# English Premier League and Football in General

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/english-premier-league-and-football-in-general/287867>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [February 1, 2005, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/english-premier-league-and-football-in-general/287867 "2005-02-01T22:49:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![owlstretchingtime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/958977/32.png) [@owlstretchingtime](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/owlstretchingtime)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2005, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/english-premier-league-and-football-in-general/287867/301 "2005-03-01T12:56:05Z")

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Naaarch look doomed - even with Delia’s rabble rousing - losing a two goal lead is pretty dreadful.

In other news Jermane Pennant’s been sent down for three months. Gotta love those gooners (I think they have their own wing at Pentonville)!

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2005, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/english-premier-league-and-football-in-general/287867/302 "2005-03-01T13:13:54Z")

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Watched Man City at Norwich last night. Man City looked totally at sea for the first 20 minutes, then had their moments. Beautiful goal by Ashton though.

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**Author:** ![owlstretchingtime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/958977/32.png) [@owlstretchingtime](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/owlstretchingtime)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2005, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/english-premier-league-and-football-in-general/287867/303 "2005-03-01T14:59:38Z")

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More footie related court reports: Royston “d’ya like dags” Keane acquitted of chav-on-chav violence - aparrently the ned in question deserved it.

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2005, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/english-premier-league-and-football-in-general/287867/304 "2005-03-01T15:57:42Z")

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chav?

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**Author:** ![owlstretchingtime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/958977/32.png) [@owlstretchingtime](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/owlstretchingtime)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2005, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/english-premier-league-and-football-in-general/287867/305 "2005-03-01T17:35:15Z")

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Chav = low class person - dole mole council ASBO scum and their pram-faced bints…(think Wayne Rooney without any money)

More explaination here:

[http://chavscum.com/](http://chavscum.com/)

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**Author:** ![Legolamb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4491bb/32.png) [@Legolamb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Legolamb)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2005, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/english-premier-league-and-football-in-general/287867/306 "2005-03-01T18:31:37Z")

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> [@owlstretchingtime](#):
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> Chav = low class person - dole mole council ASBO scum and their pram-faced bints…(think Wayne Rooney without any money)

Just because Rooney has money doesn’t make him (or his girlfriend for that matter) any less of a Chav. They’re still scum, just scum with nice cars and even more Burberry than the average Chav.

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2005, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/english-premier-league-and-football-in-general/287867/307 "2005-03-01T18:34:17Z")

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Heh, and to think we supposedly speak the same language.

Great article about the lack of sympathy for ManU supporters on the possible Glazer buy…[here](http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,8305-1295992,00.html)

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2005, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/english-premier-league-and-football-in-general/287867/308 "2005-03-01T19:10:23Z")

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Someone please help me: What did Delia Smith do that was so scandalous?

"Where are you? Where are you? Let’s be having you. Come on.’’

Does “Let’s be having you?” mean something…interesting? I don’t get all the fuss.

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**Author:** ![Busy\_Scissors](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d78d45/32.png) [@Busy\_Scissors](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Busy_Scissors)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2005, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/english-premier-league-and-football-in-general/287867/309 "2005-03-01T21:35:02Z")

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> [@Gangster Octopus](#):
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> Someone please help me: What did Delia Smith do that was so scandalous?
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> "Where are you? Where are you? Let’s be having you. Come on.’’
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> Does “Let’s be having you?” mean something…interesting? I don’t get all the fuss.

Nothing scandalous, but it was pretty funny. A clearly tired and emotional Delia staggering onto the pitch at halftime, mic in hand, yelling at the Norwich supporters to get behind the team.  
[BBC report here](http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/n/norwich/4307661.stm)

Everton’s chairman is a guy called Bill Kenwright, and he is a phenomenal tit. But Delia is just in a different league.

Man, what can you say about Jermaine Pennant? Apparently the guy has “intermittent” literacy skills. I guess that would explain wrapping his car around a lamp-post whilst attempting to operate a sat-nav system. :smack:

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**Author:** ![owlstretchingtime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/958977/32.png) [@owlstretchingtime](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/owlstretchingtime)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2005, 10:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/english-premier-league-and-football-in-general/287867/310 "2005-03-02T10:55:58Z")

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"Delia’sh by besht mate. She’sh lovely. You’re all a bunch of bashtards for picking on a shweet schweet old girl. _hic_ "

Top class behaviour from the girl Smith there. It’s actually illegal to be drunk in a football stadium (although I couldn’t counternance watching Spurs sober).

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**Author:** ![roger\_thornhill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d9b06d/32.png) [@roger\_thornhill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/roger_thornhill)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2005, 11:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/english-premier-league-and-football-in-general/287867/311 "2005-03-02T11:03:53Z")

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I fell asleep about 15 minutes into the second half watching Spurs on Saturday (it was on quite late here) - watched the highlights the next day and felt robbed. How many of those four strikers will the club be able (want) to hold onto? I think you mentioned Keane was on the way out (story of his life). Will Jol be tempted by Ajax? Can’t see why, unless they offer ridiculous wedge.

