# English word with the most unique etymology?

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**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\
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> but perhaps the word you’re looking for is parka. It’s etymology is Nenets\>Russian\>Aleut\>English. As far as I know, it’s the only English word from both Nenets and Aleut.

Again, I’m not trying to be difficult. What is the “Nenets” word that went into Russsian?

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> \*Originally posted by Colibri \*  
> \*\*Palindrome. \*\*

And if you like to use them frequently, you’d be called a “[ciloholic]([Ross Mackenzie: Biography and Latest Articles](http://www.townhall.com/columnists/rossmackenzie/) rm20020110.shtml).” (a person addicted to palindromes!)

Note: I originally read the term in my _Ripley’s Believe It Or Not: Encyclopedia of the Bizarre_, but thought I’d include a web link anyhow. 🙂

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Plan no damn Madonna LP.  
Sex-aware era waxes.  
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Lisa Bonet ate no basil.  
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He did, eh?  
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_I Love Me_, vol. I  
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Some men interpret nine memos.  
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Egad! A base tone denotes a bad age.

And finally: there’s a town called Yreka near the Bathroom Readers’ Institute in Ashland, OR. You can buy bread at the **Yreka Bakery.**.

F\_X

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**Post date:** [August 30, 2003, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/english-word-with-the-most-unique-etymology/198334/43 "2003-08-30T04:17:47Z")

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> \*Originally posted by samclem \*  
> Again, I’m not trying to be difficult. What is the “Nenets” word that went into Russsian?

It was right there in the quote you cited.

From MWO

Main Entry: par·ka  
Pronunciation: 'pär-k&  
Function: noun  
Etymology: Aleut, from Russian dialect, ultimately from Nenets (Samoyedic language of northern Russia)  
Date: 1780  
1 : a hooded fur pullover garment for arctic wear  
2 : a usually lined fabric outerwear pullover or jacket

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**Post date:** [August 30, 2003, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/english-word-with-the-most-unique-etymology/198334/44 "2003-08-30T05:19:06Z")

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I’d throw out _googol_ as having the “most unique” etymology.

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**Post date:** [August 30, 2003, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/english-word-with-the-most-unique-etymology/198334/45 "2003-08-30T05:56:42Z")

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“Son, I am able,” she said, “though you scare me.” “Watch,” said I, “beloved, I said watch me scare you though.” Said she, “Able am I, son.”

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**Post date:** [August 30, 2003, 7:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/english-word-with-the-most-unique-etymology/198334/46 "2003-08-30T07:37:31Z")

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I have heard that the word ‘hoodlum’ comes from someone who misspelled, and then reversed the name ‘Muldoon’.

Unfortunately, the only cite I can find on the 'net says that’s bogus. Another site says that in the 1870s, newspapers in San Francisco (where the word originated) came up with some very fanciful stories to explain its origin.

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**Post date:** [August 30, 2003, 7:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/english-word-with-the-most-unique-etymology/198334/47 "2003-08-30T07:48:52Z")

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> \*Originally posted by syncrolecyne \*  
> **While not strictly English etymology, I find it interesting that the words “charity” and “whore” come from the same Indo-European root.**

[ul]:rolleyes: [sup] **Any possible connection to the term “Charity begins at home”?** [/sup][/ul]

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**Post date:** [August 30, 2003, 10:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/english-word-with-the-most-unique-etymology/198334/48 "2003-08-30T10:10:27Z")

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> \*Originally posted by samclem \*  
> \*\ ***jjimm** said  
> It’s justs as you suspected, a coincidence. It didn’t come from the French either. \*\*

Hmm, [dictionary.com](http://dictionary.com) gives this etymology a “[possibly](http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=penguin)”:

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> Possibly from Welsh pen gwyn, White Head (name of an island in Newfoundland), great auk : pen, chief, head + gwynn, white; see weid- in Indo-European Roots

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**Post date:** [August 30, 2003, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/english-word-with-the-most-unique-etymology/198334/49 "2003-08-30T18:56:49Z")

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> \*Originally posted by syncrolecyne \*  
> \*\*While not strictly English etymology, I find it interesting that the words “charity” and “whore” come from the same Indo-European root.  
> [Whore Definition & Meaning | Dictionary.com](http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=whore) \*\*

I like that. It’s also interesting that “science” and “shit” have the same Indo-European root. 🙂

[http://www.bartleby.com/61/roots/IE464.html](http://www.bartleby.com/61/roots/IE464.html)

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> \*Originally posted by syncrolecyne \*  
> \*\*While not strictly English etymology, I find it interesting that the words “charity” and “whore” come from the same Indo-European root.  
> [http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=whore](http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=whore) \*\*

Also interesting is that “science” and “shit” have the same Indo-European root.

[http://www.bartleby.com/61/roots/IE464.html](http://www.bartleby.com/61/roots/IE464.html)

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Sorry, my first response ended with a page expiration, so I thought that it hadn’t posted.

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> Also interesting is that “science” and “shit” have the same Indo-European root.

That is actually pretty easy to believe. The motto of the cafeteria at my Catholic prep school was “He knows the faith” which, rendered in Latin was _Fidem scit_.

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I like astonish - it comes from roots meaning, “To be struck by lightning.”

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I was reading something a while ago about words exchanged between languages that are writen in different directions (E.G. between arabic, written right to left, and hebrew, written left to right) having their letter order reversed. Unfortunately I can’t remember any sets of examples (Knesset was half on one) or find the page…

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**Post date:** [September 1, 2003, 12:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/english-word-with-the-most-unique-etymology/198334/55 "2003-09-01T12:03:07Z")

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> Re sine, my Oxford Canadian says that it comes from the word sinus meaning a fold in a toga.

I just learned that “sine” may have an even more interesting etymology. I picked up the third collcted volume of Larry Gonick’s **The Cartoon History of the UNiverse** (It came out in 2002, but I hadn’t seen or heard of it until now! Why doesn’t anybody notice thes things? _Highly_ recomended!) In a footnote on page 41 he notes:

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> Many of these “arabic” wrds themselves originally came from somewhere else. For example, the word “sine” in rigonometry, according to many histories, comes from an arabic word meaning “bay”. But the sine has nothing to do with a bay. In fact, the Arabs just copied the word “sine” from Hindu geometry, where it came from a Sanskrit word meaning “bowstring”.
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> Source: A cartoon history of math published in India!

The significance of “bwstring” becomes obvious when you look at his picture (the footnotes are in comic form, too). He has the definition of “sine” as usually given in math, except that it’s comparing the length of a chord to a section of an arc, and the arc looks like the bow, wih the chord – the sine – being the bowstring.

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