03-23T18:08:52Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > I think that “Walled garden for milksops” should be our new slogan. What I find most intriguing is why someone who thinks this is a walled garden for milksops would spend any time here at all. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2021, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/engineer-comp-geek-needs-to-brush-up-on-his-moderating-skills/938467/27 "2021-03-23T18:10:02Z")
Let’s say I’m making cereal, and I find that I’m out of milk. Well, a stroll over to the garden, a quick squeeze of the sop, and I’m in Alphabits-land! ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2021, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/engineer-comp-geek-needs-to-brush-up-on-his-moderating-skills/938467/28 "2021-03-23T18:28:55Z")
If we are a walled in garden for milksops, we’ve been one for over 20 years now. The sort of misrepresentation that the OP engaged in has always been against the rules, here. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2021, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/engineer-comp-geek-needs-to-brush-up-on-his-moderating-skills/938467/29 "2021-03-23T18:35:03Z")
@Princhester: Admitting that your post was disingenuous has been considered trolling for as long as I’ve been here–and that’s been over a decade. Wally got banned. umkay got banned. Someone with a name related to the numbers six or seven got banned (I can’t remember). If we were milksops here, then your post, with its clear insulting language for anyone who could possibly disagree with you, would be moderated. But, egc has said in the past, he lets people vent a bit in ATMB, as long as it doesn’t get to Pit levels. The people who are upset may have a point. Unfortunately, I don’t think you do. We all know that the rules are the start, not the end of how moderation is done here. The most you might be able to advocate for is making this rule that has existed forever more explicit. Though I do seem to remember reading something that said not to engage in trickery to “make a point.” Granted, that might have been on another forum. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2021, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/engineer-comp-geek-needs-to-brush-up-on-his-moderating-skills/938467/30 "2021-03-23T19:54:46Z")
> [@Princhester](#): > > Why is it necessary to issue an actual warning - a step towards banning - One warning does not lead to banning. The mods take into account a poster’s history of behavior. A person who has one or two warnings, but otherwise is a decent poster most of the time doesn’t have to worry. The people who do get banned might rack up a large number of warnings in a short period of time, and it often takes a few suspensions before someone is eventually banned. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2021, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/engineer-comp-geek-needs-to-brush-up-on-his-moderating-skills/938467/31 "2021-03-23T20:46:51Z")
> [@Princhester](#): > > Why is it necessary to issue an actual warning - a step towards banning - that (a) simply does not offend the trolling rule as worded and (b) if it falls under the catch-all of “being a jerk” is so mild no one could reasonably be upset or “riled up”? It’s a step towards banning in the same way a speeding ticket is a step towards having your license revoked. It’s on your record, sure, but unless you have a lot, or more serious violations, all in a _relatively_ short time, it is just that, a note on your record. And btw, I’m disgusted, not offended, in that as I stated earlier, he creates a thread in bad faith, while others try to respond in good faith, and uses that as evidence that there is no ‘good’ answer to an outlandish Conspiracy Theory. I am offended that you just described all of us who find bad faith posts as “needing to toughen up, princess.” That was a personal insult for having intellectual honesty. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2021, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/engineer-comp-geek-needs-to-brush-up-on-his-moderating-skills/938467/32 "2021-03-23T21:01:32Z")
It’s a shame that the thread was closed, because there is a link to a really cool Hawkwind song there. I mean, it’s still there, but will be falling off the page, and I know you guys LOVED that song!! ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2021, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/engineer-comp-geek-needs-to-brush-up-on-his-moderating-skills/938467/33 "2021-03-23T21:13:26Z")
> [@Princhester](#): > > hy is it necessary to issue an actual warning - a step towards banning - Being a jerk is a step towards banning. The warning just means that the mods are acknowledging your behavior. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2021, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/engineer-comp-geek-needs-to-brush-up-on-his-moderating-skills/938467/34 "2021-04-02T05:03:44Z")
> [@Princhester](#): > > Is that how much of walled garden for milksops this place has become? If you want to play hard ball, the Pit beckons - milksop free. > [@kayaker](#): > > The Warning. Psst - Rick would like a word. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2021, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/engineer-comp-geek-needs-to-brush-up-on-his-moderating-skills/938467/35 "2021-04-02T15:35:42Z")
Yeah, we have rules against Rick rolls, but he got a commendation instead. 🤪 ---
**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 7:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/engineer-comp-geek-needs-to-brush-up-on-his-moderating-skills/938467/36 "2021-04-03T07:36:23Z")
> [@cochrane](#): > > One warning does not lead to banning. The mods take into account a poster’s history of behavior. A person who has one or two warnings, but otherwise is a decent poster most of the time doesn’t have to worry. The people who do get banned might rack up a large number of warnings in a short period of time, and it often takes a few suspensions before someone is eventually banned. That seems a silly justification. Like if a baseball player gets a strike called on him on a pitch a foot outside. Would you say that as he has two other strikes before he is called out, he has nothing to complain about? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 7:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/engineer-comp-geek-needs-to-brush-up-on-his-moderating-skills/938467/37 "2021-04-03T07:59:53Z")
> [@UltraVires](#): > > Would you say that as he has two other strikes before he is called out, he has nothing to complain about? Since every strike is his own fault, then I would definitely say it is his own fault. As analogies go, that one really struck out. ---
**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 8:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/engineer-comp-geek-needs-to-brush-up-on-his-moderating-skills/938467/38 "2021-04-03T08:04:23Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Since every strike is his own fault, then I would definitely say it is his own fault. As analogies go, that one really struck out. I was responding to the idea that even if it wasn’t his fault, it is merely a simple warning and not a banning. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 11:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/engineer-comp-geek-needs-to-brush-up-on-his-moderating-skills/938467/39 "2021-04-03T11:30:18Z")
> [@UltraVires](#): > > > [@cochrane](#): > > > > One warning does not lead to banning. The mods take into account a poster’s history of behavior. A person who has one or two warnings, but otherwise is a decent poster most of the time doesn’t have to worry. The people who do get banned might rack up a large number of warnings in a short period of time, and it often takes a few suspensions before someone is eventually banned. > > That seems a silly justification. Like if a baseball player gets a strike called on him on a pitch a foot outside. Would you say that as he has two other strikes before he is called out, he has nothing to complain about? No, as I believe **engineer\_comp\_geek’s** justification for the warning. So **Bootb** swung and missed instead of being a victim of a bad call. ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/engineer-comp-geek-needs-to-brush-up-on-his-moderating-skills/938467/40 "2021-04-03T15:44:36Z")
I think the broader point you’re making (and what UV seems to be missing) is, if it is true that a warning was borderline questionable, that may yet be considered in the outcome as the rule here is not “three strikes and you’re out,” but “out when you can’t be tolerated anymore” or words to that effect. So it’d be like if the umpire called something questionable a strike, but then on the third strike their mental math said “strike two and a half…” and the batter got another chance. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/engineer-comp-geek-needs-to-brush-up-on-his-moderating-skills/938467.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/engineer-comp-geek-needs-to-brush-up-on-his-moderating-skills/938467.md?page=3)