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**Author:** ![garius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e19b73/32.png) [@garius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garius)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2005, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/english-premier-league-and-football-in-general/287867/312 "2005-03-02T11:05:04Z")

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Fucking hell - we actually won a penalty shoot out. That’s not very Arsenal…

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**Author:** ![roger\_thornhill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d9b06d/32.png) [@roger\_thornhill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/roger_thornhill)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2005, 11:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/english-premier-league-and-football-in-general/287867/313 "2005-03-02T11:09:40Z")

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Good to see all three Premier sides progress. Do others here like old 'Arry Redknapp as much as I do? He comes out with some priceless stuff.

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**Author:** ![garius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e19b73/32.png) [@garius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garius)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2005, 11:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/english-premier-league-and-football-in-general/287867/314 "2005-03-02T11:12:54Z")

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Harry is great - one of my favourite managers.

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2005, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/english-premier-league-and-football-in-general/287867/315 "2005-03-02T12:14:17Z")

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> [@garius](#):
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> Fucking hell - we actually won a penalty shoot out. That’s not very Arsenal…

Hey, I was actually watching this last night. FSC has all of the matches set up in two hour blocks, so at the end of regulation I went into the kitchen to fix some food, wondering, “How are they going to handle this?” When I came back in from the kitchen they’d already come back from break and shown just the winning penalty, I suppse. That was it. None of the extra time, and I don’t believe they even showed all of the penalty kicks. Tough break for Sheffield who played a spirited game on defense. Nice save by James on that header toward the end of reg.

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**Author:** ![owlstretchingtime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/958977/32.png) [@owlstretchingtime](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/owlstretchingtime)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2005, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/english-premier-league-and-football-in-general/287867/316 "2005-03-02T13:01:34Z")

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> [@roger thornhill](#):
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> I fell asleep about 15 minutes into the second half watching Spurs on Saturday (it was on quite late here) - watched the highlights the next day and felt robbed. How many of those four strikers will the club be able (want) to hold onto? I think you mentioned Keane was on the way out (story of his life). Will Jol be tempted by Ajax? Can’t see why, unless they offer ridiculous wedge.

You didn’t have to watch the first 75 minutes in the freezing cold! Not sure what the plan is for the strikers. Bear in mind two of them are african (well sort of) and so we may lose both to some tin-pot cup. Also Mido is only on loan - and if he keeps playing as well as he has we may find that we have problems haning onto him.

As for Jol: The only realistic reason he’s take the Ajax job is for sentimental reasons. Ajax are basically a Dutch version of Celtic - guarenteed CL football but god-awful once they get there. We have more money than them, so cash isn’t an issue, and also he has a more or less free hand at THFC, which he probably wouldn’t get at Ajax. So I hope he’ll stick with the Yids rather than go to the Joden.

Incidentally his brother is also a fine coach - but is reluctant to come to England to work. He is called Cock Jol. That’s why.

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**Author:** ![roger\_thornhill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d9b06d/32.png) [@roger\_thornhill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/roger_thornhill)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2005, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/english-premier-league-and-football-in-general/287867/317 "2005-03-03T02:10:11Z")

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[QUOTE=owlstretchingtime]  
So I hope he’ll stick with the Yids rather than go to the Joden.[

[QUOTE]

He sounds like a regular Oskar Schindler!

> [@](#):
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> Incidentally his brother is also a fine coach - but is reluctant to come to England to work. He is called Cock Jol. That’s why.

Then he should come to China. It’s the Year of the Rooster after all.

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**Author:** ![owlstretchingtime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/958977/32.png) [@owlstretchingtime](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/owlstretchingtime)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2005, 10:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/english-premier-league-and-football-in-general/287867/318 "2005-03-03T10:14:32Z")

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> [@roger thornhill](#):
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> It’s the Year of the Rooster after all.

Hopefully of the cockerel as well! Last night was a fairly easy game after a frantic statrt. It had all the ingredients for an upset - Depleted Team for favourites, freezing cold, snowing, pitch like Hackney Marshes…

I watched in the pub and got completely Deliah’d. So I am typing this very quietly.

According to people I know who went, at half time they played a song which was Deliah’s rant mixed into a techno tune. Good work Forest!

I should imagine that Chas n Dave are tuning up now.

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2005, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/english-premier-league-and-football-in-general/287867/319 "2005-03-03T12:18:15Z")

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> [@owlstretchingtime](#):
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> Hopefully of the cockerel as well! Last night was a fairly easy game after a frantic statrt. It had all the ingredients for an upset - Depleted Team for favourites, freezing cold, snowing, pitch like Hackney Marshes…
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> I watched in the pub and got completely Deliah’d. So I am typing this very quietly.
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> According to people I know who went, at half time they played a song which was Deliah’s rant mixed into a techno tune. Good work Forest!

Was there any grass on that field at all?

Please explain re “Deliah”.

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**Author:** ![roger\_thornhill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d9b06d/32.png) [@roger\_thornhill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/roger_thornhill)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2005, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/english-premier-league-and-football-in-general/287867/320 "2005-03-03T12:45:57Z")

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> [@owlstretchingtime](#):
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> Hopefully of the cockerel as well!

I hadn’t thought of that - how crass I am! Unless you were referring to Glen Cockerell.

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