# Enlighten the newb: Who are the SDMB woo-woos who argue WELL? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 19, 2010, 7:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enlighten-the-newb-who-are-the-sdmb-woo-woos-who-argue-well/543760 "2010-06-19T07:05:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2010, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enlighten-the-newb-who-are-the-sdmb-woo-woos-who-argue-well/543760/41 "2010-06-19T20:00:06Z")
> [@Giraffe](#): > > Sure, but people call you a lot of things. Idiot, blowhard, message board failure, attention whore, loser, loudmouth, uncoordinated retard who can’t pass a basic driving test, spaz, moron, and fool, just to name a few. > > Personally, I think you’re way too dumb to be a troll. Fuck off back to your loser board, nobwipe! ---
**Author:** ![SoulFrost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f07891/32.png) [@SoulFrost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SoulFrost)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2010, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enlighten-the-newb-who-are-the-sdmb-woo-woos-who-argue-well/543760/42 "2010-06-19T20:13:29Z")
WTF is a nobwipe? ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2010, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enlighten-the-newb-who-are-the-sdmb-woo-woos-who-argue-well/543760/43 "2010-06-19T20:14:11Z")
> [@SoulFrost](#): > > WTF is a nobwipe? I think maybe he meant knobwipe? I’m not sure. ---
**Author:** ![Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Attack_from_the_3rd_dimension)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2010, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enlighten-the-newb-who-are-the-sdmb-woo-woos-who-argue-well/543760/44 "2010-06-19T20:16:08Z")
> [@ivan\_astikov](#): > > Fuck off back to your loser board, nobwipe! Ooooow, burn. Wait, I mean woo woo, burn. This woo woo thing is awesome. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2010, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enlighten-the-newb-who-are-the-sdmb-woo-woos-who-argue-well/543760/45 "2010-06-19T20:19:14Z")
> [@SoulFrost](#): > > Really? Really what? That religion is objectively disproven, or that many folks think it is? If it’s the latter, yes: check out [this GD thread.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=567645) There **Diogenes** clearly and forcefully argues that consciousness is entirely a function of the brain, and that this has been proven beyond shadow of a doubt. Therefore no ghosts, no soul, and thus no afterlife - a major cornerstone of a good many religions. ---
**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2010, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enlighten-the-newb-who-are-the-sdmb-woo-woos-who-argue-well/543760/46 "2010-06-19T20:23:08Z")
> [@Giraffe](#): > > I think maybe he meant knobwipe? I’m not sure. You know what I mean… and you know I’m right. Nobwipe. ---
**Author:** ![SoulFrost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f07891/32.png) [@SoulFrost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SoulFrost)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2010, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enlighten-the-newb-who-are-the-sdmb-woo-woos-who-argue-well/543760/47 "2010-06-19T20:38:10Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > Really what? That religion is objectively disproven, or that many folks think it is? > > If it’s the latter, yes: check out [this GD thread.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=567645) There **Diogenes** clearly and forcefully argues that consciousness is entirely a function of the brain, and that this has been proven beyond shadow of a doubt. Therefore no ghosts, no soul, and thus no afterlife - a major cornerstone of a good many religions. That the existance of God has been objectively disproven. I just wasted an hour at CNN, looking for the breaking news… 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2010, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enlighten-the-newb-who-are-the-sdmb-woo-woos-who-argue-well/543760/48 "2010-06-19T21:27:17Z")
> [@SoulFrost](#): > > That the existance of God has been objectively disproven. I just wasted an hour at CNN, looking for the breaking news… 😉 Nobody cares. God, as typically described violates a variety of physical laws, and is logically incoherent to boot; and that’s as close as to God being “objectively disproven” as you will ever get. Putting that on the news would imply that it’s new, which it isn’t. ---
**Author:** ![SoulFrost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f07891/32.png) [@SoulFrost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SoulFrost)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2010, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enlighten-the-newb-who-are-the-sdmb-woo-woos-who-argue-well/543760/49 "2010-06-19T21:42:31Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > Nobody cares. God, as typically described violates a variety of physical laws, and is logically incoherent to boot; and that’s as close as to God being “objectively disproven” as you will ever get. Putting that on the news would imply that it’s new, which it isn’t. Not quite following your “nobody cares” comment. ---
