# English words with silent letters

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [November 7, 2022, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/english-words-with-silent-letters/974486 "2022-11-07T01:28:41Z")\
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Technically a proper name - the first “r” in “Worcestershire” (sauce).

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> [@gkster](#):
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> > [@Max\_S](#):
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> > ‘p’ pterodactyl
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> And ptarmigan too  
> In one of Patrick O’Brian’s Aubrey-Maturin books, Jack Aubrey, intending to refer to his mother-in-law a termagant, says she’s a ptarmigan.

I don’t believe there are _any_ words that start with pt where the p is pronounced.

Ptosis, ptomaine, ptisan, pterin…I’m sure there are others.

Except, perhaps, _ptooey_. 🙂

mmm

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> [@AHunter3](#):
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> o opossum

I always assumed that if you spelled it with an o, you’d pronounce the o, but it appears that [some people do in fact consider the o silent](https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/possum-vs-opossum-difference-pronunciation).

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> ## How to Pronounce ‘Opossum’
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> To make things even more confusing, some people say you should spell it _opossum_ but pronounce it without that first syllable; our pronunciation guidance at the entry for _opossum_ recognizes this by putting that first syllable in parentheses: (ə-)ˈpä-səm. You can, indeed, write _opossum_ and say it like “possum” and be using an officially recognized pronunciation.

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> [@Hari\_Seldon](#):
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> m ?

I thought of this because of the movie, “Johnny Mnemonic”

mne·mon·ic

/nəˈmänik/

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**Post date:** [November 7, 2022, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/english-words-with-silent-letters/974486/25 "2022-11-07T12:49:13Z")

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> [@Jasmine](#):
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> I thought of this because of the movie, “Johnny Mnemonic”
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> mne·mon·ic
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> /nəˈmänik/

That’s one that I keep forgetting.

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A Roger Moore movie: “ffolkes.”

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Ctenophore and cnidarian are fun biology class examples for a silent C.

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**Post date:** [November 8, 2022, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/english-words-with-silent-letters/974486/28 "2022-11-08T01:14:18Z")

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Lot’s of good answers here. I especially liked pterodactyl.

But no silent v. I guess Jim was right. Jim’s real name was Joachim, but always called himself Jim so I guess the oach was silent.

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**Post date:** [November 8, 2022, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/english-words-with-silent-letters/974486/29 "2022-11-08T01:32:05Z")

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Lots and lots of silent letters in “forecastle”.

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**Post date:** [November 8, 2022, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/english-words-with-silent-letters/974486/30 "2022-11-08T02:21:33Z")

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Almost as many in “botswain.”

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**Post date:** [November 8, 2022, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/english-words-with-silent-letters/974486/31 "2022-11-08T06:41:30Z")

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Not only are there no silent Vs, but AFICT, there’s only one instance where there’s a V-sound which is not spelled with a V. That occurs in one of the most common words in English: **of**.

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I pronounce it as spelled.

My friend - a tall ship sailor - pronounces it the pirate way: fo’c’sle

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**Post date:** [November 8, 2022, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/english-words-with-silent-letters/974486/33 "2022-11-08T16:36:01Z")

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> [@Hari\_Seldon](#):
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> But no silent v. I guess Jim was right. Jim’s real name was Joachim, but always called himself Jim so I guess the oach was silent. ⁢

The best I can do is the word “voila,” which apparently a lot of people pronounce with a silent V–hence spelling it “walla” or similar.

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> [@BigT](#):
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> The best I can do is the word “voila,” which apparently a lot of people pronounce with a silent V–hence spelling it “walla” or similar.

That’s not really a silent V. Just pronouncing the V as /w/ instead of /v/. It’s much the same as many words spelled with an S where that letter is pronounced /z/ instead of /s/.

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**Post date:** [November 8, 2022, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/english-words-with-silent-letters/974486/35 "2022-11-08T19:14:53Z")

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> [@dtilque](#):
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> > [@BigT](#):
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> > The best I can do is the word “voila,” which apparently a lot of people pronounce with a silent V–hence spelling it “walla” or similar. ⁢
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> That’s not really a silent V. Just pronouncing the V as /w/ instead of /v/. It’s much the same as many words spelled with an S where that letter is pronounced /z/ instead of /s/. ⁢

I disagree. The word “voila” comes from French, and in French “oi” makes a “wah” sound (e.g. _au revoir_). So the /w/ is already in the word.

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**Post date:** [November 8, 2022, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/english-words-with-silent-letters/974486/36 "2022-11-08T20:17:06Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> The word “voila” comes from French, and in French “oi” makes a “wah” sound (e.g. _au revoir_). So the /w/ is already in the word.

Normally, I’d say that English is not French, so how it’s pronounced in French is irrelevant. But there are a few other words from French with ‘oi’ that we pronounce with a /w/, so I guess I’ll concede the point.

This reminds me of one of my favorite pronunciation trivia questions, one which I came up with myself and have never seen elsewhere.

The /kw/ sound in English is usually spelled QU, however, there’s one or two words where it’s spelled KW. What English word has a /kw/ sound but does not have a Q, U, K or W anywhere in the word? Note: this is not an obscure word found only in unabridged dictionaries.

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> [@dtilque](#):
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> The /kw/ sound in English is usually spelled QU, however, there’s one or two words where it’s spelled KW. What English word has a /kw/ sound but does not have a Q, U, K or W anywhere in the word? Note: this is not an obscure word found only in unabridged dictionaries.

Choir?

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Yep, you got it.

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> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> > [@dtilque](#):
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> > The /kw/ sound in English is usually spelled QU, however, there’s one or two words where it’s spelled KW. What English word has a /kw/ sound but does not have a Q, U, K or W anywhere in the word? Note: this is not an obscure word found only in unabridged dictionaries.
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> Choir?

Nice. I thought of “coif” but I wasn’t sure whether that counted as an English word.

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**Post date:** [November 9, 2022, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/english-words-with-silent-letters/974486/40 "2022-11-09T02:36:46Z")

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> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#):
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> I thought of “coif” but I wasn’t sure whether that counted as an English word.

M-W has that word with two different pronunciations. One has a /kw/ sound, but I don’t use that pronunciation.

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