**Author:** ![straight\_man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/straight_man/32/3027_2.png) [@straight\_man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/straight_man)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2010, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enlighten-the-newb-who-are-the-sdmb-woo-woos-who-argue-well/543760/50 "2010-06-19T21:52:56Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > You probably won’t see a lot of good arguments for anything but atheism and science here because people who don’t fall in line with those beliefs wouldn’t feel comfortable here. I think it’s more accurate to say that the religious posters who hang around here for a while figure out that there won’t be any particularly constructive discussions involving religion, and thus don’t get involved in religious threads. (Hell, I stopped reading most of them years ago, and it hasn’t exactly ruined my life.) ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2010, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enlighten-the-newb-who-are-the-sdmb-woo-woos-who-argue-well/543760/51 "2010-06-19T21:59:26Z")
> [@Polycarp](#): > > Often. And quite well, usually. > > What I’m wondering is what **Cyningablot** has against Ric Flair? Hey! I’m the one that drops pro wrestling references in casual conversation around here. Stop that! \ ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2010, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enlighten-the-newb-who-are-the-sdmb-woo-woos-who-argue-well/543760/52 "2010-06-19T22:20:47Z")
> [@SoulFrost](#): > > Not quite following your “nobody cares” comment. The fact that God violates physical laws is obvious, and the irrationality and illogic of the idea are well known. Believers don’t care. Logic, reason, facts, truth don’t matter to them; they believe what they want to believe. ---
**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2010, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enlighten-the-newb-who-are-the-sdmb-woo-woos-who-argue-well/543760/53 "2010-06-19T22:22:19Z")
> [@Giraffe](#): > > I think maybe he meant knobwipe? Ah. So he means ‘sock’. ---
**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2010, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enlighten-the-newb-who-are-the-sdmb-woo-woos-who-argue-well/543760/54 "2010-06-19T22:26:45Z")
> [@Nzinga\_Seated](#): > > Ah. So he means ‘sock’. I suppose it could be a sock, but it applies to anything that can be used to remove the smegma collected beneath the foreskin. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2010, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enlighten-the-newb-who-are-the-sdmb-woo-woos-who-argue-well/543760/55 "2010-06-19T22:29:12Z")
Try soap and water. ---
**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2010, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enlighten-the-newb-who-are-the-sdmb-woo-woos-who-argue-well/543760/56 "2010-06-19T22:31:03Z")
Project much? ---
**Author:** ![kidneyfailure](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9f8e36/32.png) [@kidneyfailure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidneyfailure)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2010, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enlighten-the-newb-who-are-the-sdmb-woo-woos-who-argue-well/543760/57 "2010-06-19T22:37:03Z")
My debating skills have been described as “trainwreck”-esque in the past elsewhere on these boards. Just a heads up. ---
**Author:** ![SoulFrost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f07891/32.png) [@SoulFrost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SoulFrost)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2010, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enlighten-the-newb-who-are-the-sdmb-woo-woos-who-argue-well/543760/58 "2010-06-20T02:33:29Z")
> [@kidneyfailure](#): > > My debating skills have been described as “trainwreck”-esque in the past elsewhere on these boards. Just a heads up. Not only that, you killed the fuckin’ thread. Way to go. Woo! ---
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2010, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enlighten-the-newb-who-are-the-sdmb-woo-woos-who-argue-well/543760/59 "2010-06-20T02:40:53Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > The fact that God violates physical laws is obvious, and the irrationality and illogic of the idea are well known. Believers don’t care. Logic, reason, facts, truth don’t matter to them; they believe what they want to believe. For any random miracle story taken naively as truth, your statement is accurate. For the overall conception of a God, not necessarily conceived of as what is mocked as a “Magic Sky Pixie” here (which conception I _agree_ deserves mockery if anything about religion does), not so much. Jack Spong, for example, has gotten a lot of flack for a theology that tries to stay consonant with natural law and human psychological behavior. YMMV, of course, and I’d be quick to agree with you that much of organized religion is responsibile for a fair part of the world’s ills (as well as for some good). As we’ve discussed in the past, though, don’t be too quick to throw the Baby Jesus out with the bathwater. ---
**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2010, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/enlighten-the-newb-who-are-the-sdmb-woo-woos-who-argue-well/543760/60 "2010-06-20T02:45:43Z")
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